AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB Review

[elbert]

AMD should try making a 585 with GDDR5+ fastest memory speed. From tests I've seen a 50Mhz memory overclock performance gain about as much as the 50Mhz gpu overclock.

 

[Martell1977]

https://www.techpowerup.com/232498/radeon-rx-480-cards-can-successfully-be-flashed-to-rx-580?cp=2

However, it's strongly recommended that anyone with the 6-pin 480 should not do this. The 580 wants more than the 6-pin is rated for. But a 480 can be flashed to be a 580 otherwise.

I'd love to see Tom;s do this and see if they really are the same performance.

 

[elw]

I dont get it , for sure AMD could release this card as the original RX 480 long ago , why did they allow Nvidia GTX 1060 to steal the RX 480 share ?

Very Stupid Strategy ... I now alot of people who bought GTX 1060 and wished AMD were better Just to take advantage of the cheaper Freesync Monitors.

AMD you lost millions of buyers !!! for nothing !!!

well I got RX 480 nitro +, one that has been clocked at 1342 boost. Got it something like 2 months after release and needed to play with voltage and power limit (undervoltage it and raise power limit) to squeeze max performance without overclocking. And I still think it was great buy(maybe MSI would be better buy due silent fans, but was clocked much lower). So in my opinion they certainly made me buy this card at that time, it was beast for 1080p and even after 8 months of having it, it is still a beast for my 1080p freesync monitor. So no they didn't loose my money. And I kinda don't care about others what they did with their money, as long my PC works great for less money.

 

[Matt_217]

Almost the entire review just kept complaining about the new name to a similar prior card. What about an actual comparison to it's closest nVidia counterpart? That's all I was looking for. Totally absent. I can learn more in the comment section than in the "review".

 

[renz496]

Almost the entire review just kept complaining about the new name to a similar prior card. What about an actual comparison to it's closest nVidia counterpart? That's all I was looking for. Totally absent. I can learn more in the comment section than in the "review".

several nvidia cards are included in the test including GTX1060 which RX580 directly compete with. what do you mean by "totally absent"?

 

[SaviolaSeyren]

I don't know what to say, I've seen on Youtube that someone play Hitman on Very High/Ultra settings with GTX 1060 3gb but he got over 60fps there

 

[FormatC]

FPS values without any frametimes or variances is pure nonsense in this case.

 

[psiboy]

@ Math Geek. I have an RX480 8GB Running happily at 1400Mhz/2150Mhz GPU/Memory. Without even touching the voltage. Sorry to say you are INCORRECT!

 

[psiboy]

a win for AMD ? it is TOOO LAATE .. ALL are waiting for the VEGA now... TOO LAATE ...

Vega is Targeting 4k Gamers, 480/580 is targeting 1080 and 1440. I Game at 1080 so I have no intention of buying a Vega as nice as it would be it's going to be pricier. Same reasons I won't buy a 1080 ti I don't game at 4k and it way too pricey for my budget! So No it's not too late for vega as most people aren't spending on HIGH end cards the majority of the market buys mid range and below so it was a smart move by AMD as they have taken back market share from Nvidia as per other news on Tom's Hardware.. Please think through before you post pointless crap like this.

 

[psiboy]

no, you'll get the 480 numbers with a 480. the tested card was already oc'ed and you won't get any better manually. the changes made to the 580 can't be done to the 480.

want the extra few fps, then you'll want to get a 580.

@ Math Geek. I have an RX480 8GB Running happily at 1400Mhz/2150Mhz GPU/Memory. Without even touching the voltage. So I have more headroom if I can be bothered pushing the voltage and tweaking some more. Sorry to say you are INCORRECT!

 

[genz]

It's awful 220Watts for a mid range card whereas the 1060 consumes 120W there's a 100W difference this is not 50 as many say. Again I still don't know if I should buy this one or the 1060 DAMN! i'm exhausted of reading reviews and forums I need to make up my mind.

In my experience of buying both red and blue that's max tdp not even max power draw and is a ballpark figure. Either way my recommendation is always the same, get the card with the most RAM. Believe me that doesn't sound smart, but in 3 years when your 2Gb card can't play GTA6 without stutters, my 4GB card will still have an extra year or two in my GPU to be able to save. Especially in the modern day when both sides have OP as hell shader engines but make you pay gold for RAM. Nvidia seem to be least balanced as far as RAM-Pixel Power. This usually gives AMD the long term advantage as far as how long the card will be useful.

 

[renz496]

It's awful 220Watts for a mid range card whereas the 1060 consumes 120W there's a 100W difference this is not 50 as many say. Again I still don't know if I should buy this one or the 1060 DAMN! i'm exhausted of reading reviews and forums I need to make up my mind.

In my experience of buying both red and blue that's max tdp not even max power draw and is a ballpark figure. Either way my recommendation is always the same, get the card with the most RAM. Believe me that doesn't sound smart, but in 3 years when your 2Gb card can't play GTA6 without stutters, my 4GB card will still have an extra year or two in my GPU to be able to save. Especially in the modern day when both sides have OP as hell shader engines but make you pay gold for RAM. Nvidia seem to be least balanced as far as RAM-Pixel Power. This usually gives AMD the long term advantage as far as how long the card will be useful.

except that is not max TDP for the card. that is how much the card going to pull in average gaming session.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/images/power_average.png

 

[psiboy]

@ Igor Wallossek "Prior to RX 580, the 1060 would have led RX 480 by more than 7% at 1920x1080, so this latest round of Ellesmere-based cards serves to close some gap between GCN and Pascal left in DX11 apps and open up more of an advantage in a growing list of DirectX 11 games."

I think you meant that last bit to be "DirectX 12 games."

 

[Jorge Nascimento]

My RX 480 sapphire Nitro + OC 8GB ran at 1364 MHZ so last year was the highest factory clocked RX 480. Now i have reflashed it to RX 580 @ 1411 MHZ. Last year with RX480 firmware i was already rekting most of the GTX 1060 6gb, now the distance is even greater, and when DX12 is involved, GTX 1060 looks like a low end GPU. And you all know that 1 after release Nvidia stops optimizing the drivers for that model, and when the newer model that will replace the 1060 comes out, the gimping will start.
Friend of mine with R9 390 is still seeing major improves with new drivers and an awesome performance increase on DX12 thanks to the hardware supported async compute that is a major win on dx12.

 

[renz496]

And you all know that 1 after release Nvidia stops optimizing the drivers for that model, and when the newer model that will replace the 1060 comes out, the gimping will start.

then explain what happen with outlast 2 where 780ti beat AMD Fury X. people should stop talking about this gimping stuff if they did not really understand what actually happen to kepler.

Friend of mine with R9 390 is still seeing major improves with new drivers and an awesome performance increase on DX12 thanks to the hardware supported async compute that is a major win on dx12.

AMD did not always win in DX12. i still remember when Forza Horizon 3 first comes out as DX12 exclusive title the game was running about equal for GTX1060 and RX480. but when the test move to previous gen card many have thought that AMD will dominate nvidia maxwell because nvidia maxwell can't do async compute like AMD GCN. turns out that the 390 was behind 970 performance quite significantly.

 

[Jorge Nascimento]

And you all know that 1 after release Nvidia stops optimizing the drivers for that model, and when the newer model that will replace the 1060 comes out, the gimping will start.

then explain what happen with outlast 2 where 780ti beat AMD Fury X. people should stop talking about this gimping stuff if they did not really understand what actually happen to kepler.

Friend of mine with R9 390 is still seeing major improves with new drivers and an awesome performance increase on DX12 thanks to the hardware supported async compute that is a major win on dx12.

AMD did not always win in DX12. i still remember when Forza Horizon 3 first comes out as DX12 exclusive title the game was running about equal for GTX1060 and RX480. but when the test move to previous gen card many have thought that AMD will dominate nvidia maxwell because nvidia maxwell can't do async compute like AMD GCN. turns out that the 390 was behind 970 performance quite significantly.

Old games from years ago.
Did you know every 18 months computer power doubles!
2 years in pc years is a long time.
Talking about present date. Rx 480 and rx 580 is giving Gtx 1060 a run for their money. Same values or under 3% difference and crushing in dx12. R9 as seen an increase in performance from the most recent drivers Nvidia cards from the same period 0 increase in performance. And let's talk today not 2 or 3 years ago. That's like decades in computer age.

 

[renz496]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

 

[Jorge Nascimento]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

 

[renz496]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

did you actually check the result numbers or just go with what other people said? then let me give you one example:
this is coming from 1060 launch review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/17.html

at launch reference GTX1060 performance is 74.7FPS. RX480 is 67.2 (1080p)

and this is coming from february this year:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/18.html

now reference GTX1060 (the blue bar) is 100.6 FPS. RX480 at 88.8FPS.

we saw performance increase for AMD card but so did on nvidia card. if there is no performance increase for 1060 then in february this year RX480 should already beat GTX1060 in GTA V handily.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Old games from years ago.
Did you know every 18 months computer power doubles!
2 years in pc years is a long time.
Talking about present date. Rx 480 and rx 580 is giving Gtx 1060 a run for their money. Same values or under 3% difference and crushing in dx12. R9 as seen an increase in performance from the most recent drivers Nvidia cards from the same period 0 increase in performance. And let's talk today not 2 or 3 years ago. That's like decades in computer age.

Not anymore, and its looking unlikely going forward. The law has been broken.

 

[Jorge Nascimento]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

did you actually check the result numbers or just go with what other people said? then let me give you one example:
this is coming from 1060 launch review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/17.html

at launch reference GTX1060 performance is 74.7FPS. RX480 is 67.2 (1080p)

and this is coming from february this year:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/18.html

now reference GTX1060 (the blue bar) is 100.6 FPS. RX480 at 88.8FPS.

we saw performance increase for AMD card but so did on nvidia card. if there is no performance increase for 1060 then in february this year RX480 should already beat GTX1060 in GTA V handily.

So GTA V is the only game on the market Kappa.....
Were is the RX 580? only see RX 480 with same or under 5 fps margin. RX 580 more efficient and much better with a worked firmware. Why there is no RX 580? with a RX 480 giving same or under 5 fps results and better on dx12 you just proved my point, RX 580 beats easily GTX 1060.
BTW the RX 480 review there is not sapphire version as it is the highest factory OC version on the market. You can not compare the GTX 1060 MSI gaming with a standard AMD rx 480, if you doing compares you need to do it with the highest OC version of AMD just like they did with GTX 1060, because the founders edition of GTX 1060 get rekt by the AMD stock cooler version of RX 480.
So if you use your brain and adjust to this little fact i just mentioned you will RX 480 from sapphire (highest oc version just like MSI) beat GTX 1060 since since except GTA V i see many equal results on under 5 fps differences.
Every single person was born with the same brain, everyone is capable of critical mass thinking, but not everyone likes to do it, they just follow the sheep because its easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo

Take this link and enjoy factory no custom OC versions both RX 480 and GTX 1060 since from what i see evga gets higher overclocked compared to MSI.
And DX12, RX 480 clearly wins vs any version of GTX 1060.
https://youtu.be/gEw3CaNSbUo?t=7m40s
check the links above the exact moment you see the chart that is all over the internet. REKT BOY!

 

[Jorge Nascimento]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

did you actually check the result numbers or just go with what other people said? then let me give you one example:
this is coming from 1060 launch review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/17.html

at launch reference GTX1060 performance is 74.7FPS. RX480 is 67.2 (1080p)

and this is coming from february this year:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/18.html

now reference GTX1060 (the blue bar) is 100.6 FPS. RX480 at 88.8FPS.

we saw performance increase for AMD card but so did on nvidia card. if there is no performance increase for 1060 then in february this year RX480 should already beat GTX1060 in GTA V handily.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review-23.html

 

[renz496]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

did you actually check the result numbers or just go with what other people said? then let me give you one example:
this is coming from 1060 launch review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/17.html

at launch reference GTX1060 performance is 74.7FPS. RX480 is 67.2 (1080p)

and this is coming from february this year:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/18.html

now reference GTX1060 (the blue bar) is 100.6 FPS. RX480 at 88.8FPS.

we saw performance increase for AMD card but so did on nvidia card. if there is no performance increase for 1060 then in february this year RX480 should already beat GTX1060 in GTA V handily.

So GTA V is the only game on the market Kappa.....
Were is the RX 580? only see RX 480 with same or under 5 fps margin. RX 580 more efficient and much better with a worked firmware. Why there is no RX 580? with a RX 480 giving same or under 5 fps results and better on dx12 you just proved my point, RX 580 beats easily GTX 1060.
BTW the RX 480 review there is not sapphire version as it is the highest factory OC version on the market. You can not compare the GTX 1060 MSI gaming with a standard AMD rx 480, if you doing compares you need to do it with the highest OC version of AMD just like they did with GTX 1060, because the founders edition of GTX 1060 get rekt by the AMD stock cooler version of RX 480.
So if you use your brain and adjust to this little fact i just mentioned you will RX 480 from sapphire (highest oc version just like MSI) beat GTX 1060 since since except GTA V i see many equal results on under 5 fps differences.
Every single person was born with the same brain, everyone is capable of critical mass thinking, but not everyone likes to do it, they just follow the sheep because its easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo

Take this link and enjoy factory no custom OC versions both RX 480 and GTX 1060 since from what i see evga gets higher overclocked compared to MSI.
And DX12, RX 480 clearly wins vs any version of GTX 1060.
https://youtu.be/gEw3CaNSbUo?t=7m40s
check the links above the exact moment you see the chart that is all over the internet. REKT BOY!

i just give you one example. do i need to list every game that TPU have tested here? there is no meaning for me to rewrite the review from TPU here. surely it is not that hard for you to look at the individual performance yourself. also the issue here is not about which card are winning. don't bring this into fanboy war. i said GTX1060 also received performance improvement just like RX480 and not like what you claim that there is no performance improvement for GTX1060 over the course of it's existence. it seems you keep tracking the performance improvement for RX480 but refuse to acknowledge that GTX1060 also getting faster over time.

Tom's Hardware did review the original Titan X pascal (even without sample from nvidia) and when TH look at some of the numbers during 1080ti review there is several performance improvement even for GTX980Ti (which according to you should no longer receive optimization and being purposely gimp to sell pascal based card). granted there is no 1060 being tested since it was review for high end card but even maxwell receive performance improvement so it is impossible for 1060 not improving at all. you can look the numbers for Doom (in Vulkan) for 980ti below.

titan x pascal review (august 2016): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-titan-x-12gb,4700-4.html
1080ti review (march 2017): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti,4972-3.html

 

[Jorge Nascimento]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

did you actually check the result numbers or just go with what other people said? then let me give you one example:
this is coming from 1060 launch review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/17.html

at launch reference GTX1060 performance is 74.7FPS. RX480 is 67.2 (1080p)

and this is coming from february this year:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/18.html

now reference GTX1060 (the blue bar) is 100.6 FPS. RX480 at 88.8FPS.

we saw performance increase for AMD card but so did on nvidia card. if there is no performance increase for 1060 then in february this year RX480 should already beat GTX1060 in GTA V handily.

So GTA V is the only game on the market Kappa.....
Were is the RX 580? only see RX 480 with same or under 5 fps margin. RX 580 more efficient and much better with a worked firmware. Why there is no RX 580? with a RX 480 giving same or under 5 fps results and better on dx12 you just proved my point, RX 580 beats easily GTX 1060.
BTW the RX 480 review there is not sapphire version as it is the highest factory OC version on the market. You can not compare the GTX 1060 MSI gaming with a standard AMD rx 480, if you doing compares you need to do it with the highest OC version of AMD just like they did with GTX 1060, because the founders edition of GTX 1060 get rekt by the AMD stock cooler version of RX 480.
So if you use your brain and adjust to this little fact i just mentioned you will RX 480 from sapphire (highest oc version just like MSI) beat GTX 1060 since since except GTA V i see many equal results on under 5 fps differences.
Every single person was born with the same brain, everyone is capable of critical mass thinking, but not everyone likes to do it, they just follow the sheep because its easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo

Take this link and enjoy factory no custom OC versions both RX 480 and GTX 1060 since from what i see evga gets higher overclocked compared to MSI.
And DX12, RX 480 clearly wins vs any version of GTX 1060.
https://youtu.be/gEw3CaNSbUo?t=7m40s
check the links above the exact moment you see the chart that is all over the internet. REKT BOY!

i just give you one example. do i need to list every game that TPU have tested here? there is no meaning for me to rewrite the review from TPU here. surely it is not that hard for you to look at the individual performance yourself. also the issue here is not about which card are winning. don't bring this into fanboy war. i said GTX1060 also received performance improvement just like RX480 and not like what you claim that there is no performance improvement for GTX1060 over the course of it's existence. it seems you keep tracking the performance improvement for RX480 but refuse to acknowledge that GTX1060 also getting faster over time.

Tom's Hardware did review the original Titan X pascal (even without sample from nvidia) and when TH look at some of the numbers during 1080ti review there is several performance improvement even for GTX980Ti (which according to you should no longer receive optimization and being purposely gimp to sell pascal based card). granted there is no 1060 being tested since it was review for high end card but even maxwell receive performance improvement so it is impossible for 1060 not improving at all. you can look the numbers for Doom (in Vulkan) for 980ti below.

titan x pascal review (august 2016): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-titan-x-12gb,4700-4.html
1080ti review (march 2017): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti,4972-3.html

Typical out of arguments moves to 1080ti an titan. Just awesome nvidiots. Vega gaming is coming... Too compare titan and Ti to Vega we are talking budget cards sub 300

 

[renz496]

Old games from years ago.

nope. outlast 2 was just released in last april.

i have been monitoring the situation between RX480 and GTX1060. true RX480 gain more performance with new updates but that also true for GTX1060. you can check techpowerup RX480 and GTX1060 launch review and compare the numbers with new review that include both RX480 and GTX1060 on every game tested. we see increase with AMD card vs nvidia kepler when more games get optimized for AMD hardware because of majority of console hardware are using AMD hardware. but the changes nvidia made to maxwell already address that issue. in a few months volta will be coming out. so far i haven't seen maxwell being gimped yet vs pascal.

Well rx 580 8gb is the same graphic with a worked firmware. My rx 480 8gb is now working on rx 580 8gb @ 1411 scores 6640 in superposition uniengine. Gtx 980ti scores 6384 in dx11 benchmark. Gtx 1060 lost 4% to rx 480 8gb drivers on December 2016. Rx 480 8gb won 8% performance on December drivers. April 2017 rx 480 8gb increased in about 4% more. 0 improves for Gtx 1060 on the lastest drivers. This information is on the Internet just use Google

did you actually check the result numbers or just go with what other people said? then let me give you one example:
this is coming from 1060 launch review:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/17.html

at launch reference GTX1060 performance is 74.7FPS. RX480 is 67.2 (1080p)

and this is coming from february this year:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/18.html

now reference GTX1060 (the blue bar) is 100.6 FPS. RX480 at 88.8FPS.

we saw performance increase for AMD card but so did on nvidia card. if there is no performance increase for 1060 then in february this year RX480 should already beat GTX1060 in GTA V handily.

So GTA V is the only game on the market Kappa.....
Were is the RX 580? only see RX 480 with same or under 5 fps margin. RX 580 more efficient and much better with a worked firmware. Why there is no RX 580? with a RX 480 giving same or under 5 fps results and better on dx12 you just proved my point, RX 580 beats easily GTX 1060.
BTW the RX 480 review there is not sapphire version as it is the highest factory OC version on the market. You can not compare the GTX 1060 MSI gaming with a standard AMD rx 480, if you doing compares you need to do it with the highest OC version of AMD just like they did with GTX 1060, because the founders edition of GTX 1060 get rekt by the AMD stock cooler version of RX 480.
So if you use your brain and adjust to this little fact i just mentioned you will RX 480 from sapphire (highest oc version just like MSI) beat GTX 1060 since since except GTA V i see many equal results on under 5 fps differences.
Every single person was born with the same brain, everyone is capable of critical mass thinking, but not everyone likes to do it, they just follow the sheep because its easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo

Take this link and enjoy factory no custom OC versions both RX 480 and GTX 1060 since from what i see evga gets higher overclocked compared to MSI.
And DX12, RX 480 clearly wins vs any version of GTX 1060.
https://youtu.be/gEw3CaNSbUo?t=7m40s
check the links above the exact moment you see the chart that is all over the internet. REKT BOY!

i just give you one example. do i need to list every game that TPU have tested here? there is no meaning for me to rewrite the review from TPU here. surely it is not that hard for you to look at the individual performance yourself. also the issue here is not about which card are winning. don't bring this into fanboy war. i said GTX1060 also received performance improvement just like RX480 and not like what you claim that there is no performance improvement for GTX1060 over the course of it's existence. it seems you keep tracking the performance improvement for RX480 but refuse to acknowledge that GTX1060 also getting faster over time.

Tom's Hardware did review the original Titan X pascal (even without sample from nvidia) and when TH look at some of the numbers during 1080ti review there is several performance improvement even for GTX980Ti (which according to you should no longer receive optimization and being purposely gimp to sell pascal based card). granted there is no 1060 being tested since it was review for high end card but even maxwell receive performance improvement so it is impossible for 1060 not improving at all. you can look the numbers for Doom (in Vulkan) for 980ti below.

titan x pascal review (august 2016): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-titan-x-12gb,4700-4.html
1080ti review (march 2017): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti,4972-3.html

Typical out of arguments moves to 1080ti an titan. Just awesome nvidiots. Vega gaming is coming... Too compare titan and Ti to Vega we are talking budget cards sub 300

uh huh. just the typical that calling other people as fanboi when you can't have the same view as them. i just said there is improvement with nvidia cards even if the said test does not include GTX1060 in them. and never did i mentioned Vega in all my respond to you. obviously you don't even try to understand what being presented in front of you and just cherry picking what what you want to be your truth. so long. there is no use try to make proper discussion with people like this.