Question AMD or intel for AI video generation?

[universalrule]

I'm going to buy a new desktop for AI video generation. I decided the graphic card as RTX3060 12GB and the left one is CPU.
Here are the ones I'm going to pick:

1) AMD Ryzen 5 (4th gen)(Vermeer), 5600 (3.5GHz), hexa core : $747 (whole system)
2) Intel i5-12400F (2.5GHz)(Alder Lake), hexa core : $809
3) Intel i7-10700F (2.9GHz)(Comet Lake S), octa core : $897

AMD is the cheapest one and i7 is the most expensive one. I heard AMD has an issue with AI apps. So, I'm hesitating to grab it.
Which one is the best for AI video generation?

 

[Eximo]

All somewhat poor choice if you want CPU performance.

Since none of those computers have onboard graphics, is the RTX3060 included in the prices?

10700F is pretty old at this point, not a wise option for the money.
12th gen system has the potential to be upgraded to 13th or 14th gen, but OEM systems tend not to do appropriate BIOS updates to let this happen. Really depends who it is from.

Ryzen 5 5600 AM4 socket is also end of life, but there is the immediate potential to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 CPU. If these weren't pre-built, certainly something you could do to start with.

 

[geofelt]

You are trying to save dimes by going cheap with a F suffix processor.
Integrated graphics Includes quick sync video capability:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi8xlCz42CM

 

[Eximo]

Intel 8 cores + 4 e-cores, and DDR5:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 PLUS V2 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Phantom Gaming 4/D5 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Dual GeForce RTX 3060 V2 OC Edition GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1002.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-31 14:08 EST-0500

AMD 8 cores

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($180.59 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 PLUS V2 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($22.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Dual GeForce RTX 3060 V2 OC Edition GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $893.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-31 14:10 EST-0500

 

[universalrule]

All somewhat poor choice if you want CPU performance.

Since none of those computers have onboard graphics, is the RTX3060 included in the prices?

10700F is pretty old at this point, not a wise option for the money.
12th gen system has the potential to be upgraded to 13th or 14th gen, but OEM systems tend not to do appropriate BIOS updates to let this happen. Really depends who it is from.

Ryzen 5 5600 AM4 socket is also end of life, but there is the immediate potential to upgrade to a Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 CPU. If these weren't pre-built, certainly something you could do to start with.

So, what is the conclusion? I don't get the point.
The graphic card is included in the price. I have limited budget, so this is what I can pay now.

 

[Lafong]

Are you absolutely limited to those 3 choices?

You apparently can spend 897 dollars. Can you spend 950? Can you spend 1000?

If you are absolutely limited to those 3 choices, it doesn't matter what you can spend. You choose from one of those 3.

On standard benchmarks, the 12400F is 18 to 20 percent stronger than the 10700F.

The 10700F has 8 cores, compared to 6 on the 12400F.

I have NO idea if AI can take much advantage of those additional cores.

 

[universalrule]

Are you absolutely limited to those 3 choices?

You apparently can spend 897 dollars. Can you spend 950? Can you spend 1000?

If you are absolutely limited to those 3 choices, it doesn't matter what you can spend. You choose from one of those 3.

On standard benchmarks, the 12400F is 18 to 20 percent stronger than the 10700F.

The 10700F has 8 cores, compared to 6 on the 12400F.

I have NO idea if AI can take much advantage of those additional cores.

If you think so, how about $2000? I'm just looking for something within my budget.
I'll be happy if it works for AI video generation. Furthermore, I already have two laptops and this is the only reason to buy a new desktop.

 

[Eximo]

With $2000 to spend, you would be wanting to put the majority of that into the GPU. RTX 4080 / 4080 Super would be doable. If you can track down a pre-built with an RTX3090 that might be worth a look, 24GB of VRAM will help with larger AI tasks. RTX 4090 is not going to happen.

AMD 12 Core, 64GB ram, RTX4080 Super

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($391.75 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X670-P ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2035.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-01 08:50 EST-0500

Intel 8P + 12E core, 64GB ram, RTX 4080 Super

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($399.60 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-S WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2023.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-01 08:51 EST-0500

 

[geofelt]

Are you buying a used or pre-built system?
If so, a detailed list of the components may end up saving you from trouble.
For example, pre built pc's are not built for expansion with cheap minimum power supplies.

 

[universalrule]

Are you buying a used or pre-built system?
If so, a detailed list of the components may end up saving you from trouble.
For example, pre built pc's are not built for expansion with cheap minimum power supplies.

I don't wanna spend too much money for this system because I'm gonna leave this country in this year. Probably November? So, basically I need this system for around 8 months. If my laptop is good enough to handle AI video generation, I won't buy it.

Here is the spec of the pre-built system I'm gonna buy:
CPU: i5 12400F CPU
Mainboard: ASUS H610
Cooler: Intel
Ram: Essencore 16GB
Graphic Card: RTX3060 12GB MSI
SSD: Essencore KLEVV C710 NVME 256GB
Power: Babel 600W

 

[madaraosenpai]

Here is the spec of the pre-built system I'm gonna buy:
...
Graphic Card: RTX3060 12GB MSI

This should be good enough on the GPU side.
CUDA and Tensor cores are going to have a major impact on your AI generative model if the engine you're using is hardware accelerated.

As for the CPU I'd focus on whatever has the best multi-core performance, but I don't see it making a noticeable dent in output times.

 

[universalrule]

This should be good enough on the GPU side.
CUDA and Tensor cores are going to have a major impact on your AI generative model if the engine you're using is hardware accelerated.

As for the CPU I'd focus on whatever has the best multi-core performance, but I don't see it making a noticeable dent in output times.

Great! Thanks for your opinion 😉