[SOLVED] Any problems with my PC rig?

[Fatpcsnat]

I am new to the whole PC buildng idea, and im not very sure of what I should check after ive finished a build. If anyone notices any problems I would be extremely greatful to hear them. Just wanted to make sure that theres no compatability problems that PcPartPicker wouldnt have told me. Thank you!

My build is
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Fatpcsnat/saved/BrMRJx

If anyone has any suggestions, whether it be replacement or I forgot to add something it would be greatly appreciated!

(Note: I intend to save up for a RTX 2080Ti, but the price gap is too severe at the moment. )

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Very very nice build , will be a beast.

 

[Fatpcsnat]

Very very nice build , will be a beast.

Thank you!

 

[geofelt]

Presuming this is for gaming, I have some suggestions:

1. I7-9700K will game just as well, few games can make effective use of more than 4 threads, the 9700K has 8.
No real need for the 16 on the 9900K.

2. You have a very nice case with good airflow.
A top air cooler like the noctua NH-D15s will be cheaper and cool equally well. In addition, it will be easier to install, be quieter, require no maintenance and will not leak.

3. a 2 x 8gb ram kit will cost you less. Games do not need more than 16gb.

4. Love the 1tb ssd. It will hold a bunch of games. Why not defer on the HDD until you actually need the space or you want to store large video files. WD and hitachi may be more reliable.

5. With whatever you save, you can put it into a RTX2080 or more.

 

[Fatpcsnat]

Presuming this is for gaming, I have some suggestions:

1. I7-9700K will game just as well, few games can make effective use of more than 4 threads, the 9700K has 8.
No real need for the 16 on the 9900K.

2. You have a very nice case with good airflow.
A top air cooler like the noctua NH-D15s will be cheaper and cool equally well. In addition, it will be easier to install, be quieter, require no maintenance and will not leak.

3. a 2 x 8gb ram kit will cost you less. Games do not need more than 16gb.

4. Love the 1tb ssd. It will hold a bunch of games. Why not defer on the HDD until you actually need the space or you want to store large video files. WD and hitachi may be more reliable.

5. With whatever you save, you can put it into a RTX2080 or more.

1.) However, doesnt the i9 9900k have a faster multi-core speed? Or does that not matter to the severity that I think it does.

2.) I understand that while an air cooler is cheaper and easier to install, I have read by numerous websites telling me that water-cooling is quieter and more efficienr. Is it worth it?

3.) Popular sites suggested that I have atleast 16, or is this false?

4.) What do you mean by defer on the HDD, and I will look into Hitachi and WD. I will not however, be storing large video files, and im not sure if it would be very helpful to have such an ability.

5.) I was hoping to save up for a 2080 Ti eventually, once the price gap decreases.

 

[geofelt]

1. The i9-9900K and the i7-9700K will both generally overclock to the same 5.0 level(i5-9600K will too)

2. Point me to a couple of those web sites.
The noise a cooler makes is mainly determined by the fans involved and the rpm at which they need to turn.
The kraken X62 has two 140mm fans running at 500 to 1800 rpm.
Add in whatever noise the pump has which is minor.
Those two fans push air through a radiator to cool the liquid flowing through the pump.
specs say 21-38dBA
The noctua NH-D15s also has two radiator stacks that are mounted on the cooler itself.
There is a liquid inside that circulates.
The fan is a single 140mm fan that runs at 300 to 1500 rpm.
Noise is maximum 24.6 dBA less if you include the supplied low noise adapter.
One can add a second fan but the added benefit to cooling is minimal.

There is another potential issue with liquid coolers...
How to mount them.
If you mount the radiator to draw in fresh air from the front, the hot radiator exhaust heats up the motherboard and graphics card.
OTOH, if you mount it on to exhausting air, the cooler will get preheated case air to work with and the processor will not be cooled as well.
Since coolers are benchmarked on an open test bead as a rule, you do not see this.

3. More ram never hurts.. The question is how much, if anything do you gain from the extra 16gb?
If you are heavily multitasking while gaming, then I can see 32gb. For that matter, the 9900K might be appropriate in that situation.

4. I meant why buy something up front that you have no immediate use for.

5. So long as a RTX2080ti is the top dog, do not expect any miraculous price drops.
One way to hedge your bet is to buy an EVGA RTX2070. EVGA has a 90 day upgrade option where they will credit your purchase price on a trade in for a stronger card. Read the mice type on their web site for all the details.

 

[Fatpcsnat]

1. The i9-9900K and the i7-9700K will both generally overclock to the same 5.0 level(i5-9600K will too)

2. Point me to a couple of those web sites.
The noise a cooler makes is mainly determined by the fans involved and the rpm at which they need to turn.
The kraken X62 has two 140mm fans running at 500 to 1800 rpm.
Add in whatever noise the pump has which is minor.
Those two fans push air through a radiator to cool the liquid flowing through the pump.
specs say 21-38dBA
The noctua NH-D15s also has two radiator stacks that are mounted on the cooler itself.
There is a liquid inside that circulates.
The fan is a single 140mm fan that runs at 300 to 1500 rpm.
Noise is maximum 24.6 dBA less if you include the supplied low noise adapter.
One can add a second fan but the added benefit to cooling is minimal.

There is another potential issue with liquid coolers...
How to mount them.
If you mount the radiator to draw in fresh air from the front, the hot radiator exhaust heats up the motherboard and graphics card.
OTOH, if you mount it on to exhausting air, the cooler will get preheated case air to work with and the processor will not be cooled as well.
Since coolers are benchmarked on an open test bead as a rule, you do not see this.

3. More ram never hurts.. The question is how much, if anything do you gain from the extra 16gb?
If you are heavily multitasking while gaming, then I can see 32gb. For that matter, the 9900K might be appropriate in that situation.

4. I meant why buy something up front that you have no immediate use for.

5. So long as a RTX2080ti is the top dog, do not expect any miraculous price drops.
One way to hedge your bet is to buy an EVGA RTX2070. EVGA has a 90 day upgrade option where they will credit your purchase price on a trade in for a stronger card. Read the mice type on their web site for all the details.

1.) I found some tests online that showed the i9 9900k could be clocked to an average of 5-5.2 Hz, while the i7 9700k could only reach 4.9-5.1 Hz, although this isnt much of a difference, ive decided to stick the with the i9, simply because im not too worried about spending an extra hundred.

2.) I feel like a water cooler would be great as I plan to do some overclocking, here are some sites.

Should You Cool a CPU with Air or Liquid? - NZXT

There are only two ways to cool a CPU but do you know which one is better?

blog.nzxt.com

Liquid vs Air CPU Cooler - Which Should I Choose? [Simple]

Is a liquid cooler worth it or should you go for an air CPU cooler? We dug deeper and found a simple answer to this question. The answer might surprise you.

www.gamingscan.com

https://store.hp.com/app/tech-takes/10-reasons-use-liquid-cooling-vs-air-cooling-gaming-pc

3.) What do you mean by “heavily-multitasking”? Multiple monitors or programs running? Or multiple games?

4.) Im kind of confused about what you mean when you say “no immediate use for” should I not be getting a hard drive and just sticking with the SSD?

5.) That may be true, but atleast I wont have to wait till I have another 1000 to build this, I can earn more money and buy the 2080Ti once ive earned enough to afford the upgrade.

 

[geofelt]

1. If you are not too worried about price, by all means, buy a i9-9900K.
How high you can overclock any processor will be determined by your luck in getting a good chip.
These statistics come from silicon lottery, an outfit that bins chips and sells the better ones for a price premium.
As of 2/6/2019
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane Vcore in the 1.337 to 1.375 range.
And AVX offset = 2.

I7-9700K

5.2 10%
5.1 35%
5.0 78%
4.9 100%

As of 2/6/2019 from silicon lottery:
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane vcore in the 1.275v to 1.312
And AVX offset = 2.

I9-9900K
4.8 100%
4.9 86%
5.0 39%
5.1 8%
One of the 5.1 9900K processors will cost you a cool $900.

Overclocking with higher voltages will damage your processor.
The high numbers you hear bandied about are from those with good chips that have stressed them above safe levels.

3. On cooling, consider the source. NZXT makes fancy aio coolers and want to sell them.
The second source is more reasonable. Note that their recommendation of an aio is for extreme overclocking which I hope you are not considering.
It is also for those with cramped cases.
Your H700 case is a nice one with plenty of front air intake capability.

As to cooling capability, here is a comparison of the NH-D15 vs. several aio coolers.
http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/1
The NH-D15s is essentially the same cooler as the NH-D15 except that the D15s is a high compatibility version that clears tall ram and is offset to clear graphics cards.
One can add a second fan for a slight bump in cooling.
The temperatures on an open test bed are very close.
Where an aio loses is in the noise required for maximum cooling.

4. By heavy multitasking, I mean running other batch apps while gaming.
Editing a video for example.

5. Computer parts get better and cheaper over time.
Why pay for something now that you do not plan to use?
If you do buy a HDD, buy an EXTERNAL one for backup.

6. Games will be limited by either the cpu or the graphics card.
If your games are fast action shooters, spend more on a fast graphics card.
If you are planning to use a high resolution monitor, buy a strong graphics card.
If your games are sims, mmo or strategy types, they depend on a fast single master thread.
If you play multiplayer games with many participants, there is where the 16 threads of a 9900K will shine.

 

[Fatpcsnat]

3.) not only does the air cooler not match the color of my build, it seems as though the Kraken performs better, while being louder, (which wouldnt be a problem as I would have headphones on) What is an Aio and why should I not use one?

5.) Whats a good backup external hdd drive? And why would I need one?

6.) So should I switch to an EVGA 2070 and upgrade? Will it work with my Gigabyte motherboard?

 

[geofelt]

3) If color is important, do what you wish.
You can replace the fan on a noctua cooler wit colored fans or rgb fans if you wish.
I would not bother but that's just me.
AIO is a short hand term for All In One cooler.

5) If you have anything on your pc that you can't afford to lose, you need external backup.
Family photos, for example.
Any pc can possibly contract a virus, malware or encrypted ransomware. It can suffer physical damage like a fire or theft.
To protect what you treasure, buy a usb attached hard drive and back those things up.

6) The main limitation of any graphics card will be the psu.
Your evga 750w g2 is a very good tier 1 unit.
It can run any modern card out today, including 2080ti or even titan Z

 

[Fatpcsnat]

5.) Would an anti-virus program not work the same? I do not typically store images on my computers, usually just mod files and other things, nothing im that afraid to lose.

6.) But would an EVGA 2070 work with a gigabyte motherboard?

 

[geofelt]

5) Most viruses enter a pc via social engineering.
You open a phishing email.
You look at video sent by a friend who has been hacked.
You visit a web site with compromised ad code.
Any number of things.
There are two types of antivirus programs.
The ones like defender look for known viruses and block them.
The overhead is minimal and maintenance is automatic.
A second type also looks for unusual symptoms and tries to block a virus "in the wild"
That is a virus that nobody has seen before. That type of antivirus can have a significant impact on performance.
If you are prudent, a simple antivirus is fine.

6) EVGA 2070 would work fine on a gigabyte motherboard or any other brand motherboard
Graphics cards need only a pcie x16 slot and sufficient power.
The brands or nvidia/amd is not a factor.

 

[Fatpcsnat]

6.) Should I go with the EVGA 2070 or the EVGA 2080 if I plan to eventually upgrade to a 2080Ti, there is about a $200 price difference.

 

[geofelt]

6.) Should I go with the EVGA 2070 or the EVGA 2080 if I plan to eventually upgrade to a 2080Ti, there is about a $200 price difference.

I do not know how to answer.
I do not like interim solutions.
Upgrading later will require you to dispose of your old card, usually at a loss.
$1200 seems quite harsh to me for a graphics card.

I think you would see less benefit from a 9900K compared to a 9700K
than you would from a 2070 to a 2080

Use the $100 saved to buy the best graphics card your conscience and your wallet will allow.

I have found that I have fewer regrets overpaying for something good.

 

[Fatpcsnat]

Ok, ill switch to the i7 9900k, and taking to mind that the 2080 Ti is the top of the food chain around now, I think 1.2k is not nearly as bad as some other GPU’s, if you have a better idea for how I should build my plans Id love to hear them, but I was going to take advantage of EVGA’s 90 day upgrade program to give me time to earn the last bit of money while actually having the computer for no loss.