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>On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:13:49 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>
>wrote:
>
>>If there's so much danger that someone might break in while you're home,
>>there's just as much (or more) that someone will break in while you're
>>out and your gun is lying around to be stolen.
>
>I was more thinking about keeping the firearm accessible WHEN you are
>at home. Not necessarily leaving them lying around when you are not.
Yeah but all too many don't secure them at all.
Like I said before - a properly stored and secured firearm doesn't
become involved in an "accidental shooting"
>What is the reason to have guns at home anyway? Wasn't it so that you
>can shoot or scare away a burglar or some crackhead entering your home
>in the middle of night when you are sleeping? What good is a gun then
>if it is locked up in a safe?
How the long do you think it would take to get it out?
They do make keyless entry gun safes that you could open in the same
amount of time you type in your ATM pin.
With a little practice you can have access to your pistol in _seconds_,
but never have to worry about the kids getting hold of it.
[This kind of safe is portable so it could be stolen. It would stop
accidental shootings since the kids can't get the gun but it wouldn't
necessarily stop a thief from taking gun and safe to try and open it
elsewhere.]
I'm not talking about keeping the gun in a safe in the den downstairs
while you're upstairs sleeping.
I'm talking about it in a safe in your bedroom, since that's where the
gun is anyway to "protect you while sleeping'.
Crackhead breaks in, alarms go off, lights start flashing - crackhead
leaves without you ever needing a gun.
Even if he doesn't, you have ample warning to get your gun.
>But like you said, keeping the guns accessible this way can pose
>problems as well.
Yeah, multitudes of accidental shootings, stolen guns and that many more
guns available for crimes.
Frankly, if an American isn't willing to store his guns properly and
safely and take basic precautions to make them less likely to be stolen,
he should be able to own a gun.
If you aren't willing to take the responsibilities that go along with
the RIGHT, you lose the right.
Any damages or death caused by his gun are his fault, and he should be
charged accordingly.
Yes that means when Joe Bozo's son finds his gun under the mattress and
accidently kills himself with it, Joe Bozo gets charged for making it
possible.
Joe Bozo's gun gets stolen from under the mattress and used to kill
someone - Joe gets charged as an accessory to that shooting, since he
made it possible.
Funny how neither of those infringe at all on the "right to own a gun",
just the right to be a bad, lazy and stupid gun owner.
Xocyll
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