It will be interesting to see how well AMDs 180w TDP CPU can be cooled, I just wonder if it will require a AiO minimum for proper cooling or not. I also assume the OCing will be slightly lower than Ryzen, as is with most CPUs with more cores comes lower clock speed.
I wouldn't be so sure about that -- I suspect AMD 'binned' for Epyc and TR, and whatever missed the grade was passed on to desktop Ryzen.
And, as Paul pointed out in another thread --> TR is not a monolithic die, it is a 'glued' MCM as Chipzilla derisively pointed out whereby two processors simply exist side-by-side under the same lid.
That will certainly make OC'ing interesting depending upon their integration.
The other thing: The early Epyc power consumption numbers look really good, i.e., "Less Power = Less Heat"