AMD FX-8350 for gaming?

[Eriox]

Should I get the FX-8350 8 Core Black edition for gaming? I wan't to play games like Arma 3 and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, I currently have the FX-4300 overclocked from 3.8Ghz to 4.4Ghz and run Arma 3 on like 25-30 fps and Battleground on like 30-50 fps, drops down to 10fps when bombs drop, btw grapphics card is gtx 750ti, planning to upgrade soon though, and yes i know if i get the FX-8350 it will bottleneck with the GTX 750ti

Thanks guys! <3

 

[aquielisunari]

Should I get the FX-8350 8 Core Black edition for gaming? I wan't to play games like Arma 3 and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, I currently have the FX-4300 overclocked from 3.8Ghz to 4.4Ghz and run Arma 3 on like 25-30 fps and Battleground on like 30-50 fps, drops down to 10fps when bombs drop, btw grapphics card is gtx 750ti, planning to upgrade soon though, and yes i know if i get the FX-8350 it will bottleneck with the GTX 750ti

Thanks guys! <3

Yes you should and no it won't.

For anybody else? No you should not buy any FX processor. On the AMD side of the aisle the Ryzen is a much better choice right now.

 

[Eriox]

Should I get the FX-8350 8 Core Black edition for gaming? I wan't to play games like Arma 3 and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, I currently have the FX-4300 overclocked from 3.8Ghz to 4.4Ghz and run Arma 3 on like 25-30 fps and Battleground on like 30-50 fps, drops down to 10fps when bombs drop, btw grapphics card is gtx 750ti, planning to upgrade soon though, and yes i know if i get the FX-8350 it will bottleneck with the GTX 750ti

Thanks guys! <3

Yes you should and no it won't.

For anybody else? No you should not buy any FX processor. On the AMD side of the aisle the Ryzen is a much better choice right now.

Thank you aquielisunari! how much fps do you think i'd run it those two games? because i'm pretty sure they're both CPU intensive

 

[Danilo_Italy]

Should I get the FX-8350 8 Core Black edition for gaming? I wan't to play games like Arma 3 and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, I currently have the FX-4300 overclocked from 3.8Ghz to 4.4Ghz and run Arma 3 on like 25-30 fps and Battleground on like 30-50 fps, drops down to 10fps when bombs drop, btw grapphics card is gtx 750ti, planning to upgrade soon though, and yes i know if i get the FX-8350 it will bottleneck with the GTX 750ti

Thanks guys! <3

well I have a FX 6300 and my gaming experience are pretty amazing..!!
I play even new game like the Division without any issue
sure there is always something better
but if you're on a budget the FX 8350 or FX 8370 still a pretty solid choice
oh btw I was using a intel based gaming system for 10 years
then when windows 10 show up I had to build a new system
and I choose a AM3+ socket system because it was cheaper

 

[boosted1g]

Does your motherboard even support an 8350? Many of the cheaper AMD boards dont support the 125w CPUs

 

[aquielisunari]

Should I get the FX-8350 8 Core Black edition for gaming? I wan't to play games like Arma 3 and PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, I currently have the FX-4300 overclocked from 3.8Ghz to 4.4Ghz and run Arma 3 on like 25-30 fps and Battleground on like 30-50 fps, drops down to 10fps when bombs drop, btw grapphics card is gtx 750ti, planning to upgrade soon though, and yes i know if i get the FX-8350 it will bottleneck with the GTX 750ti

Thanks guys! <3

Yes you should and no it won't.

For anybody else? No you should not buy any FX processor. On the AMD side of the aisle the Ryzen is a much better choice right now.

Thank you aquielisunari! how much fps do you think i'd run it those two games? because i'm pretty sure they're both CPU intensive

Idk. Youtube could tell you as much as I could. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlmkkilpc5o is one of hundreds of examples.

 

[aquielisunari]

Does your motherboard even support an 8350? Many of the cheaper AMD boards dont support the 125w CPUs

Good question. It takes a village(aka a community) to raise a child and answer tech. questions.

I recently answered a question regarding a PSU. http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3431687/psu-good.html By the end of the post all the focus was on the motherboard that was eventually changed.

 

[boosted1g]

Does your motherboard even support an 8350? Many of the cheaper AMD boards dont support the 125w CPUs

Good question. It takes a village(aka a community) to raise a child and answer tech. questions.

I recently answered a question regarding a PSU. http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3431687/psu-good.html By the end of the post all the focus was on the motherboard that was eventually changed.

So what motherboard do you have?

If you dont have a supporting motherboard then the cost of board + cpu for a 5 year cpu that was mediocre at release is just throwing good money away after bad. Money would be much much better spent on a new platform. Hell even a $60 pentium g4560 would be better with a 1050ti or less.

 

[Eriox]

Does your motherboard even support an 8350? Many of the cheaper AMD boards dont support the 125w CPUs

I think it does, it's the 760GMA-P34, does it support it?

 

[gonf]

most 760 motherboard doesn't support 8350. even with the one does it lack of cooling so it won't get you far.
so if you are thinking of putting a 8350 on it. make sure you don't Oc and have fan blowing air directly at the motherboard.

the FX8350 work very interesting with games. It is the last gen AMD chip which AMD think multi core is the way to go and Intel went with the hyperthreading. so in short. Intel made strong core but less core and AMD made more core but not as strong core. For the pass 10? years all game software only uses 1 to 1.5 core so nobody uses AMD cpu. but the interesting thing is that since DX12 help games use more core at once. games from like rise of the tomb raider 2015+ work much better then games like GTA5 2013 on the FX8350. so it hard to tell you if FX8350 is good for gaming caz for the games that only uses 1 to 2 cores the FX8350 will suffer even with oc help. but for some of the game that uses all cores of the FX8350. it should be alright even pair with a 1060?1070? GTX.

 

[Eriox]

most 760 motherboard doesn't support 8350. even with the one does it lack of cooling so it won't get you far.
so if you are thinking of putting a 8350 on it. make sure you don't Oc and have fan blowing air directly at the motherboard.

the FX8350 work very interesting with games. It is the last gen AMD chip which AMD think multi core is the way to go and Intel went with the hyperthreading. so in short. Intel made strong core but less core and AMD made more core but not as strong core. For the pass 10? years all game software only uses 1 to 1.5 core so nobody uses AMD cpu. but the interesting thing is that since DX12 help games use more core at once. games from like rise of the tomb raider 2015+ work much better then games like GTA5 2013 on the FX8350. so it hard to tell you if FX8350 is good for gaming caz for the games that only uses 1 to 2 cores the FX8350 will suffer even with oc help. but for some of the game that uses all cores of the FX8350. it should be alright even pair with a 1060?1070? GTX.

Thanks for your comment, I was thinking of overclocking it, but as you told me i should get a new motherboard, should i get this one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Motherboards/MSI-970-Gaming-AMD-AM3-GBE-LAN/B00LUY72F6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1496544196&sr=8-2&keywords=fx+motherboard I was thinking of upgrading to this one, and then overclocking it maybe? and yeah, i have 2 fans blowing into the pc case, then also got the Hyper x 103 cpu cooler by cooler master.

 

[bignastyid]

Don't throw any money at your current platform. Keep what you have till you can upgrade the motherboard, cpu and ram. If anything upgrading your gpu will give you a bigger gaming bump.

Your 4300 should not be bottlenecking a 750ti. If you are seeing big drops monitor your cpu frequecy given the oc you have and the very poor thermal and power design of that motherboard it could be the vrms throttling the cpu.

 

[Eriox]

Don't throw any money at your current platform. Keep what you have till you can upgrade the motherboard, cpu and ram. If anything upgrading your gpu will give you a bigger gaming bump.

Your 4300 should not be bottlenecking a 750ti. If you are seeing big drops monitor your cpu frequecy given the oc you have and the very poor thermal and power design of that motherboard it could be the vrms throttling the cpu.

What i meant was if i use the FX-8350 with the GTX 750ti it could bottleneck my GPU

 

[bignastyid]

I highly doubt you would see a difference in games going from a 4300 to an 8350 with a 750ti. Possible might even get worse with your current board if the VRMs cause the cpu to throttle to 1.4Ghz. So inorder to upgrade to the 8350 you'd need a better board. So you be looking at the price of the cpu and a decent motherboard for little to no gain in the area you are trying to improve(gaming). If any thing get a 1050ti or RX570 to replace the 750ti and save your money for an upgrade to a newer cpu platform(Intel or Ryzen).

For your current issue of FPS drops monitor your cpu frequency. Id be willing to bet that it's be caused by cpu throttling. Either from the cpu overheating or the overclock is too much for the board to handle.

 

[Eriox]

I highly doubt you would see a difference in games going from a 4300 to an 8350 with a 750ti. Possible might even get worse with your current board if the VRMs cause the cpu to throttle to 1.4Ghz. So inorder to upgrade to the 8350 you'd need a better board. So you be looking at the price of the cpu and a decent motherboard for little to no gain in the area you are trying to improve(gaming). If any thing get a 1050ti or RX570 to replace the 750ti and save your money for an upgrade to a newer cpu platform(Intel or Ryzen).

For your current issue of FPS drops monitor your cpu frequency. Id be willing to bet that it's be caused by cpu throttling. Either from the cpu overheating or the overclock is too much for the board to handle.

Nah, my CPU doesn't go over 40 degrees, i've no issues with my CPU, I just need to run CPU intensive games, i don't need a new GPU yet, i'm gonna upgrade it around this december when i move out with my team to a new house, I'm going to be streaming games, so i'm starting to upgrade my computer for the future.

 

[bignastyid]

I highly doubt you would see a difference in games going from a 4300 to an 8350 with a 750ti. Possible might even get worse with your current board if the VRMs cause the cpu to throttle to 1.4Ghz. So inorder to upgrade to the 8350 you'd need a better board. So you be looking at the price of the cpu and a decent motherboard for little to no gain in the area you are trying to improve(gaming). If any thing get a 1050ti or RX570 to replace the 750ti and save your money for an upgrade to a newer cpu platform(Intel or Ryzen).

For your current issue of FPS drops monitor your cpu frequency. Id be willing to bet that it's be caused by cpu throttling. Either from the cpu overheating or the overclock is too much for the board to handle.

Nah, my CPU doesn't go over 40 degrees, i've no issues with my CPU, I just need to run CPU intensive games, i don't need a new GPU yet, i'm gonna upgrade it around this december when i move out with my team to a new house, I'm going to be streaming games, so i'm starting to upgrade my computer for the future.

VRM throttling happens when the motherboards VRMs overheat and/or overload. With VRM throttling the CPU its self will run cool as the it's voltage and frequency drop significantly and this drop will cause massive FPS drops like what you are seeing. To detect this you need to monitor the CPUs frequency not it's temperature.

 

[Eriox]

I highly doubt you would see a difference in games going from a 4300 to an 8350 with a 750ti. Possible might even get worse with your current board if the VRMs cause the cpu to throttle to 1.4Ghz. So inorder to upgrade to the 8350 you'd need a better board. So you be looking at the price of the cpu and a decent motherboard for little to no gain in the area you are trying to improve(gaming). If any thing get a 1050ti or RX570 to replace the 750ti and save your money for an upgrade to a newer cpu platform(Intel or Ryzen).

For your current issue of FPS drops monitor your cpu frequency. Id be willing to bet that it's be caused by cpu throttling. Either from the cpu overheating or the overclock is too much for the board to handle.

Nah, my CPU doesn't go over 40 degrees, i've no issues with my CPU, I just need to run CPU intensive games, i don't need a new GPU yet, i'm gonna upgrade it around this december when i move out with my team to a new house, I'm going to be streaming games, so i'm starting to upgrade my computer for the future.

VRM throttling happens when the motherboards VRMs overheat and/or overload. With VRM throttling the CPU its self will run cool as the it's voltage and frequency drop significantly and this drop will cause massive FPS drops like what you are seeing. To detect this you need to monitor the CPUs frequency not it's temperature.

Oh, okay, i get what you mean, just watched Linus video about VRM's and yeah, i got what you mean now, and yeah, i'm going to upgrade my motherboard too then, would this be a good choice to go with the FX-8350 https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Motherboards/MSI-970-Gaming-AMD-AM3-GBE-LAN/B00LUY72F6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496602680&sr=8-3&keywords=fx+motherboard

 

[A_Goat]

If you're going to upgrade your motherboard anyway you need to be looking at ryzen boards or switch to intel.

 

[Eriox]

If you're going to upgrade your motherboard anyway you need to be looking at ryzen boards or switch to intel.

Aren't they wayyyy more expensive though?

 

[A_Goat]

If you're going to upgrade your motherboard anyway you need to be looking at ryzen boards or switch to intel.

Aren't they wayyyy more expensive though?

No.

 

[Eriox]

If you're going to upgrade your motherboard anyway you need to be looking at ryzen boards or switch to intel.

Aren't they wayyyy more expensive though?

No.

Would this be able to run PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds pretty well? https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Desktop-CPU-AM4-3-5GHz-3-7GHz/dp/B06XKVNRSM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496603357&sr=8-3&keywords=ryzen

 

[A_Goat]

Yes.

 

[bignastyid]

I highly doubt you would see a difference in games going from a 4300 to an 8350 with a 750ti. Possible might even get worse with your current board if the VRMs cause the cpu to throttle to 1.4Ghz. So inorder to upgrade to the 8350 you'd need a better board. So you be looking at the price of the cpu and a decent motherboard for little to no gain in the area you are trying to improve(gaming). If any thing get a 1050ti or RX570 to replace the 750ti and save your money for an upgrade to a newer cpu platform(Intel or Ryzen).

For your current issue of FPS drops monitor your cpu frequency. Id be willing to bet that it's be caused by cpu throttling. Either from the cpu overheating or the overclock is too much for the board to handle.

Nah, my CPU doesn't go over 40 degrees, i've no issues with my CPU, I just need to run CPU intensive games, i don't need a new GPU yet, i'm gonna upgrade it around this december when i move out with my team to a new house, I'm going to be streaming games, so i'm starting to upgrade my computer for the future.

VRM throttling happens when the motherboards VRMs overheat and/or overload. With VRM throttling the CPU its self will run cool as the it's voltage and frequency drop significantly and this drop will cause massive FPS drops like what you are seeing. To detect this you need to monitor the CPUs frequency not it's temperature.

Oh, okay, i get what you mean, just watched Linus video about VRM's and yeah, i got what you mean now, and yeah, i'm going to upgrade my motherboard too then, would this be a good choice to go with the FX-8350 https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Motherboards/MSI-970-Gaming-AMD-AM3-GBE-LAN/B00LUY72F6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496602680&sr=8-3&keywords=fx+motherboard

If you are going to upgrade the motherboard and CPU do not go with another AM3+ setup. It's a very poor investment. For gaming (especially in lower threaded games) a G4560 would be a better investment as in many games it it meet or exceed the 8350 and the G4560 has a good upgrade path unlike the 8350.

8350 plus your proposed board.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£104.70 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£78.98 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £183.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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G4560 with motherboard and DDR4
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£54.82 @ BT Shop)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£68.70 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£55.88 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £179.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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If you want to stay with AMD your options are spend more or wait for Ryzen 3
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£71.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£55.88 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £277.85
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[bignastyid]

Also if it is VRM throttling with the FX 4300 just take off the OC as your board should be ok with a stock 4300.

 

[Eriox]

I highly doubt you would see a difference in games going from a 4300 to an 8350 with a 750ti. Possible might even get worse with your current board if the VRMs cause the cpu to throttle to 1.4Ghz. So inorder to upgrade to the 8350 you'd need a better board. So you be looking at the price of the cpu and a decent motherboard for little to no gain in the area you are trying to improve(gaming). If any thing get a 1050ti or RX570 to replace the 750ti and save your money for an upgrade to a newer cpu platform(Intel or Ryzen).

For your current issue of FPS drops monitor your cpu frequency. Id be willing to bet that it's be caused by cpu throttling. Either from the cpu overheating or the overclock is too much for the board to handle.

Nah, my CPU doesn't go over 40 degrees, i've no issues with my CPU, I just need to run CPU intensive games, i don't need a new GPU yet, i'm gonna upgrade it around this december when i move out with my team to a new house, I'm going to be streaming games, so i'm starting to upgrade my computer for the future.

VRM throttling happens when the motherboards VRMs overheat and/or overload. With VRM throttling the CPU its self will run cool as the it's voltage and frequency drop significantly and this drop will cause massive FPS drops like what you are seeing. To detect this you need to monitor the CPUs frequency not it's temperature.

Oh, okay, i get what you mean, just watched Linus video about VRM's and yeah, i got what you mean now, and yeah, i'm going to upgrade my motherboard too then, would this be a good choice to go with the FX-8350 https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Motherboards/MSI-970-Gaming-AMD-AM3-GBE-LAN/B00LUY72F6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1496602680&sr=8-3&keywords=fx+motherboard

If you are going to upgrade the motherboard and CPU do not go with another AM3+ setup. It's a very poor investment. For gaming (especially in lower threaded games) a G4560 would be a better investment as in many games it it meet or exceed the 8350 and the G4560 has a good upgrade path unlike the 8350.

8350 plus your proposed board.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£104.70 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£78.98 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £183.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-04 20:13 BST+0100

G4560 with motherboard and DDR4
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£54.82 @ BT Shop)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£68.70 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£55.88 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £179.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-04 20:14 BST+0100

If you want to stay with AMD your options are spend more or wait for Ryzen 3
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£71.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston - Savage 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£55.88 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £277.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-04 20:15 BST+0100

Also if it is VRM throttling with the FX 4300 just take off the OC as your board should be ok with a stock 4300.

Thanks, which one should i go with? in your preference? and i always have this thing stuck in my head where intel pentium is very bad but the newer ones are probably good, but i don't know what to get tbh, there's so much choices, Is it possible to keep the budget like 200- 250 euro and have a very good gaming pc that can run new titles?