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links? what's that can u eat it?

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trust me. u dont want to know
okay dude
*opens door*
i already open the door for u... u gonna leave? ur letting the heat go out!

RIP Block Heater....HELLO P4~~~~~
120% nVidia Fanboy+119% Money Fanboy
GeForce 6800 Ultra--> The Way we thought FX 5800Ultra is meant to be played
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Dude...you arent even a programmer..and this is getting old. What do you program? what language do you program in? more importantly...what compiler do you use?
Give us a working example of some of your work!...a working example, with proof that it was hand written by you!
<b>you wont do any oof the thing's I asked</b>, because your just a little punk that cut and paste's stuff from knowledgable peoples post's or articles.
post pics of your volt modded video card's, or your X800, or your 6800. You are a freaking liar.
Last post.

<A HREF="http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf" target="_new">All your base are belong to us.</A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=2216718" target="_new"><b>3DMark03</b></A>
 
come back here at once! we haven't finished flaming him yet


RIP Block Heater....HELLO P4~~~~~
120% nVidia Fanboy+119% Money Fanboy
GeForce 6800 Ultra--> The Way we thought FX 5800Ultra is meant to be played
THGC's resident Asian and nVboy 😀
 
LOL in about 4 months Unreal 3, Half life 2, Crytek, Doom 3 are going to old news! Just wait you will see.

Best part of it all our technology runs on ATI and Nvidia equally well with everything going full blow. Doesn't even NEED DX9C shader 3.0 support to do what Unreal 3 does!

Patinence grasshopper.
 
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Dude...you arent even a programmer..and this is getting old. What do you program? what language do you program in? more importantly...what compiler do you use?
Give us a working example of some of your work!...a working example, with proof that it was hand written by you!
you wont do any oof the thing's I asked, because your just a little punk that cut and paste's stuff from knowledgable peoples post's or articles.
post pics of your volt modded video card's, or your X800, or your 6800. You are a freaking liar.
Last post.
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You wanted me to show you the math behind why Nvidia was doing more I did, and you still ingore it

SELECTIVE MEMORY

Remember this?

Do I have to tell ya what 1+1 is?

AA and AF lets start with the basics

Bilinear filtering vs trilinear filtering.

Whats the calculation difference?

each pixel x about 2 for the gpu consumption
this cause 2 times the fill rate consumption?
Not exactly damn close to it

each pixel x about 3 for the gpu consumption
this cause 3 times the fill rate consumption?
Not exactly

Now take into the fact you have x4 aa and x16 af

What do these really mean?

Do you know or should I spell that out for you too

Its how many times each pixel is being sampled

This is why bandwidth is so important. Fillrates get burned.

Any of these factors if you reduce by even a fraction you save a butt load on fill rates.

Do you get the math or do I have to write it all out for you?

Bilianear calculations ver Trilinear caluclation ratio lets use 1024x786 for screen res (804864 pixels)

2x8x16= 256 x 804864 pixels = 206045184

3x8x16= 384 x 804864 pixels = 309067776

Now compound the fact ATI is using 96 bit precision where Nvidia is using 128 bit.

THis is very publically know when Nvidia introduced thier 5800 line with full 128 bit percision. Nvidia tried to bank on it. Didn't go far cause the 5800 was crap.

If the gamecude does 128 bit why doesn't the 9xxx series do it too?

What happening here? You tell me which cards are doing more work.

Btw ATI isn't the only one to cut corners. But these were already public domain so I can state them.

Go ahead and figure out the MATH man cause for me to sit here and explain it to you will take me over 3 months of teaching you basic 3d chip design and 1-2 year college math :/

Man all ya had to do was ask me to explain myself. Intead of going through the useless soliloquy


Edited by entium on 05/24/04 10:57 PM.
 
That was the answer I was expecting from you.
Your now on my /ignore list. I suggest others do the same.

<A HREF="http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf" target="_new">All your base are belong to us.</A>
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Ya can't deny the math soooo sad

yep that why this forum is full of crap, well some people anyways, too ingorant to see the facts when its spelled out for them!

The funny thing is you did ask for it and I did show it to you now you tell me shut up since you can't disprove what I was orginally talking about was true!

33% less :)
is 2/3

which I got 206045184/309067776= 2/3

Still doesn't take in account for the pricision thing

which is 2^96 where as nvidia is doing 2^128

But since ATI has alot less resistors it off sets that.
 
My oh my. Lookie what I missed while on vacation. I just chewed up well over an hour reading all this. I don't know what cracks me up more, 1) a programmer who can't figure out how to post a 3dmark03 score, or 2)a Dr. who doesn't have time to post a 3dmark score but has plenty of time to go from stranger to Journeyman while trying to save face. Very comical indeed.

Anyway, it's nice to be back. I did want to comment on the cheating thing, but honestly after reading where this thread has gone to now, why bother. Now I need to clean the popsecret butter off this keyboard before bed.



ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200LL, Radeon 9800 Pro, Santa Cruz, TruePower 430watt
 
*passes pauldh popcorn*

join the fun

RIP Block Heater....HELLO P4~~~~~
120% nVidia Fanboy+119% Money Fanboy
GeForce 6800 Ultra--> The Way we thought FX 5800Ultra is meant to be played
THGC's resident Asian and nVboy 😀
 
Paul, do the math, the guy passing the popcorn didn't ya hear Paul already dropped it his hands much have too much vasaline on them.

Oh yeah Also keep reading I told ya why I couldn't post them yet. I will once I rehook my network up differently


Cool why don't you go through the math too? its only 7th grade algebra, nothing to complex for a simplton

Don't think I spelled simplton right :)
 
Paul....we've missed you :wink:

<A HREF="http://rmitz.org/AYB3.swf" target="_new">All your base are belong to us.</A>
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Vaseline? Is that the full name of that girl Val you've been dating?

I have usually stayed 99+% away from flaming, but with you I couldn't resist. You came in on a high horse talking big and arguing with people who have proved themselves to this forum. And at the same time spewing obvious lies at the same time. Anyone who who for a second think a R9800XT at stock speeds could pull 8K in 3dmark03, is a freaking GPU ignoramous-maximus. And to then after loads of requests for a link, you go and say that since other people are doing it, why not just believe me. That was comical. Truely, thx, I enjoyed it.


Why do you keep pressing the math issue? Do you think anything you posted taught anyone anthing? Stick to the 3dmark blooper real, I found that to be way more interesting.

Oh yeah Also keep reading I told ya why I couldn't post them yet. I will once I rehook my network up differently
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Yeah I did read that. Maybe we can get a "programmer wannabe" to help you with that. :wink:







ABIT IS7, P4 2.6C, 512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200LL, Radeon 9800 Pro, Santa Cruz, TruePower 430watt<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Pauldh on 05/25/04 11:02 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Then who's scores did I look up ? I clicked on the URL...hmm, Gary becomes even more confused and dazed then normal. Well those scores are far far better than mine, I'm getting 5800 on my 9800 pro 3D mark 2003.

WTF, well sorry Dude, confusion once again reigns surpreme.

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
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Its seriously over clocked :)

I told ya ya can do some serious stuff with old technology.

Graphics Card companies are like Automobile companies, they don't want to let you know what is truely possible

I'll post mine up soon in the next couple of days :).

Right now in the final build of one of our demos so I can't swap comps on the network yet
 
whatever dude
ARE U GOING OUT THE DOOR! I SUGGEST U DOING SO!

RIP Block Heater....HELLO P4~~~~~
120% nVidia Fanboy+119% Money Fanboy
GeForce 6800 Ultra--> The Way we thought FX 5800Ultra is meant to be played
THGC's resident Asian and nVboy 😀
 
I agree, but it takes two to argue and when the insults continue to fly from one to another you have to ask yourself why are they taking it all so seriuosly, and so publicly ? If they were serious, truly serious about resolving this issue they should exchange phone numbers, call each other up and thrash it out that way instead of using up bandwith with a lot of name calling and finger pointing which is getting nowhere.

Oh well, can't have everything I suppose...

Gary

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<font color=red>AMD 2700 XP<font color=red>
<font color=red>Gecube 9800 pro Extreme<font color=red>
<font color=blue>ASUS A7N8X deluxe<font color=blue>
<font color=blue>1024 meg Dual Channel DDR 3200<font color=blue>
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