I love these tests. They are always different from site to site. Another site (not sure if I'm allowed to link here), had totally the opposite results on the battery tests, stating the iPhone 5 web surfing was 200 minutes compared to the S3's 359 minutes. I tend to think depending on how you want to perform tests on a phone, you can tweak the results in favor of one device or another. Not complaining, just observiing.
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Hrm, it appears my post didn't go through. If this doubles up, sorry. >.<
LG Opimus G Geekbench scores:
Total: 2231
Integer: 1512
Floating Point: 3695
Memory: 1757
Stream: 501
Pretty easily beasts the iPhone 5 on cpu, and is close on memory. I couldn't get the glbench to run however, maybe there's not support for the phone yet.
LG Opimus G Geekbench scores:
Total: 2231
Integer: 1512
Floating Point: 3695
Memory: 1757
Stream: 501
Pretty easily beasts the iPhone 5 on cpu, and is close on memory. I couldn't get the glbench to run however, maybe there's not support for the phone yet.
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[citation][nom]vaughn2k[/nom]"The iPhone just doesn't have the magical hold on the smartphone market that it once did."yeah and there are more better options out there...[/citation]
of course there are considerably better alternatives out there. Nokia Lumia 920/htc 8x and Samsung Ativ S are all better option than the iphone
of course there are considerably better alternatives out there. Nokia Lumia 920/htc 8x and Samsung Ativ S are all better option than the iphone
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Proprietary power connector
No SD slot
Non-replaceable battery
The 3gs was my last iPhone, no more Apple for me. Since then I have been though a Galaxy S2, and now I am on a Note 2. Everytime I upgrade my phone, I like to unlock, give to my kids and use a cheapie prepay. The 3gs can't hold a charge now. The S2 is getting that way, but at least I can order a battery from NewEgg for under ten bucks and simply pop it in.
No SD slot
Non-replaceable battery
The 3gs was my last iPhone, no more Apple for me. Since then I have been though a Galaxy S2, and now I am on a Note 2. Everytime I upgrade my phone, I like to unlock, give to my kids and use a cheapie prepay. The 3gs can't hold a charge now. The S2 is getting that way, but at least I can order a battery from NewEgg for under ten bucks and simply pop it in.
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[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]No...the iPhone 5 is not the best (and I certainly am not an Apple/iOS hater by any stretch). The forced grid of icons is past being dated when Android not only allows that style (for those that need simplicity....) but widgets and other customizations (...for those that don't). As mentioned above a phone that is created in 2012 that not only ignores durability but actually makes strides in the other direction really can not be considered the best no matter how light, fast, "optimized" it is or how cute some may think it looks.[/citation]
lol... when there's a will there's a way.
lol... when there's a will there's a way.
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Droid DNA, Optimus G, Nexus 4, Note 2.....where are the new phones? This review could have been done forever ago...
I mean, it's one thing that Apple releases only a handful of products every year in the mobile space, but that doesn't mean that its competition doesn't get more and more competitive with every passing week it seems releasing new and improved hardware and software....WHERE's the NEW STUFF!??!?!!
I mean, it's one thing that Apple releases only a handful of products every year in the mobile space, but that doesn't mean that its competition doesn't get more and more competitive with every passing week it seems releasing new and improved hardware and software....WHERE's the NEW STUFF!??!?!!
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Excuse me but there's much to improve in this article.
Firstly, we're all tech enthusiasts and we do love benchmark bars but in the case of smartphones the actual demands of processing lie mainly in the OS and their multitasking overhead so benchmarks as they're set cannot be used to scale the performance of the platform in real life. For instance, one could claim a BlackBerry 7 device running on a modest single core runs just fine while a dual-core doesn't always provide enough juice for the latest Android releases;
Secondly, the displays Apple choose to ship in their devices are certainly good and the article portraits it well, but a good screen is not all about pixels per square inch. Apple devices take regular criticism over their colour gamut % and readability over sunlight. The iPhone 5 is no exception;
Thirdly, iPhones do not support MicroSD and mass storage emulation over USB and these missing features are major drawbacks for iOS so some severe criticism over it should do good to Apple. In comparison, other platforms may have their storage upgraded by 64GB (higher capacity MicroSD are currently not avaiable) and that can be a great low-cost upgrade for music/video lovers and any sort of recordings;
Finally, claiming the camera takes photos faster is certainly valid but not of much relevance hence it shouldn't be at the very top of the page. The quality of the final photos and videos are far more important and that's the focus. In a real world one cannot praise the quality of the camera on the iPhone without comparing it to Nokia as even its fairly outdated N8 should put the iPhone 5 a hard fight.
Firstly, we're all tech enthusiasts and we do love benchmark bars but in the case of smartphones the actual demands of processing lie mainly in the OS and their multitasking overhead so benchmarks as they're set cannot be used to scale the performance of the platform in real life. For instance, one could claim a BlackBerry 7 device running on a modest single core runs just fine while a dual-core doesn't always provide enough juice for the latest Android releases;
Secondly, the displays Apple choose to ship in their devices are certainly good and the article portraits it well, but a good screen is not all about pixels per square inch. Apple devices take regular criticism over their colour gamut % and readability over sunlight. The iPhone 5 is no exception;
Thirdly, iPhones do not support MicroSD and mass storage emulation over USB and these missing features are major drawbacks for iOS so some severe criticism over it should do good to Apple. In comparison, other platforms may have their storage upgraded by 64GB (higher capacity MicroSD are currently not avaiable) and that can be a great low-cost upgrade for music/video lovers and any sort of recordings;
Finally, claiming the camera takes photos faster is certainly valid but not of much relevance hence it shouldn't be at the very top of the page. The quality of the final photos and videos are far more important and that's the focus. In a real world one cannot praise the quality of the camera on the iPhone without comparing it to Nokia as even its fairly outdated N8 should put the iPhone 5 a hard fight.
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]That weak-@$$ soft alumiinum body should be tested too. That's a particularly sore spot for me. So much for Apple's nice build quality that the iPhone 4 had. "Handle with care." Everyone is not me so everyone doesn't handle their belongings with care.[/citation]
I've had zero problems with my iPhone 5's back, and I check it at least every couple of days out of paranoia.
I've had zero problems with my iPhone 5's back, and I check it at least every couple of days out of paranoia.
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]No...the iPhone 5 is not the best (and I certainly am not an Apple/iOS hater by any stretch). The forced grid of icons is past being dated when Android not only allows that style (for those that need simplicity....) but widgets and other customizations (...for those that don't). As mentioned above a phone that is created in 2012 that not only ignores durability but actually makes strides in the other direction really can not be considered the best no matter how light, fast, "optimized" it is or how cute some may think it looks.[/citation]
I agree. Why have all your icons in a grid, when... you can have different sized icons in the damn type of grid?
I agree. Why have all your icons in a grid, when... you can have different sized icons in the damn type of grid?
blazorthon
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Anyone who dislikes the Galaxy S3's power consumption should note that a few dollars can buy the extended battery with more than double the stock battery's capacity... No phone with a removable battery should be left with a crappy stock battery that doesn't even last a full day of heavy usage or about a week of light usage per charge 
[citation][nom]cknobman[/nom]This is about the lamest shit excuse I have ever heard and downright pathetic that the author would try to justify Apples blatant gouging by ripping millions of people off charging $30 for a $2 part.[/citation]
You don't understand the subject if you're calling a converter like Apple's a mere $2 part. I wouldn't call it a $30 part, but at least $5-10 is reasonable. It's not a mere adapter that just rearranges the pins to a different size, it's converting a variety of different signals and that's no dirt cheap task for a company trying to be profitable on a product.
[citation][nom]cknobman[/nom]This is about the lamest shit excuse I have ever heard and downright pathetic that the author would try to justify Apples blatant gouging by ripping millions of people off charging $30 for a $2 part.[/citation]
You don't understand the subject if you're calling a converter like Apple's a mere $2 part. I wouldn't call it a $30 part, but at least $5-10 is reasonable. It's not a mere adapter that just rearranges the pins to a different size, it's converting a variety of different signals and that's no dirt cheap task for a company trying to be profitable on a product.
I realize Tom's fans aren't too big on new Windows stuff, but I love my Lumia 920 far more than the iPhones I've had (see: all of them). The display is better, and it just feels 'solid'. Now seeing reviews where Apple says paint chips are normal wear and tear makes me laugh, I don't feel like I would ever need a case with the Nokia tank.
[citation][nom]dare2blink[/nom]Seems apple has not inovated for a couple of years now. I´m shocked that the most inovative and arguably the best phone of the year is not even mentioned in this article. Nokia Lumia 920 is definitely the most inovative na the most complete phone reseased so far. It has much better build quality, a better screen and camera than the iphone 5, not to mention a much more inovative OS.[/citation]
Soo.. what you're saying is that Nokia's recent innovations are more innovative than Apple's recent innovations which are hardly innovative? Sounds like Apple needs to learn from Nokia where innovative innovations are innovated.. heeheehee
Soo.. what you're saying is that Nokia's recent innovations are more innovative than Apple's recent innovations which are hardly innovative? Sounds like Apple needs to learn from Nokia where innovative innovations are innovated.. heeheehee
masterofevil22
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[citation][nom]clownbaby[/nom]so, judging by this timing, we should see reviews for Nexus 4, Note II, Optimus G sometime in the Spring?Maybe spend more time writing reviews then making sure everyone at starbucks sees your new Iphone 5.[/citation]
lmfao
lmfao
Yeah, USB carries 5v on two of its lines, but according to the spec, devices can draw no more current than half a watt. That's not a problem for smartphones, but it's kinda inconvenient if the device you're trying to charge has a big monster battery.
The point of the Lightning port was to replicate the functionality of the 30-pin connector using a smaller, all-digital form factor. Sure USB is programmable, but it's also slooooow. Until USB 3 is available in a mobile device-friendly form factor, it will remain too slow to handle high-bandwidth applications like high-def video.
The point of the Lightning port was to replicate the functionality of the 30-pin connector using a smaller, all-digital form factor. Sure USB is programmable, but it's also slooooow. Until USB 3 is available in a mobile device-friendly form factor, it will remain too slow to handle high-bandwidth applications like high-def video.
blazorthon
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[citation][nom]Blah_Blah_Yadda_Yadda[/nom]Yeah, USB carries 5v on two of its lines, but according to the spec, devices can draw no more current than half a watt. That's not a problem for smartphones, but it's kinda inconvenient if the device you're trying to charge has a big monster battery.The point of the Lightning port was to replicate the functionality of the 30-pin connector using a smaller, all-digital form factor. Sure USB is programmable, but it's also slooooow. Until USB 3 is available in a mobile device-friendly form factor, it will remain too slow to handle high-bandwidth applications like high-def video.[/citation]
According to the wiki, USB 2.0 supports up to 5 amps of 5W for charging. That's 25W. Furthermore, high-def video isn't normally run on USB, so I fail to see your point there. Regardless, USB 2.0 supports up to about 400Mb/s of practical throughput and usually tops out at about half that. Around 200Mb/s is around 25MB/s. That's fast enough for HD video and regardless, it's fast enough for any use of USB with smart phones and tablets. Would USB 3.0 be better? Maybe, but USB 2.0 has thus far been plenty.
According to the wiki, USB 2.0 supports up to 5 amps of 5W for charging. That's 25W. Furthermore, high-def video isn't normally run on USB, so I fail to see your point there. Regardless, USB 2.0 supports up to about 400Mb/s of practical throughput and usually tops out at about half that. Around 200Mb/s is around 25MB/s. That's fast enough for HD video and regardless, it's fast enough for any use of USB with smart phones and tablets. Would USB 3.0 be better? Maybe, but USB 2.0 has thus far been plenty.
TYpical comments when comparing iphone.
Camera? , we have nokia 920
Screen? we haves3. note II, the bigger the better
Color accuracy? im not photographer. thats doesn't matter
Screen PPI? i heard something with 400+ dpi coming soon
Processor? we have Optimus G/ perhaps note II sometimes, or SG4? note III
GPU? nah, i don't gv a shit
Weight? its doesn't matter anymore
CASE? i prefer plastic since it absorb impact, beside aluminum prone to scratches, its the main factor stopping me from believing iphone quality.
OS? i want customization! simplicity just too bored. i just love to change my phone every year to get latest update.
i wish i could have a phone with all that features.
Camera? , we have nokia 920
Screen? we haves3. note II, the bigger the better
Color accuracy? im not photographer. thats doesn't matter
Screen PPI? i heard something with 400+ dpi coming soon
Processor? we have Optimus G/ perhaps note II sometimes, or SG4? note III
GPU? nah, i don't gv a shit
Weight? its doesn't matter anymore
CASE? i prefer plastic since it absorb impact, beside aluminum prone to scratches, its the main factor stopping me from believing iphone quality.
OS? i want customization! simplicity just too bored. i just love to change my phone every year to get latest update.
i wish i could have a phone with all that features.
Just to point something out:
1) Was the S3 used a North American or International version?
2) As others have said, Why did the review blindly ignore the Nokia Lumia 920?
3) I repair phones everyday. Having spent alot of time with all of the phones listed, The numbers on the benchmarks just feel wrong. Speaking from experience using all the phones, the iPhone 5 is fast but doesn't feel like the sort of margin the numbers are saying.
I dunno, maybe me, but something seems hinky with this article...
1) Was the S3 used a North American or International version?
2) As others have said, Why did the review blindly ignore the Nokia Lumia 920?
3) I repair phones everyday. Having spent alot of time with all of the phones listed, The numbers on the benchmarks just feel wrong. Speaking from experience using all the phones, the iPhone 5 is fast but doesn't feel like the sort of margin the numbers are saying.
I dunno, maybe me, but something seems hinky with this article...
vmem
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[citation][nom]shompa[/nom]Hint: Lumia 920 uses almost 2 year old technique and weights over 60% more then iPhone5. Its CPU is 50% slower. GPU 60%+ slower. The hardware is dictated by Microsoft. Nokia can't/don't do anything. Lumia is hyped by tech nerds who haven't used GalaxyS3/iPhone5. But:There are only 3 phones that people should consider buying:iPhone5GalaxyS3andLumia920.People who loves integration = iPhonePeople who loves openness/fragmentation = GalaxyS3People who loves photography = Lumia 920.The sad thing is that we have to many MSFTdrones and Fandroids.[/citation]
a 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon s4 is 50% slower than the A6? I'll be nice and call them even, but IMHO the snapdragon has a slight (that reads maybe 5-10% edge). unfortunately I'll admit that WP8 OS is a bit heavier than iOS6 and in the end both devices will feel about equally snappy (meaning the isheep hail their phones as king...)
as for phone choices, yes, I agree that people who loves openness and tweaking with their gadgets should get the GS3 (honestly isn't that 90% of us here on Toms?"
as for integration, have you even gave win8/WP8 a fair look? sure metro-UI has it's problems but you'd have to be blind to not see the integration there. If anything, in this day and age, iphones are for the isheep who's invested too much in the itunes store that they'd essentially be denying their purpose for life if they said anything bad about apple -_-
a 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon s4 is 50% slower than the A6? I'll be nice and call them even, but IMHO the snapdragon has a slight (that reads maybe 5-10% edge). unfortunately I'll admit that WP8 OS is a bit heavier than iOS6 and in the end both devices will feel about equally snappy (meaning the isheep hail their phones as king...)
as for phone choices, yes, I agree that people who loves openness and tweaking with their gadgets should get the GS3 (honestly isn't that 90% of us here on Toms?"
as for integration, have you even gave win8/WP8 a fair look? sure metro-UI has it's problems but you'd have to be blind to not see the integration there. If anything, in this day and age, iphones are for the isheep who's invested too much in the itunes store that they'd essentially be denying their purpose for life if they said anything bad about apple -_-
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