AMD X2 A Failure, Multitasking, Others

[Makaveli]

Why don't u just give up, your just making yourself look stupid, which you already did at the start of the post. lol you guys keep feeding this troll. I wish a mod would close this thread already, its pointless talking to this guy. I think a brick wall is more intelligent than u!

 

[Porkster]

A valid point still exists, that of AMD refusing to do the tasks given equally or fair to the specified priority level assigned!

Thomas has already stated, that the AMD refuses to do the divx thread properly. How much more evidence do you require? Open your eyes to the facts.

I don't want to hear excuses about OS differences. The fact is AMD X2 is not giving enough priority to a thread, and that is a DESIGN FLAW !!!

Try building a brick home without cement, and say it's ok. That's the analogy of the AMD X2 doing multitasking.

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[dunklegend]

I think that porkster is just spacedonkey with a new username, nobody can be this stupid.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one thath will go wrong first will be the one that will do the most possible damage

 

[Makaveli]

Listen u highschool dropout, As has been stated 50 millions time in this Troll post u started. The cpu is not reponsible for Thread priority the OS is. Open your EYES, and the only design flaw here is U!

 

[dunklegend]

Do you like 2 Pac? your username was one of his alias.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one thath will go wrong first will be the one that will do the most possible damage

 

[liquidpaper007]

Porkster you remind me of this guy in my networking class. Always thinks he's right, but he never is. He learned after a while to be quiet. I hope you do.

 

[RichPLS]

The difference being Porkster would be rather tasty after his roasting!

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[Makaveli]

yes, was and still is one of my favourite rap artist. its to bad hip hop is no longer as good as it use to be. Its peak was the mid 90's to late. Now its just flooded with alot of crap.

 

[Porkster]

As has been stated 50 millions time in this Troll post u started. The cpu is not reponsible for Thread priority the OS is.

And I don't totally believe that statement... I'm aware the OS does a part job but the CPU reads the data from the Instruction pointer/s and then does its job on those instructions it reads from memory. Both systems are getting the same software code, (slight difference with virtual and physical threads use). The only difference is the CPU is not allowing enough data to come through, due to its lack to prioritise the thread or to share that software thread with another.

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[dunklegend]

Westside!

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one thath will go wrong first will be the one that will do the most possible damage

 

[NT78stonewobble]

Porkster I might altso have the newbie sign but atleast I'm reading what other people with more knowledge here are saying and understanding.

Why beat this horse anymore?

PS: Arent you the guy from anandtech with the "Wheres the BTX form factor and pci express. I hate amd." post?

PPS: BTX is what a few silly degrees cooler? And its the bandaid on the raging thermal output of the prescot?

 

[Porkster]

Please stay on topic please.

It seems the AMD is getting all the modes that it likes, so lets hope this round Intel wins the grunt test again.

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[Porkster]

PS: Arent you the guy from anandtech with the "Wheres the BTX form factor and pci express. I hate amd." post?

Yes as when I wanted to upgrade I found most shops weren't aware of latest technology as they were being held back by the AMD market.

AMD is keeping the technology out of the hands of the user/customer by not keeping up with Intel. AMD have been slow to BTX, DDR2, PCIe, the list goes on and on and on...

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[BePe86]

WTF are you talking about? Again? If there's a winner of the first round, it has to be AMD... no reboots, won 3/4 performence tests, while the Intel one fried at least two motherboards.

But then again, AMD has already lost, due to it's failure at designing a proper dual-core processor. Just listen to porkster, he knows his stuff.

 

[NT78stonewobble]

So Intel kept 64 bit out of the desktop users hands -> Itanium???

AMD introduced 64 bit to the desktop.

Intel introduced rambus (failure) and later leaving out the people who bought them.

Intel introduces ddr2 requiring people to upgrade their memory for often less performance (unless uve got slow ass ddr or use about a 1066 fsb on intel).

PCIe is overrated in a homeuse environment. Unless you use a pcie gigabit card (mostly found onboard nowadays) or a raid card you wont have much use for it.

And how many sockets have intel used in the last few years?

 

[RichPLS]

Rambus was not a failure, it offered the most performance at the time, for a price.
DDR2 is where AMD is going as well as PCI-e.

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[dunklegend]

Was I writing to you? NO. Then STFU!
Fanboi!

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one thath will go wrong first will be the one that will do the most possible damage

 

[SpaceDonkey]

I have a Dell Dimension XPS Gen 5 prerelease. It used to have a 840EE, now it has a 3.73 EE (dont ask why). Do you think my CPU has a serious design flaw too ? I think it does too, because I tried to mimic Toms test, and Gordian knot is like iddle all the time too. I'm hoping to get a 840EE again when its available in the shops.

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I am severly limited in what my mind can perceive.

 

[NT78stonewobble]

Rambus was a failure in the sence that it did not become widespread.

Yes ddr2 seems to be the way forward but please notice that amd is in no rush to move to ddr2. It is no performance grail but will eventually with development yied benefits.

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[NT78stonewobble]

rambus slash rdram...

Or where do I get a system based on that now??? I havent seen em much :/

Even Intel doesnt mention it much...

 

[Vapor]

Look at the PS3...full of rambus's XDR RAM.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[NT78stonewobble]

Saw some of the ps3 keynote the other day...

But I was referring to the original rdram and pc's.

Is rambus trying to push xdr to pc? (havent read up on em).

Im not against new and radical but im not upgrading for the sake of upgrading. (include here 64 bit, HT and dual core).

 

[Vapor]

RDRAM based PCs are tough to find now as they don't have an advantage over DDR any longer (and certainly not DDR2).

XDR should be seen in graphics cards within 2 generations, IIRC.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.

 

[P4Man]

>Rambus was a failure, but RDRAM wasn't.

Neither of them where failures technically. Rambus has some nifty IP (although it abused its IP portfolio by going for royalties on even SDRAM and ordinarey DDR) but it was Intel that failed.. three fold:
1) The 820/840 chipset was horrible. Truly a disasterous memory controller design that didn't do RDRAM any justice. 850 was only barely better. Even VIA should have been able to develop a faster rambus MC than that.
2) they paired it with slow poke FSB on the P3, negating any bandwith advantage RDRAM had to offer. They seem to keep repeating that error over and over btw.
3) Timing was terrible; they completely messed up the economics by forcing it into the market prematurely which made RDRAM prices totally unrealistic. By the time RDRAM yields got reasonable levels, prices where more or less in the same ballpark, the entire world had moved to DDR.

This is classical example of how not to introduce new technology, but the technology itself was sound, and still is (its used in Alpha servers if you didn't know).

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[Makaveli]

Everything you post, just shows your favouritism towards intel. PCIe has been slow to market, because there is minimal if any performance difference from AGP 8x with current Technology. DDR2 also hasn't been needed by AMD cause Athlons have a on die memory controller, which needs lower latency, that DDR2 in it current form does not provide. Why would they switch to it for it to hurt the performance of their product. As for BTX a Joke. Intels way of trying to combat the Heatout of Prescott, which should have been corrected when they designed it to begin with. A BTX case will drop your CPU temp what 2-5c if your lucky, a bandaid solution for a wound that needs surgery.

You are obviously pro intel, so when your shopping for a computer you were looking at intels products, which has all these great technologies you speak of, how would AMD be holding u back. if you weren't looking to get a AMD product to begin with.

I feel like reaching thru the screen and rigging your neck, but instead I pity you. There are probably other aspects of your life, that caused u to be the way you are now. Listen to common sense man. Or are you trying to tell me you are right and everyone in this forum is wrong. If you truly believe this your are in some serious denial, and need therapy!