Question Are these temps too high for a Ryzen 2600X ?

[Loycera]

So as the name suggests I'm wondering if these temps are high for my cpu or could be the indication of a problem. I've tried a whole bunch of thing's to get them lowered but nothing so far has worked. So my pc has a Ryzen 2600X with a B450 Aorus M mobo, Coolermaster q300l case with 2 fans on the front pulling in and one fan on the top rear exhausting, RTX3060, 500w PSU. Also running stock cooler. So whenever having my normal programs open like discord, browser, voicemeter, steam, it runs pretty warm at about 61c on average according to hwinfo64 and only increases with activity.

If I start watching a video on youtube it can get into the 70's and while playing pretty much any game it's usually anywhere from 75c to 95c but is usually in the mid to high 80's. Now I will say that my cooler is definitely due for some new thermal paste as it's been about 4 and a half years and is still running stock paste, so I'm hoping that it's maybe just that.

The list of thing's I've tried, messed with, or checked are
Updated bios
Updated Chipset drivers
Virus scans
Power plan setting's
Removal of dust from cpu cooler heatsink
Checked if cpu fan was working correctly
Checked if case fans were working and installed right

I know that isn't really a lot probably but I'm not the most tech savvy and thinking about all the thing's that could be the cause overwhelms me a bit.
Now you may have noticed that I've still yet to try getting new paste and reseating the heatsink and that's because I will be getting a new cooler soon so I felt like I may as well just wait till then.

I felt this was worth mentioning as well, I have a friend who has a very similar build to mine (everything the same except gpu and mobo.) run core temp as I had noticed my cpu's wattage seemed to be real high as I was getting around 45 to high 60's watts while my friend under the same load if not lighter was at about 20 to maybe 30 watts for their cpu. Don't know if that's significant but I thought it was worth adding.

Also I am aware that ryzen cpu's run warm but I felt like this was a bit much especially if I'm just watching videos or something. hoping it's just a cooler issue but I'm not smart enough to know if something else may be wrong.

UPDATE: After removing a side panel and both of the magnetic dust filters the temps went down a bit, at least while under heavy load. General use temps are still the same pretty much. I also looked into setting my clock speed and voltage manually so I'm now at 1.325v at 3.9ghz for all cores or at least all except for one. For some reason one of the cores is at 3.1ghz is that normal or could that indicate some sort of fault? idk if doing this is a dumb idea or not.

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

So my pc has a 2600x with a b450 aorus m mobo, Coolermaster q300l case with 2 fans on the front pulling in and one fan on the top rear exhausting, RTX3060, 500w PSU. Also running stock cooler.
You might want to see if the system's temps drop when you;
a| remove all side panels
and
b| have the innards breadboarded

The case in itself was known to be a hotbox by reviewers. To add, you're on the stock cooler + the thermal paste is probably crusty and needs a reapplication. Add all of them and you have the temps you're seeing. If you had a case with a better front panel design and an aftermarket cooler, you'd be seeing lower temps while idle and when taxed.

 

[Loycera]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

So my pc has a 2600x with a b450 aorus m mobo, Coolermaster q300l case with 2 fans on the front pulling in and one fan on the top rear exhausting, RTX3060, 500w PSU. Also running stock cooler.
You might want to see if the system's temps drop when you;
a| remove all side panels
and
b| have the innards breadboarded

The case in itself was known to be a hotbox by reviewers. To add, you're on the stock cooler + the thermal paste is probably crusty and needs a reapplication. Add all of them and you have the temps you're seeing. If you had a case with a better front panel design and an aftermarket cooler, you'd be seeing lower temps while idle and when taxed.

I see I see, I will try taking off the side panels then.

can't say I'm familiar with the term breadboarded though if you don't mind explaining.

 

[Karadjgne]

As said, you have an oven for a case, there's very little you can do about that, it has such lousy airflow characteristics that heat just doesn't really move with any alacrity. Strike One.

Stock cooler. Quite decent, actually very decent compared to previous stock coolers offered by AMD, Intel or any of the big-box names like Dell, HP, Lenovo or Gateway etc. But the fact remains it's still a stock cooler that's designed around holding performance in check for normal usage, not extreme usage demanded by gaming. Strike Two.

It's a Ryzen, not a 1-12th gen intel. Throw anything about what you believe about actual temps out the window and start from scratch. Ryzens don't respond, behave, think or act anything like Intels, only the results are the same. Strike Three.

So. Normal temps in that box, with that cooler, you'll be looking at @ 50-60°C as common idle temps and 70-80°C as common light working temps. But here's the biggest difference between amd and Intel, amd will judiciously use the brake pedal as temps would normally rise, lowering core speeds and resultant voltage/amperage use to maintain a specific temp range, whereas Intel would let the temp run high and suddey slam on the brakes and chop performance like a brick wall.

Meaning you'll no doubt see 80°C+ when gaming, but it's not a dangerous temp because Ryzen are self monitoring and self adjusting, the only thing actually affected is performance, but you'd not see that at all without better cooling, and even then you'd still see the same temps, just better performance.

 

[Loycera]

As said, you have an oven for a case, there's very little you can do about that, it has such lousy airflow characteristics that heat just doesn't really move with any alacrity. Strike One.

Stock cooler. Quite decent, actually very decent compared to previous stock coolers offered by AMD, Intel or any of the big-box names like Dell, HP, Lenovo or Gateway etc. But the fact remains it's still a stock cooler that's designed around holding performance in check for normal usage, not extreme usage demanded by gaming. Strike Two.

It's a Ryzen, not a 1-12th gen intel. Throw anything about what you believe about actual temps out the window and start from scratch. Ryzens don't respond, behave, think or act anything like Intels, only the results are the same. Strike Three.

So. Normal temps in that box, with that cooler, you'll be looking at @ 50-60°C as common idle temps and 70-80°C as common light working temps. But here's the biggest difference between amd and Intel, amd will judiciously use the brake pedal as temps would normally rise, lowering core speeds and resultant voltage/amperage use to maintain a specific temp range, whereas Intel would let the temp run high and suddey slam on the brakes and chop performance like a brick wall.

Meaning you'll no doubt see 80°C+ when gaming, but it's not a dangerous temp because Ryzen are self monitoring and self adjusting, the only thing actually affected is performance, but you'd not see that at all without better cooling, and even then you'd still see the same temps, just better performance.

I see, I removed one of the side panels and both magnetic dust filters and have already seen a decent improvement under heavy load. Is there perhaps a better but not too bank breaking case you could recommend for a future upgrade?

 

[35below0]

How much is too much? Where are you shopping?

There are dozens of alternatives. Phanteks XT Pro is one of the cheap and decent ones. https://www.phanteks.com/XT-Pro.html

 

[NedSmelly]

I suspect a repaste, along with running without the dust covers, should do the trick. I'd also try a better aftermarket cooler before doing a case transplant.

 

[thestryker]

You'd probably be best off buying a tower cooler which would be far better than stock and it would improve case airflow. Depending on where you live this can be fairly inexpensive with Thermalright Assassin X 120 V2 or Deepcool AG400 (my preference would be Thermalright).