AMD Piledriver rumours ... and expert conjecture

[Reynod]

We have had several requests for a sticky on AMD's yet to be released Piledriver architecture ... so here it is.

I want to make a few things clear though.

Post a question relevant to the topic, or information about the topic, or it will be deleted.

Post any negative personal comments about another user ... and they will be deleted.

Post flame baiting comments about the blue, red and green team and they will be deleted.

Enjoy ...

 

[noob2222]

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/amd-piledriver-cpu-pre-order-pricing-leaks-out/
piledriver prices

that lone guy thats posting those pre-orders, man is he getting some website hits for that.

Hey look - someone jacked up some pre-order pricing, lets link it to every tech website on the internet.

I don't think there is one yet that hasn't parroted the stupid BLT website. Same thing happened when they "pre-order" for bulldozer, selling the 8150 at $300.

but you know what, sheer genius, look at the free marketing hes getting.

 

[truegenius]

AMD Piledriver rumours ... and expert conjecture
here is your salt 😉

 

[noob2222]

a little off topic, but gotta love the title of the article itself.

http://gizmodo.com/5325539/apples-chickenshit-approval-process-has-gone-too-far

 

[dattimr]

There seems to be a legit leak at Xtremesystems:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276245-AMD-quot-Piledriver-quot-refresh-of-Zambezi-info-speculations-test-fans&p=5138329&viewfull=1#post5138329

People shouldn't bother with Cinebench at this point -- R11.5 supposedly doesn't use all of the available extensions from Bulldozer.

In V-Ray, however, the FX-8350 scores ~17% better than FX-8150 and ~6% better than 2600K, with all of them running at 4.5 GHz.

 

[dattimr]

Good find - thanks.

A couple things I noted - both the core and uncore clocks were held at 2.4GHz for all the CPU generations. So the improvements in the front ends of SB and IB to keep the pipes filled at their native or oc frequencies go for naught when underclocked like that. Would have liked to see the same tests done at 3.0 GHz, assuming Nehalem's uncore could be clocked higher or those of SB/IB downclocked to match.

Also, since IB is just a tick of SB, it's really 2 generations of CPU architecture, maybe 2.1 generations if ya wanna get exact 😛..

Finally, if it had been AMD marketing doing the graphics, they wouldda chopped each graph off at either the 100% mark or maybe the 120% mark, to make the differences seem a lot bigger than reality 😀..

By now, it is an old reply, but yes, it is more like 2.1 generations. Good catch, and my bad. 😉

 

[de5_Roy]

GlobalFoundries Announces 14XM, Can this Process Get AMD Back into the Game?
http://vr-zone.com/articles/globalfoundries-announces-14xm-can-this-process-get-amd-back-into-the-game-/17238.html
....see ya in 2014-15, amd? until then..... 😗

 

[fazers_on_stun]

Calling it steamy makes it sounds like poopoo.

Or vaporware 😀..

Actually I like "Steamy" although I'm sure it'll be "SR" before too long - posters are lazy here on THG 😛..

 

[obsama1]

It sounds weird when you shorten a product's name and end it in -y, in my opinion. I prefer SR to Steamy.

 

[truegenius]

@fazer
yup u r right, many [strike]o[/strike]p on thg are lazzy n will end up with sr 😗

 

[fazers_on_stun]

It sounds weird when you shorten a product's name and end it in -y, in my opinion. I prefer SR to Steamy.

Heh, you mean like "Sandybridge" to "Sandy", or "Ivybridge" to "Ivy" 😀.

So there's precedent. But I'd agree most people will eventually just type "sr" and everybody will know what they mean..

 

[obsama1]

I stick to abbreviations usually. Ex. SB, BD, IB, PII, etc.

Steamy is just a very odd name for a CPU, LOL.

 

[fazers_on_stun]

@fazer
yup u r right, many [strike]o[/strike]p on thg are lazzy n will end up with sr 😗

You mean "ur rite, thg peeps b lzy n say sr" 😀

 

[fazers_on_stun]

I stick to abbreviations usually. Ex. SB, BD, IB, PII, etc.

Steamy is just a very odd name for a CPU, LOL.

Well if you look at the next release, Excavator, and apply the same principles we'd have Steamy --> Sex 😀

Hmm, hope my wife doesn't see this post 😛..

 

[-Fran-]

Well, aside from bad names abbreviations, it looks like AMD leaked the 23rd of October to be the official lunch date for PD.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20120921231354_AMD_Sets_the_FX_Vishera_Launch_Date.html

Cheers!

 

[anxiousinfusion]

Steamroller sounds good to me. I don't know why everyone has to shorten it. )) Also thinking about building a home server rig with the FX 8350 whenever that comes out. Right now I'm running a Pentium D and it's almost good enough for the job.

 

[truegenius]

^to save key strokes and thus ultimately save energy, food, processing resources, network traffic, money, man power

wow thats huge for a small change or it is........ 😗

You mean "ur rite, thg peeps b lzy n say sr" 😀

ri8 😀

 

[Chad Boga]

GlobalFoundries Announces 14XM, Can this Process Get AMD Back into the Game?
http://vr-zone.com/articles/globalfoundries-announces-14xm-can-this-process-get-amd-back-into-the-game-/17238.html
....see ya in 2014-15, amd? until then..... 😗

It doesn't look like AMD believes them

Just look at AMD's public roadmaps. They are building their CPUs on 28nm next year, and no longer hoping on some pipe dream that GF will be ready with their 20nm promises, let alone the laughable 14nm targets that will not just pull in the process node by a year, but implement tri-gates on top of it.

 

[viridiancrystal]

It doesn't look like AMD believes them

Just look at AMD's public roadmaps. They are building their CPUs on 28nm next year, and no longer hoping on some pipe dream that GF will be ready with their 20nm promises, let alone the laughable 14nm targets that will not just pull in the process node by a year, but implement tri-gates on top of it.

Considering how long it takes Intel to get a new node good enough for production, I doubt GF will get 20nm on time, never mind 14nm.

 

[esrever]

If steamroller = steamy
then Piledriver = Piley?
excavator = exy?

 

[cgner]

If steamroller = steamy
then Piledriver = Piley?
excavator = exy?

LMAOOOOO

 

[noob2222]

GlobalFoundries Announces 14XM, Can this Process Get AMD Back into the Game?
http://vr-zone.com/articles/globalfoundries-announces-14xm-can-this-process-get-amd-back-into-the-game-/17238.html
....see ya in 2014-15, amd? until then..... 😗

will definately shut up the intel fanbase saying all other fabs are 3+ years behind if they complete on schedule.

 

[jdwii]

will definately shut up the intel fanbase saying all other fabs are 3+ years behind if they complete on schedule.

Look at their 32nm process believe me they just want their stock to go up.

 

[-Fran-]

Well, even if the stock goes up because of that "announcement", it will drop dead once they don't deliver, so it could be a cause of a law suit if they lie so blatantly.

Besides, for all we know, Intel could just be taking it slow since they have no "serious competition" whatsoever in the manufacturing business for complex chips.

If they can deliver, then let's cheer them on, since it would make it fun and better for all of us 😛

Anyway, Steamy sounds... Well... Good, haha. It gives it a refreshing air to acronyms for CPUs 😛

Cheers!

 

[de5_Roy]

will definately shut up the intel fanbase saying all other fabs are 3+ years behind if they complete on schedule.

i have repeatedly blamed glofo for bd and llano. also said that glofo is very much behind intel in terms of fabrication. if they do deliver 14nm-xm on time and cpus/apus have good yields on it...it'd be awesome. it still won't be "real" 14nm for glofo....
right now, though, i'd bet on samsung. and amd + samsung combo when common platform alliance becomes effective.
@codename typing: already shortened to SR, PD, ivb, sb and so on... may shorten excavator 'exv' when time comes... 2lzy2typ... *yawn*
amd should deliver product as "big sounding" as their codenames. 😗

 

[Chad Boga]

will definately shut up the intel fanbase saying all other fabs are 3+ years behind if they complete on schedule.

Whilst you are hiding behind another silly "if", you should cast your mind back to 2007 when IBM(as Tech Leader for their Fab Alliance) said they were just as far along with HKMG as Intel was.

They were just as far ahead in producing Powerpoint slides, but unfortunately they were 4+ years behind on the commercial reality.

History gonna repeat here? Looks very likely IMHO.