AMD Piledriver rumours ... and expert conjecture

[Reynod]

We have had several requests for a sticky on AMD's yet to be released Piledriver architecture ... so here it is.

I want to make a few things clear though.

Post a question relevant to the topic, or information about the topic, or it will be deleted.

Post any negative personal comments about another user ... and they will be deleted.

Post flame baiting comments about the blue, red and green team and they will be deleted.

Enjoy ...

 

[gamerk316]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Vishera-Bulldozer-Piledriver-FX-Series,17844.html

Pricing is exactly where I expected: Top CPU slotted at $250.

 

[-Fran-]

It's a very good price point IMO.

It's a tad better than Zambezi (Zamby? lol) and it replaces it fully in all segments. Let's hope the power is a tad lower as well. There were some parts that didn't really need the 125W ceiling at all (according to what I have read on forums, including Toms) and run very cool as well.

I wonder about Intel though... Will they bother lowering the i5 2/3xxxK price point a little to compete at lunch time?

Man... I love these periods before lunch, hahaha.

Cheers!

 

[sarinaide]

Man... I love these periods before lunch, hahaha.Cheers!

I love the period before lunch time also. 😀

 

[gamerk316]

Personally, I like lunch myself, but not the period before. The anticipation kills me.

 

[-Fran-]

Well, it could be the masochist in me talking, but the part were the rumors and leaks start making you wonder what will it be at the end, is very cool.

When the initial reviews start popping up in the interwebz or late night leaks from sites that "made a mistake" and then take it out, hahaha.

Cheers!

 

[Ags1]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Vishera-Bulldozer-Piledriver-FX-Series,17844.html

Pricing is exactly where I expected: Top CPU slotted at $250.

I'm expecting a performance jump of 10+% compared to BD (simply because BD was so poor), and I am also expecting the pricing to come down at least 30% from these introductory prices.

 

[gamerk316]

^^ Prices will drop a few months after release to the exact prices BD occupies now, regardless of performance.

Understand, there IS no competition on price; every CPU is slotted for a specific price region, regardless of overall performance. No different then any other industry, where the big players avoid price wars at all costs (bad for everyones profits).

 

[Ags1]

If the pricing drops to BD levels I would consider a PD build, but not at the inflated launch prices.

 

[obsama1]

$250 is too much. $200 is the way to go.

 

[noob2222]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Vishera-Bulldozer-Piledriver-FX-Series,17844.html

Pricing is exactly where I expected: Top CPU slotted at $250.

And yet another parrot for BLT pre-order bs. thats NOT AMD's price, thats the price gouging website that now has visited every single tech site.

like I said earlier, thats some massive free advertising.

 

[esrever]

$250 doesn't seem like a bad launch price. Better than the launch price of bulldozer.

 

[jimmysmitty]

And yet another parrot for BLT pre-order bs. thats NOT AMD's price, thats the price gouging website that now has visited every single tech site.

like I said earlier, thats some massive free advertising.

Tell me about it. At work our distributors nearly doubled the price of BD CPUs on launch so we had to wait a few months to start stocking them. Its insane.

$250 doesn't seem like a bad launch price. Better than the launch price of bulldozer.

No it doesn't. But does the performance stack up? As well what kind of price gouging will we see on launch?

 

[davemaster84]

$250 is Ok for the release price, it should get near $ 200 a little bit after.

 

[truegenius]

my guesstimation 😗
8350 may perform 20-25% better than 8150 on stock clocks with heavily threaded tests

 

[jimmysmitty]

$250 is Ok for the release price, it should get near $ 200 a little bit after.

Depends. If it performs, AMD might not. The HD7970 hasn't seen nearly as many price cuts as the HD7950 and lower.

my guesstimation 😗
8350 may perform 20-25% better than 8150 on stock clocks with heavily threaded tests

Thats a pretty big jump. Then again it is 3.6GHz vs 4GHz (and Turbo). But thats only 11%.

Still hard to say. We have had nothing from AMD and it looks like Intel is setting its sights on Qualcomm. Goodfor AMD, bad for Qualcomm.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

aaaand on single thread loads ?

5%

 

[viosteaua98]

when piledrivers will be avaible to buy?

 

[esrever]

http://www.techpowerup.com/172735/First-Socket-FM2-APUs-Spotted-in-Russian-Store.html

Ahead of their October 1 launch, upcoming second-generation AMD A-Series APUs are beginning to surface on retailers. Russian online store Regard.ru listed most of these chips, albeit in their OEM (chip-only) packaging. According to the prices at hand, the quad-core A10-5800K and A10-5700 are listed for 4,130 RUB (US $132.6). The A8-5600K and A8-5500 quad-core APUs go for 3,540 RUB (US $114). The cheapest of the lot, dual-core A4-5300 is priced at 1,940 RUB (US $62.2)

 

[viridiancrystal]

^^ Why? That didn't work so well last time...

Again, I'm expecting about an 8% nominal performance increase over BD. I'm sure some here will cherry-pick a single bench that shows a 20% increase, but I expect a <10% nominal performance gain.

All I expect is higher clocks and MAYBE 3-5% per-clock performance. They just tighten up existing archeh

aaaand on single thread loads ?

5%

There is so much hope in the air. *sarcasm*

Still, not sure how Piledriver is going to be worse than Trinity. I just don't believe that AMD would put all the time into making the cores for trinity than just scrapping it and going with a higher clocked Bulldozer.

 

[the3holepuncher]

It could also be the opposite. I've been trying to find ANYTHING from AMD on it, and they've been so tight lipped it seems. Of course, this is the first launch where I'm actually hoping to be an "early adopter"(read: doing my first self-build), so I don't know if that's normal or not.

I'm kind of hoping that they've been pushing it back repeatedly because they've been fine-tuning and producing, and that when it actually hits the shelves, it'll be $200(then I'm still within budget for a 660ti instead of be forced to go standard 660, though either should be fine), and completely sandbagged in performance.

Not saying it's going to be an Ivy killer, but an Ivy competitor would be nice. Let Steam Roller be the killer

 

[Dangi]

At at least some news, APUs 2 october as stated before AND FX 23 october

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012092501_AMD_A-Series_to_launch_on_October_2_FX-Series_on_October_23.html

 

[de5_Roy]

"AMD Releases CodeXL Public Beta
OpenCL coders rejoice!"
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/25/amd-releases-codexl-public-beta/

 

[mayankleoboy1]

OpenCL coders on AMD devices, rejoice! AFAIK, opencl based on AMD hardware does not run on nvidia cards.

 

[-Fran-]

OpenCL coders on AMD devices, rejoice! AFAIK, opencl based on AMD hardware does not run on nvidia cards.

Funny that OpenGL for nVidia cards doesn't work on AMD cards either (glitches at best), haha.

Now... According to Phoronix, AMD actually implements OpenCL and OpenGL according to spec and it can work on either hardware, but nVidia likes to "fine tune" off-spec (since OGL doens't specify to great detail) and it doesn't even work on Intel based solutions.

If history on this serves us right, then I'd say nVidia is not making OCL coded for AMD work on their drivers and not the way you put it, my friend.

Anyway, looks like I'll be able to grab an FX 8350 at launch day, yay!

Cheers!

 

[mayankleoboy1]

i meant that code written for each vendor wont run on the others hardware. Programs that use opencl , ship with a different library of the same code for each vendor type.