AMD Thorton

[basmic]

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Well we have heard a lot about this, today HEXUS got some exclusive shots of this new CPU. Basically it is a Barton but with 1/2 the L2 cache - 256 instead of 512KB we have not heard anything from AMD in regards to this CPU.

The Thorton is an AMD Athlon XP part it does not replace the AMD Duron.

There are three speed grades 2000+, 2200+ and 2400+ which only replace the Thoroughbred core parts of the same model number.

The reason for the product is that its still a volume part as customers are selling many systems with VIA KM266 chipsets and that it does not make sense to still make Thoroughbred part at that lower FSB of 266 MHz, so we just modified the Barton core, to the specification of the value end of the Thoroughbred core products.

So the parts have 256k cache and 266 MHz FSB.

The boards which are validated for it are over here, this is ideal as an upgrade CPU for your older boxes.

The new parts are:

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ (266 FSB) Model 10 w/ 256K Cache
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ (266 FSB) Model 10 w/ 256K Cache
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ (266 FSB) Model 10 w/ 256K Cache

<font color=orange><b> I guess THG is a drug in it's own way, and potentially harmfull! </b></font color=orange>

 

[eden]

Well it might be an excellent thing for us old mobo users who can't access high FSB CPUs even with BIOS flashes. Also the lower price for being value may really help.

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[sabbath1]

Damn PR rating! 😛

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[juin]

It totaly got no sense to do that from a deskto ppoint of view but maybe a very good CPU if it can run at 1.3 V for blade server and with mass production from desktop they will have a P3 1.4GHZ killer still a good selling chip in server.It will be a banias low cost competitor.

Unless i have miss something in the way

I dont like french test

 

[eden]

To say that a Thorton could run at 1.3V when clearly it is exactly as a Tbred which needs 1.5V of juice minimum, means that we're not on the same page at all and there's a loss of logic here.

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[slvr_phoenix]

Actually, there is <i>great</i> logic there. The logic just happens to be from a business sense, not an end-user sense. Heh heh.

Right now AMD's production is tied up with TBreds, Bartons, A64s/Opterons<font color=green>*</font color=green>. They only have so much FAB space to produce these you know. So instead of wasting that FAB space to produce TBreds AND Bartons, they can just produce Bartons and disable half of Barton's cache, making it identical in performance to a TBred. Thus they can take the FAB space that used to be for the TBreds and use it to increase the production of A64s/Opterons, and all without harming the price or performance of the AXP line. Sure it would mean less low-end chips produced in a day compared to what they're doing now, but then demand should be increasing for the mid-to-high end chips and decreasing for these low-end chips anyway, so the decreased production should still be enough to supply the demand.

It will also allow them to use some of the chips that fail as Bartons to be recycled as Thortons, thereby allowing AMD to make money on chips that in the past would have just been tossed into the trash.

<font color=green>*</font color=green> = I'm assuming that AMD has done the smart thing and made A64s and Opterons in such a way that you can use the same process to make both and you then just disable/blow out components to turn an Opteron into an A64 in a manner similar to how Intel makes Celerons.)

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[juin]

There process should have increase.Speaking of Madison 1.4 GHZ and 1.3 GHZ use 1.3V

I dont like french test

 

[eden]

That doesn't answer my question at all!

How can a new chip, Barton hybrid, that runs with half the cache as a Tbred, run with less voltage than a Tbred B would need?

Even with refined processes, a decrease of more than 0.2V is simply not that often attainable, and I wouldn't imagine AMD is a miracle worker here. P4s have so far been able to only reach 1.45V I believe.

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[juin]

Even if they dont reach 1.3 a 1.4 still be good for blade server

I dont like french test