AMD Phenom II 940 "Xtremely" Benchmarked

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look like the same thing that happened with ph1, came out
with one price intel lower the price of the comparible chips,
AMD had to do the same, while losing most of their profit.
 
Well, its no nVidia slashing, but good to see, and what everyone expected, regardless of what some are saying. High intro pricing, then reduce it. Thats what most expected here, regardless of Intel. Also, these are soon to be eol anyways, so why not sell them cheap? These chips will be around 4-6% slower clock for clock than their AM3 brothers, which will put AM3 almost on par with Yorkies, so yes, Id wait
 
yea the Intel thing could have been coincidence but i would imagine they didn't want to start dropping the price quite that fast. from reading on cuts AMD is making it sounds like this was going to happen regardless of what Intel did. if your going to do it anyways, may as well as do it when your competitor does.
 
The 940s and 920s both have a short life span. Its nothing more than an intro chip/s anyways. The real deal are the 945s and 950s. Theyll be faster, and should oc a lil better as well. AMD has said these chips have been coming since the beginning, so any early adopters should have known this, and everyone knew these were intro prices anyways. Early adopters always pay more. Think about all those that bought a 9650, and what they paid. You could have bought a 920 P2 for the difference.
 
The 940s and 920s both have a short life span. Its nothing more than an intro chip/s anyways. The real deal are the 945s and 950s. Theyll be faster, and should oc a lil better as well. AMD has said these chips have been coming since the beginning, so any early adopters should have known this, and everyone knew these were intro prices anyways. Early adopters always pay more. Think about all those that bought a 9650, and what they paid. You could have bought a 920 P2 for the difference.
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I find this a little funny now the 920 & 940 ph2 don't matter
because they fail to excite, now it's all about the 945 & 950.
 


Who's retracting? The phenom II's were priced at the right point to begin with at about $50 less than the Q9550. If Intel cut their prices then it's too be expected that AMD would have to follow suit eventually. I am a bit surprised that the Phenom II price dropped this quickly however. I would think that AMD could probably get away with pricing the 940 a little closer to the Q9550 given that the performance difference really isn't that big and the fact that the Q9550 is part of a dying platform. I probably would have tried selling them at the $250 price point, but from the standpoint of a consumer I'm certainly not going to complain about them being cheaper.
 

Went to NewEgg couldn't find the promo code 🙁 You don't happen to have the link for that by chance?
 


Everybody that is saying "AM2 Deneb is EOL, its not worth it".

And speaking of a dying platform...youre trying to justify buying a P2 940 against a Q9550 due to a dying platform? AM2 is set to be replaced in weeks.

Not buying this stuff anymore. If its not one line of defense its another, one getting more inane than the last. First these chips were overhyped by 8 out of 10 posters, then after launch it was toned down to "slightly slower than Q9400, as expected", and now its "these 925 and 940 chips are EOL, they dont matter anyways its AM3 945 that matters". Give me a break. Im not anywhere near a fanboi of ANY company hell I wanted P2 to kill the Q9000's so I could have a reason to jump ship, but it didnt happen and wont happen. Maybe in 2010.

No disrespect to anybody, everybody here has an opinion and im not trying to underhand that. But this thread is 18 pages long, 16 pages of it are bunk. I mean 98% of the hype on these chips was behind some LN2 overclocking. Really? That means everything, because you know everybody just happens to have a steady supply of liquid nitrogen in their rooms for their pcs.
 
Everybody that is saying "AM2 Deneb is EOL, its not worth it".


And speaking of a dying platform...youre trying to justify buying a P2 940 against a Q9550 due to a dying platform? AM2 is set to be replaced in weeks.


Not buying this stuff anymore. If its not one line of defense its another, one getting more inane than the last. First these chips were overhyped by 8 out of 10 posters, then after launch it was toned down to "slightly slower than Q9400, as expected", and now its "these 925 and 940 chips are EOL, they dont matter anyways its AM3 945 that matters". Give me a break. Im not anywhere near a fanboi of ANY company hell I wanted P2 to kill the Q9000's so I could have a reason to jump ship, but it didnt happen and wont happen. Maybe in 2010.


No disrespect to anybody, everybody here has an opinion and im not trying to underhand that. But this thread is 18 pages long, 16 pages of it are bunk. I mean 98% of the hype on these chips was behind some LN2 overclocking. Really? That means everything, because you know everybody just happens to have a steady supply of liquid nitrogen in their rooms for their pcs.
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I couldn't say it any better, you hit on every point that
that was hyped.
So the hype has begin already about AM3 , you think
these people would have learned not to sing the AMD
nonsense song after being burned twice.
 


Personally I still think that the PhII 920 and 940 are pretty darn good processors and haven't once suggested that they "aren't worth it". On the contrary I've stated numerous times that they are priced where they should be. As for the comment on the dying platform, I would point out that future AM3 processors will be supported by AM2+ motherboards while no future Intel processors will be supported by LGA775. If you're just upgrading an existing system that won't mean diddly, but if you are building a new system it's worth considering your upgrade path.

As for the AM3 Phenom II's, I'm honestly not expecting them to be much faster given that AMD's processors have historically shown to be fairly indifferent to memory speed. I suspect that there will be a few tweaks performed on the new processors, probably akin to what you would expect for a new stepping and they will likely perform slightly better as a result. I wouldn't expect anything too significant however.
 


You state this like it's a fact. Do you have anything to back this up or is this just what you expect to see?
 


yeah, i'd like to see some details on why you arrived to this conclusion
 


Viable for people already with am2 systems, Yes, But for enthusiasts and overclockers yorkfield is better in every way.
 
AMDZone: 3.7GHz
Neoseeker: 3.8GHz (1.65V)
Club OC: 3.7GHz (1.575V)
OC Club: 3.8GHz (1.55V)
Bjorn3d: 3.7GHz
Anandtech: 3.9GHz
Tech Report: 3.5GHz
HardOCP: 3.8GHz (1.65V and water cooling)
FiringSquad: 3.75GHz
HightechLegion: 3.5GHz
Hardware Canucks: 3.75GHz (air)
Hardware Canucks: 4.0GHz (Phase Change)
Hardware Canucks: couldn’t get the system stable with LN2
Lost Circuits: 3.8GHz (but only with room temp at -10 degree F (LOL), 3.5GHz otherwise)
Hexus: 3.73GHz
Legit Reviews: 3.8GHz
Guru 3D: 3.8GHz
Hot Hardware: 3.8GHz
Bit-Tech: 3.5GHz
Extreme Tech: 3.5GHz
Xbit: 3.8GHz
Matbe: 3.8GHz
Golem: 3.6GHz
MadboxPC: 3.8GHz
OCWorkbench: 3.8GHz

They are review samples, Retail overclock avg is 3.6 according to the retail deneb thread on xs, yorkfield has higher ipc and overclocks better, If you can prove otherwise I am not closed minded.
 
Deneb and Yorkfield stack up pretty similarly if you ask me. the upgrade path seems evident. If you have an AM2 boards get the Deneb, If you have the 775 board get the Yorkie. They both seem to have a similar average overclock (don't ask me about the LN2 runs because that doesn't represent...anything).
If i had to build from the ground up, I HAVE to look at available boards and grab what has the features I want. Future proofing is going to be the same regardless of the tripe. Either would get you by for another couple of years or further if you don't really make your computer do any heavy lifting so to speak.
 
Its not just the memory thats being changed on the AM3s. Do your homework and find out for yourself why theyll be faster. Im sure a few here know why, and Im NOT talking about the DDR3, which will help in a few ways.
Excuse me for thinking Intel releases new cpus all the time, and therefor, since they do, all their previous ones are garbage? Or, if you liked one of them, then the new ones made that one garbage or useless? Why have differing views between the 2 companies? Doesnt AMD have to release something? Dont they also have to have DDR3 cpus? Since the last fiasco of DDR to DDR2, and nothing was seen in performance, and even slightly less in some cases, Im sure they want to make a difference this time around, and they have.
As Just_An_Engineer said, theyre all compatable, unlike Intels new vs old, so whats the difference, as long as AMD is releasing some chips. Also, to me its better timing, as the pricing on the ram will be cheaper as well, and also its supports their current customers without the whole new system debacle alot of Intel users are facing, and from the looks sounds and pricing, they arent doing it.
Stick with 775, and stay with yorkies, as the newer AM3's will edge so close to them, it wont really matter, and therell be higher ocing and clocks as well from AMD. Whats wrong with looking at these 2 companies as being competitive?
 
@ gallag
Did you read Anands review? The review chips were a different rev, and higher clocks have been seen, and as far as 3.6 being average, well go on AMDs oc thread there and say that. That and 3.5 is the LOWEST oc Ive seen there.
 
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