AMD Phenom II 940 "Xtremely" Benchmarked

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Sorry, Jay, but I wasn't "arguing", but rather trying to fill some curiosity. The guy posted this a little ago:

Well JDJ if it about the 1 thing you do which is (games) my only ?
to you would be, why do you have a phenom 1 at the time when
you bought it, kentsfield was the best at what you do games.
So wouldn't be considered a fanboi move, you clearly didn't by
the best for what you do.
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I got surprised, actually, because I haven't read any evidence of that in none of your posts (although some guys have become "picky" with any of your comments about AMD), so, I didn't understand why he said that and thought I had probably missed the post where you stated this.

Well, if you had one, I'd ask for some tests, since I'm very interested, but, since you also asked the guy who has one to do some testing, I supposed Jed was a little off of his way.

Band preference is quite like you said, but, as you also understand, it is healthy just until a certain point. Some people thought I was willing to do anything to say PII would be better, and now AM3, just like what's happening with you, and that adds to the fact I use an X2, although I have openly stated I usually like the Intel brand.

Surprisingly, though, this "preference" has been shifting towards the other side, as of lately, however, I always spend knowing what I'm buying, outside of the "pleasure box" of having either stickers.
 


The biggest issue with AMD chips was the chipset driving them...

Almost all if not all Nvidia chipsets have been buggy one way or another.., or ran very hot..

ATI before the merger chipsets were not as good as Nvidia's or anyone else for that matter.

Thats why I prefer to integrate Intel as their chipsets are more reliable.. ATI's latest chipsets seem probable but their reliability hasnt been proven yet imho as theyre quite new considering the more mature ones from Intel...
 


Almost all AM2+ MBs gonna be AM3 capable with BIOS update, because AM3 CPUs will feature DDR2 AND DDR3 memory controllers. This will allow AM3 CPUs to fit in older MBs with AM2+ sockets, but you still have to use DDR2 🙁
 


I tend to agree. After all, the switch from socket 939 to AM2 yielded all of maybe 1% increase in performance. There are tons of rumors floating around out there that the AM3 chips will be fast (I've seen some that say by as much as 5%), but I question what those numbers are based on. I do expect that the AM3 chips will in fact be slightly faster, but it will most likely be due to some small tweaks to the processor akin to what is done for a new stepping and not due to the use of DDR3 exclusively.
 
I agree, as Ive said, DDR3 in itself will yield only .7% or so, it is the other tweaks thatll push up AM3s perf. From what Im reading and seeing, youll get 200Mhz or so on a oc and 200 more on the HTL, plus whatever else theyve done.

Funny thing is, trichannel doesnt really help DT, and since everyone now is finally on a IMC, faster ram doesnt have near the benefits it used to, tho I have read faster ram will have benefits once we go 8 cores on up, if we have the SW that can actually use it that is
 


Yep. Back in DDR days and even lower speed DDR2, faster memory showed a world of difference. Now pretty much anything past DDR2-800/1066 is miniscule/worthless unless you get your rocks off on benchmarks.
 
The main (probably half of that 5%) gain of the AM3 chips is that the Northbridge speed will be up to 2GHz (which is where it should have been). However, I've see plenty of reports of higher NB OC's than that with 940's, so I think the only real change is that those settings will now be stock. Also, the lower TDP comes probably from dropping the voltage down to where it should be (as most PII's appear to be overvolted at stock. On a side note though, mine doesn't seem to want to undervolt at all. Not sure if that is the Mobo (BIOS) or chip, but I'll have to play around with it more. Once I get some serious games soon (E:TW) then maybe I'll be more interested in OCing again. We'll see.)
 
Some initial benchmarks of AM3 by Gigabyte and Tom's:

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.tw%2F958%2Cnews-958.html%23xtor%3DRSS-1825&sl=auto&tl=en

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3DMARK, Everest and some other stuff are on the linked page.
 
What I'm wondering is if there will be any 880G motherboards supporting just DDR2 this summer or fall? Then again, that might delay the adoption of DDR3.

Wouldn't buy anything but a Gigabyte or ASUS anyways. Magic Pro sounds like one of the PC Chips brands. Stay away from those.
 


An 880G chipset with ddr 2 makes so much sense... But then again when did sense come in to things..

Upgrading to a AM3 means new chip, new board, new ram... and the ram at little speed increase over ddr2.. but then again this will push ddr3 prices down further...so there might be some light at the end of a very long tunnel...

pah
 
Anybody considering an AMD CPU upgrade or a new system may want to hurry up, since they are possibly going to be harder to find: AMD Letting Production Slip Below Demand

If in the next few months you have a problem finding an AMD processor to buy, there's a reason.

AMD lowered its manufacturing rates during the fourth quarter, in part to reduce its inventories in response to flat or down market demand, Rob Rivet, AMD's chief financial officer, told investors in AMD's fourth-quarter conference call Thursday afternoon.

"We're slowing everything down quite a bit," Rivet said.

Neither Rivet nor AMD's president and chief executive Dirk Meyer indicated whether or not such manufacturing cutbacks would be across the board, or just in particular segments. Meyer alluded to a "severe industry correction in the IT supply chain, especially in notebooks," and both executives indicated that supply and demand were out of whack in the notebook segment.
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I did notice an inventory reduction writeoff in AMDs Q4 report. If the P2s become more unavailable, then I'd guess AMD is having trouble ramping them up. Presumably the older 65nm CPUs would be ramped down first, since they are likely less profitable than the newer 45nm ones. Anyway, looks like Q1 is shaping up to be another loss for AMD, and maybe Intel's first loss in quite some time.
 


Much better for mainstream users... if there can be a mutant 790GX Chinese Mobo, there can be mutant DDR2 880G mobos, probably up to the mobo maker tho...
 
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