AMD's FX-62 wipes the floor with Intel's Conroe!!!

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err..didnt read the 4 pages of post jus tread the first post this isnt about the FX-62 owning intel

im dissapointed : false advertising!!!
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Funny how everybody is quick to start insulting me but I show proof that Conroe is a hack and they still deny it, tisk tisk.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
I repeat, how exactly is one man's opinion absolute proof of it being "rigged." No need to post the link over and over, it's in your sig too....
 
My hat is off to you 3M!

When I read the anatech article and saw the bios not seeing the fx-60, I knew that there might be something fishy, also the fact the enhanced ATI drivers for both systems again...fishy!
Fishy in the sence that Intel with its " benchmarketing" and bullying...( skype deal )
But to say that Intel didn't know is absurd! Thats like saying "oop's I made a processor that worked right"

In any light Intel and AMD "fanboys" must say that this a shady move on Intels part!

Again Mike my hat is off to you :wink:
 
Not sure if that's an insult, but

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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No insult at all. You put out alot of good useful information. I am suprised, that so many of the Intel Fanboys are so uninformed on how computers actually work.

I had read Rahul Sood's blog earlier. Made alot of sense. I have put CPUs in boxes, where I didnt have the latest bios without the proper microcode fixes for newer CPUs. They almost never run to their capability, if they even run at all. So his blog shows there is a high potential to producing invalid benchmark results from the AMD side.

And using a customized ATI driver, on the AMD machine, is just wrong. So that brings into question, were they using some optimized for Intel version of windows too? That brings back memories of multiple exes for different CPU optimizations. It doesn't make a fair comparison between platforms, when one has it, and the other doesn't.

Noone can prove outright, the benchmarks were false. But there is a lot of evidence, that they cannot be taken as gospel. And a lot says that it was not a valid comparison. I just wish we had more info concerning their server comparisons. It does look like Intel did let people play with their rigs too much, because enough info was gathered to show that the testing was not on the level.

Maybe Intel does plan to make improvements to Conroe, to back up the performance gains they are showing. But I am not gonna hold my breath. And I am not gonna build another system, that I cant upgrade steadily over a 2 year period.

On the server standpoint, AMD has a big thing in their Socket F, if it is going to support even quad cores, when they come out. Companies dont like to replace servers yearly. Its nice to have options to upgrade.
 
err..didnt read the 4 pages of post jus tread the first post this isnt about the FX-62 owning intel

im dissapointed : false advertising!!!
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Funny how everybody is quick to start insulting me but I show proof that Conroe is a hack and they still deny it, tisk tisk.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
I repeat, how exactly is one man's opinion absolute proof of it being "rigged." No need to post the link over and over, it's in your sig too....

I won't insult you, but those are not opinions sir, those are facts.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
err..didnt read the 4 pages of post jus tread the first post this isnt about the FX-62 owning intel

im dissapointed : false advertising!!!
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Funny how everybody is quick to start insulting me but I show proof that Conroe is a hack and they still deny it, tisk tisk.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
I repeat, how exactly is one man's opinion absolute proof of it being "rigged." No need to post the link over and over, it's in your sig too....

I won't insult you, but those are not opinions sir, those are facts.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
Thank you for being polite, I respect that. :).
In my opinion 🙂D), that cannnot be considered facts, however, we can just disagree on this, OK?
 
err..didnt read the 4 pages of post jus tread the first post this isnt about the FX-62 owning intel

im dissapointed : false advertising!!!
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Funny how everybody is quick to start insulting me but I show proof that Conroe is a hack and they still deny it, tisk tisk.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
I repeat, how exactly is one man's opinion absolute proof of it being "rigged." No need to post the link over and over, it's in your sig too....

I won't insult you, but those are not opinions sir, those are facts.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
Thank you for being polite, I respect that. :).
In my opinion 🙂D), that cannnot be considered facts, however, we can just disagree on this, OK?

Since you are not an Intel Troll or somebody blabbing crap, I respect your opinion and will agree to disagree on this :).

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
everyone should stfu until multiple sites run benchmarks then u may flame the losing party k?

right now u guys are arging like panzys

no its stupid
no you're stupid
no you're stupid
troll
ass
man whore
fat ass


who gives a..

wait til a more benchmarks come out then u may make fun of mike and if mike is right he gets all rights to make fun of u

so, danm sit tight
 
everyone should stfu until multiple sites run benchmarks then u may flame the losing party k?

right now u guys are arging like panzys

no its stupid
no you're stupid
no you're stupid
troll
ass
man whore
fat ass


who gives a..

wait til a more benchmarkls come out then u may make fun od mike and if mike ir right he gets all rights to make fun of u

so, danm sit tight
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That's about the best opinion I've seen all day. :twisted:
 
I personally could care less which is better. Them fighting for the performance "crown" only leads to dropping prices and ends out better for us in the end anyhow.

I will go with whatever parts have the best price/performance ratio so long as they meet my needs. For example... an 850XT is a good card for the money it just wont suite the gaming I plan to do.


@ this whole conroe - AM2 shit

the conroe wont launch for QUITE some time now and we got ONE benchmark that was done by guess who... INTEL. Ill wait until I see some benchies from places like THG and other places besides INTEL or AMD.

Like it was said before... wait for 3-5 benchmarks to pop up before we start sprayin the forums with man whore and troll.
 
everyone should stfu until multiple sites run benchmarks then u may flame the losing party k?

right now u guys are arging like panzys

no its stupid
no you're stupid
no you're stupid
troll
ass
man whore
fat ass


who gives a..

wait til a more benchmarkls come out then u may make fun od mike and if mike ir right he gets all rights to make fun of u

so, danm sit tight
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That's about the best opinion I've seen all day. :twisted:

thanks
 
Mike, even Costco is thrashing AMD. Wake up and watch out for the Conroe that will smack you in your face! Accept defeat dude! You don't expect a big company like Intel to sit back and take it! Now it's your turn to take!
 
Mike, even Costco is thrashing AMD. Wake up and watch out for the Conroe that will smack you in your face! Accept defeat dude! You don't expect a big company like Intel to sit back and take it! Now it's your turn to take!
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wow.. intel fanboyz.. living in complete denials.
first of all, the site i posted actually stated some pretty good reasons for doubting intel's test with conroe. what are they? just go and read the thread i posted. i'm not going to write another 5 pages of reasons just to show you guys how the test was done unfairly.

actually Costco was not thrashing AMD. i saw a couple Turion labtops in Costco several days ago.

and dude.. before you said AMD FX-62 would be beaten by Conroe, don't forget you're comparing next gen's technology with the current ones, not to mention conroe hasn't really delivered what it promised. if you want to show that conroe really beats FX-62, show some proof that suggests it other than the rigged test done by intel. its just pointless pointing fingers around and insulting people.
 
this is a useless post,just agree to disagree and get over it.

Im a troll youre a troll,lets be a happy troll family.
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i agree. i think you guys are as pointless as this thread. the intel's test was on gaming, which doesn't really use CPU resources most of the time (unless you are talking about loading). wait for 3~5 benchmarks on intensive CPU programs to pop up, with testbeds set up correctly by 3rd neutral party, not by themselves. it would really convince people if intel just gives the chip to several third party sites and let them test it using their OWN testbeds.
 
everyone should stfu until multiple sites run benchmarks then u may flame the losing party k?

right now u guys are arging like panzys

no its stupid
no you're stupid
no you're stupid
troll
ass
man whore
fat ass


who gives a..

wait til a more benchmarks come out then u may make fun of mike and if mike is right he gets all rights to make fun of u

so, danm sit tight
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NICE ONE!! 😀😀 hats off to pengwin.. the most constructive feedback i've seen all day
 
Hey, Free speech!
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I am not censoring you or your ability to speak. (Though Freedom of speech doesn't actually mean you can say whatever you want, but thats for another forum).

I am saying that if you are going to start posting, you should contribute to discussions, not just say "Company x is great and better than company y."
 
we already discussed in the other post why its not being detected, and anandtech check the system aswell, and check the benchmarks with others and you will see the same results and even if there 5% off its still far far away from conroe.

This is P6 tech guys - Pentium 4 let us down, but P6 never.

Lumanirus confirmed it cause he has the same board and bios

If this was AMD benchmarks we wouldnt be arguing bout them you would accept them but when its Intel you dont.

I was waiting for the fastest cpu and conroe has shown up and won - im getting a conroe.
 
I can't wait to get a new... err.. used P4 Northy 3.0 ghz 800 FSB CPU!!

I'll be soo happy when the price drops from $188.00.

Okay.. so I wouldn't mine having a Conroe... or maybe a 2nd puter with AM2..

Or... maybe... a motherboard that would socket both conroe and am2?

Naaa... I'd never get any work done.
 
we already discussed in the other post why its not being detected, and anandtech check the system aswell, and check the benchmarks with others and you will see the same results and even if there 5% off its still far far away from conroe.

This is P6 tech guys - Pentium 4 let us down, but P6 never.

Lumanirus confirmed it cause he has the same board and bios

If this was AMD benchmarks we wouldnt be arguing bout them you would accept them but when its Intel you dont.

I was waiting for the fastest cpu and conroe has shown up and won - im getting a conroe.
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I fully agree - as much as I am pro AMD and hate Intel. The Intel hate stemming from the simple fact that they removed SMP from Celerons back in 2000 making my ABIT BP6 motherboard useless.

Since then I have been buying AMD - even if the performance was not up to it - specially on the notebook side.

The new Intel CPUs is a SERIOUS wakeup call to AMD.

So engineers at AMD, you better get something going - else you will be back to selling at discounted levels in stead of current highly overpriced CPUs.

Intel is Seriously going to kick a*s with their new offerings.
 
Quit spamming troll! :lol:
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lmfao........ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have said this before and I will say it again.....whatever kind of controvercy this has started is good for the industry....it was a pretty good move on Intel's part to do what they did......bad bios settings and a mis matched gereations of CPU's but they accomplished what they wanted at any rate... Right or wrong the buzz is going and now there is going to be a flurry of requests from THG, Anandtech and the others to try and duplicate these benches independently......so before everyone gets their shotguns and decides to go hunting fanboys, I suggest people be patient and let these guys do their jobs and tell us what is truly going on......in the end doesn't really matter who is the fastest does it? Cause the crown seems to pass back and forth all the time and we are the ones who benefit....
 
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