Amid Losses, AMD Looks to Restructure

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CEO Hector Ruiz says the company will focus on its core x86 processor and graphics business while other parts of the business will come under scrutiny.

By year’s end, Advanced Micro Devices might look like a different company.

During the company’s first-quarter 2008 earnings call April 18, CEO Hector Ruiz told analysts that the heavy losses the company has endured during the last six quarters will likely lead to a restructuring of the Sunnyvale, Calif., company.

For the first quarter, AMD posted a net loss of $538 million, or 59 cents a share, which was down from the $611 million, or $1.11 a share, loss the company posted a year ago. The company announced revenues of $1.51 billion, compared with $1.23 billion it posted a year ago and the $1.77 billion in revenues it had in the fourth-quarter 2007.

AMD posted a $50 million charge, or 8 cents a share, due to its 2006 acquisition of ATI....
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Amid Losses, AMD Looks to Restructure
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I wasn't even aware they HAD any business other than processors and graphics.

Are they counting mobo chipsets in with processors/graphics though? Or is it back to third party?
 

They own other small IC companys as well as make chips for cellphones.
 
It is a positive if the company is still afloat ... how ... I have no idea.

Let us pray no smug turkey posts a 400 word essay on the topic TC.

Short, mindless and vitriolic are fine ... keep going !!
 


Fanboy.... 😛
 
^ it's so obvious for me: Friends4Life and to a lesser extent: Amd4life
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Or is it AMD for 3 months more max...

Hey TC... Ive been saying it too.....


Just too many things have gone wrong.... Sounds like AMD is pretending to be a Russian Submarine..

Crashing down inside out..
 
Could be worse ... Imagine being on a Pommy submarine crew ... cor blimey ... no thanks !!

The Russian sub with the leaky reactor would have to be better.

Mine you our Australian subs don't actually work ... they are not too keen going underwater ... sharks are just too bad down below and the weather is too good on top.

Safer on top with the hatch open getting some fresh air ... and you can see where your going and mow down the illegal fishing vessels and see the whites in their eyes.

Plus they are used to train our Olympic swimmers ... the subs power along in front of the swimmers towing boxes of weetbix and fruit as incentives.

See you at the Olympics hellboy !!!




 
AMD - If you didn't see this coming with the losses over the last quarters. And if you *somehow* managed to turn a blind eye/remain faithful while AMD executives have been bailing. Well.. Then there's not much point is us saying "We Told You It Was Coming". But we'll say it anyhow. You know, for grins.



On the other side - This *JUST* means that AMD is and has been losing money due to aquisition costs and the lack/delay in acceptance of their newest proccy. So they are publicly doing the Bloodletting thing. keeps shareholders/analysts happy ("Well.. at least they're working on it"), and could work. The question being if the survivors are internal loyalists, or actual performers. That'll remain to be seen.






Hmmm... Makes me wonder.... If the captain of the sub hung the Wheetbix and Fruit on a long stick in front of the swimmers... and the swimmers towed the sub... Would it go any faster?? :lol:
 
Looking at what is being said around the net... it would seem AMD have a decent roadmap ahead over the next year or so.


- 6 core CPUs @ 45nm with L3 cache reported on dailytech last week - makes me wonder will they try for more cores without L3 cache. Definitely could be worth doing for the HPC market alone.

- Shanghai already out and about as reported by Anand blogs at CEBIT. Fudzilla reporting 3.2 GHz (although I take that with a pinch of salt)

- TGDaily is saying the RV770 is in production and will be early.

- Fudzilla claiming Bulldozer will launch late 2009 (they also claim sample in the same article- so interpret as you will)




Right now it seems Intel and AMD are tick tocking out of step with each other.

Intel ticked to 45nm last year, AMD tocked to Barcelona last year.

Intel tocking to Nehalem this year, AMD ticking to 45nm this year.

Inteal ticking to 32nm next year, AMD tocking to Bulldozer next year.
 



While Barcelona should have been a tock, it was more of a flop, which is the big issue.

Whenever one of the companies "tocks" it should be the performance king. So AMD will "tick" to 45nm, won't say any significant gains, then Intel will "tock" to Core 3 or whatever they want to call it and it will just widen the gap.

So AMD will go 45nm, then hopefully a year or so later they'll "tock" to whatever is next, K11, or whatever you want to call it. However, cash strapped AMD is going to have money issues when it comes to designing the next gen.

I fear that AMD will implode into financial insolvency or fade into irrelevancy (VIA). If either happens, we lose.
 


Barcelona is not a flop.

In the server and workstation arena even at its current lower clocks it is a match for the top Xeons.

It has been demonstrated that the K10 arch scales better with clock, so when they do get a bump in clock-speeds at 45nm - which we must assume they will... then it will be quicker than the Penryn lineup (as it already matches or beats most of it).

Phenom is a bit of a disaster, hence aggressive price marketing.


Nehalem will change the professional scenery somewhat, with intel finally moving away from their archaic FSB (why they are doing Dunnington escapes me - 4 cores are memory starved never mind 6). Even then, the Nehalem die size is touted to be massive, so AMD can compete on price, or increased cores (Istanbul's 6 cores versus 4 w /SMT*).

We are also assuming Intel's first bash at Hypertransport and an IMC on an x86 proc is going to be a success.



*Nehalem 8 core native is scheduled for Q4 2009.





Right now I am assuming Bulldozer leverages modified GP-GPU pipes within the CPU itself to execute massively parallel jobs extremely quickly, while passing off the more intricate jobs to a more conventional approach. Kind of like... it has 8 native cores, can do some things in 32x parallel, others in 16x, others in 64x and others in just 8....
 
Tick and tock ?? ... well its probably more of a clunk and a whirr for AMD at the moment ... bit like a Lada Niva or a Series 2A Landrover ... not something you take a date out in.

I think reality and the roadmaps are reflective of two different branes.

Lets see what the new Chipset can extract out of the B3's ... evidently it is able to get the IMC running at a higher OC and stable ... hmmm.

Thats Fudzilla's latest rumour.

Yes ... us AMDites are clutching at straws at the moment ... sad ... pathetic.

Did I mention memory performance again ? oh ... sorry.

Amiga500 ... I'm there in spirit ... a little wet and bedraggled tho.








 



I was thinking of the Phenom when I wrote that, thanks for the correction.


However, all the TLB and other issues that delayed it about a year still make me feel like it was a flop. But Barcelona does do alright now that it's all fixed up.
 
I am doing paperwork ... yeah ... working ... doing an MOU for GM for trg.

12:46 am here.

I like doing stuff in the early hours.

Quiet.

turpit has dibs on that job ... I want to run marketing tho.

I have better ties than Henri had and I speak English ... well Australian (so I can learn) ... LOL



 


OI!!!!

Don't be slagging the Landrovers!!! :lol:




Lets see what the new Chipset can extract out of the B3's ... evidently it is able to get the IMC running at a higher OC and stable ... hmmm.

Thats Fudzilla's latest rumour.
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Erm... yeah... seen that... paid little attention to it.


I think its about as realistic as Charlie D's double data rate hypertransport or whatever it was for the X2s (was going to double their IPCs overnight :lol: )


 


From those familiar with the industry, Xeon is actually taking over the MP space. Barcelona apparently is overpriced. I need to find the proof for it though.

Phenom is a bit of a disaster, hence aggressive price marketing.
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Only a bit?

Let me show you how much a disaster Phenom was.

Using AMD's N-bench3, this is a Phenom X4 9600 B2 with no TLB patch.
AMD-2_3GHz-n-Bench3-2.jpg

Thanks JJ for the benchmark.

And this is my laptop, w/ T5600, running at 1.83Ghz, with 2Mb of L2.
Nbench3.jpg


See what I mean? 😉

Nehalem will change the professional scenery somewhat, with intel finally moving away from their archaic FSB (why they are doing Dunnington escapes me - 4 cores are memory starved never mind 6). Even then, the Nehalem die size is touted to be massive, so AMD can compete on price, or increased cores (Istanbul's 6 cores versus 4 w /SMT*).
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Actually Fudzilla misquoted, misrepresented, and miscalculated the die size for Nehalem. Please allow me to illustrate:

Nehalem's wafer:
nehalemwafer.jpg


Shanghai's wafer:
Chips-big.jpg


Do you honestly believe Fuddo's "Nehalem's die is 10% to 20% larger than Shanghai's die"?

 
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