News AMD Radeon RX 9070 series prices leak on Micro Center — starting at nearly $700 for XT versions

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JamesJones44 said:
All high demand products have this issue. The Switch 2 will be the same problem. Just be patient and wait a few months and there will be supply at retail pricing.
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Nope. The problem is the tariffs will take effect shortly on all chips. 25% and higher. You aren't going to find anything for "MSRP" shortly. Well, that is assuming you live in the US. If you live elsewhere, you are probably good.
 
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The chip in 9070/XT, the Navi 48, is a 357mm² to 390mm² on TSMC N4
The 5070Ti/5080 uses the GB203, which is 378mm² on TSMC 4N (not a typo)

If the 9070XT can barely compete with a 5070Ti, which is the cut down version, you can see how AMD would be in a pickle.
I don't think Navi 48 is massively cheaper to produce than GB203.
 
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txfeinbergs said:
Nope. The problem is the tariffs will take effect shortly on all chips. 25% and higher. You aren't going to find anything for "MSRP" shortly. Well, that is assuming you live in the US. If you live elsewhere, you are probably good.
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The US import tariffs appear to have already begun. HP was selling their flagship Omen 45L just last week with a 5090 for $4800. That same system is now $5800.
 
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Amdlova said:
700usd for a XT ? No thanks

Will buy a 5070 or 5070 ti instead
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Tech review benchmarks aren't out yet, but call it as you want. Plus, I don't see any 5070 Ti's available AT ANY PRICE below $1,000, i.e. either buying scalped or lucky to get one at or up to $240 above MSRP on day zero or on a waitlist.

Does anyone really think the 5070 situation will be any better?
 
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DS426 said:
Tech review benchmarks aren't out yet, but call it as you want. Plus, I don't see any 5070 Ti's available AT ANY PRICE below $1,000, i.e. either buying scalped or lucky to get one at or up to $240 above MSRP on day zero or on a waitlist.

Does anyone really think the 5070 situation will be any better?
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Nope, the prices will be just as insane for the 5070 as they are the 5070ti. 50 series is another skip it generation.
 
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Can wait... People want to buy day one, need to pay the price.
Do you really belive that amd gpu will sell at 700? Will have same scalpers price. 1000 1100usd. Still using the uhd 770 + rx570 with lossless scale can push 2560x1440 30 fps on these new games.

I can wait :)
 
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Syntaximus said:
Leave it to AMD to botch the pricing again. Greedy morons.
Just wait until they slash the prices due to poor sales, that's the move.
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Great analysis. 😒

nVidia has set the stage. If 5070 Ti is still almost impossible to find when 9070 (XT) launch, AMD will move these cards at these prices. It's not what we wanted to see, but it's also not final/official, so probably not worth letting our tempers flare, lol. That said, yes, they've left room for prices to come down when sales slow in a few months. They do the same thing on new Ryzen generation releases.

Not sure if anyone noticed but 7900 XT and XTX are hard to find now and prices shot way up, so, kinda thinking a lot of folks are not keeping up with the current market trends and context of these GPU launches.
 
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Amdlova said:
Can wait... People want to buy day one, need to pay the price.
Do you really belive that amd gpu will sell at 700? Will have same scalpers price. 1000 1100usd. Still using the uhd 770 + rx570 with lossless scale can push 2560x1440 30 fps on these new games.

I can wait :)
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If 9070 XT performs similar to 5070 Ti, yes, I do, but that's the limit; $750 will be the tough sell IMO, even though $50 doesn't sound like much. Scalpers can't scalp as successfully on AMD as they can on nVidia.

We also don't know if tariff pricing is already applied to these [simulated] numbers; surely, it is?

I'm not worried about it either as it would be a lateral upgrade for me, not a true upgrade. Then, I have one more generation to skip and finally pounce on what's after that.
 
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DS426 said:
Great analysis. 😒

nVidia has set the stage. If 5070 Ti is still almost impossible to find when 9070 (XT) launch, AMD will move these cards at these prices. It's not what we wanted to see, but it's also not final/official, so probably not worth letting our tempers flare, lol. That said, yes, they've left room for prices to come down when sales slow in a few months. They do the same thing on new Ryzen generation releases.

Not sure if anyone noticed but 7900 XT and XTX are hard to find now and prices shot way up, so, kinda thinking a lot of folks are not keeping up with the current market trends and context of these GPU launches.
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There's one elephant in the room though: why has nVidia not released more of the 5070ti cards? It could be another 3060 12GB situation, where they held up inventory to wait for AMD to release their 6700 siblings. They've done it before and, looking at how they delayed ever so slightly their 5070 release window, it makes me think they're being cautious, which, to nVidia's credit, they've never taken AMD for granted. I've never seen nVidia pulling their punches, even when seemingly on the ground (they've been in similar disavanteagous positions before) and coming out on top.

Now, where am I going with this? As I said: the un-accounted variable for "where the hell is the rest of the 5070ti stock???". Yes, tinfoil hat ish, but I'm sure nVidia is just waiting to AMD to what AMD does all the time: misread the room. I'm 100% sure nVidia can increase the stock anytime they want, as the yield and parts for the 5070 siblings are not hard to come by, if my initial look-around was to be believed.

If there's a time for AMD to actually surprise us, it is now. The 9070XT cannot go over $600 in my view. Even if the demand outstrips the offering, AMD needs to eat this small "loss" over putting cards on people's hands. They have to stop thinking short term with their Radeon division.

Regards.
 
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Amdlova said:
700usd for a XT ? No thanks

Will buy a 5070 or 5070 ti instead
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It all comes down to price and performance. AMD will need to match the 5070 Ti and beat it by at least $50 in pricing to have a reasonable chance IMO. Otherwise, a lot of gamers will buy Nvidia for the significantly expanded feature set (DLSS / DLSS4 specifically). If AMD can beat the 5070 Ti, it could have a viable card at $699. As for the 9070, it would have to be a lot closer to the 9070 XT to warrant a $649 price tag, and even then that's too close really. It would be better to have a $150 gap between the cards, at a minimum, to cater to different price brackets.
 
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txfeinbergs said:
Nope. The problem is the tariffs will take effect shortly on all chips. 25% and higher. You aren't going to find anything for "MSRP" shortly. Well, that is assuming you live in the US. If you live elsewhere, you are probably good.
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MSRP will be adjusted for tariffs. Customers are not going to get a line item on their bill that says "tariffs" nor do retails collect it.
 
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