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You're a first time overclocker with an elaborate watercooling setup that covers your RAM, and you've doubled the voltage? But you're a first time overclocker, right?

It's funny, most first time overclockers try for a couple mhz on the core, they don't buy the most expensive and technically challenging watercooling setups available. Oh, and when people are starting out, they generally don't solder resistors on their videocard and double the voltage to their memory.

Jesus christ Entium, that is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Seriously.
This is the part where lies start backfiring on you and the house of cards your whole story is based on collapses into the $hit pile from whence it came.


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<b>Radeon <font color=red>9700 PRO</b></font color=red> <i>(o/c 333/343)</i>
<b>AthlonXP <font color=red>~2600+</b></font color=red> <i>(2400+ @ 2145 Mhz)</i>
<b>3dMark03: <font color=red>4,876</b>
 
Its not like I havne't overclocked amps and things like that before. Its the same thing, but computer components are a bit more sensitive. Tell ya what I can send ya some screenshots of it will that make you happy?

I was doing this to try to prove a point, which I messed up on the test. The 9800 can't peform as well as the x800 that point came across right? Simple enough.
Overclocking with water cooled devices isn't hard, its reducing temperatures so that resistance in the sub micro lines decreases. Allowing more electricity to go though its circuts not hard to read the manual that came with the overclocking unit 😛. Its almost as easy as plugin and play for the part. I could make my own system that will work on freon instead of water. the only thing you have to becareful of is condensation.

BTW I said that this was my first time a while back if ya didn't catch back it then.

Also said this was the first time I've ever benchmarked.

I wouldn't have done it if GW and Grape weren't so adement about thier stance on SUPERIOR ATI TECHNOLOGY.

Also that 2001 benchmark wasn't mine either just to clarify things. Which I was refering to one someone else overclock on 3dmark01.

Anywho we kinda went off the topic didn't we?



Found out why I can't post them up that system's fire wall is blocking it and I can't really remove it since its in the network hub. And since that system has some senstive code I can't really give access to it. Gimmi a couple of days, I'll hook the network a bit differently
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by entium on 05/25/04 08:05 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
ATI is doing 33% less the calculations and using adaptive filtering (which is even more then 33%).

Point proven.

Was that what I was getting at with my math: 2/3 ?

Cheers!
 
Which consiqently really doesn't matter with today's games but will very soon.

Stalker, Far Cry already support Dx9c and I wouldn't be suprised if Carmack uses NV specific Ogl paths for Shader 3.0 model for Doom 3. Its not hard to add those in maybe a week or so.
 
Tim Sweeney, Epic Games
For games shipping in 2003-2004, the multiple precision modes make some sense. It was a stopgap to allow apps to scale from DirectX8 to DirectX9 dealing with precision limits.

Long-term (looking out 12+ months), everything's got to be 32-bit IEEE floating point. With the third generation Unreal technology, we expect to require 32-bit IEEE everywhere, and any hardware that doesn't support that will either suffer major quality loss or won't work at all.
 
shhhh that can wait for later

*passes popcorn to hardware boss*

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1. u dont have a phd from MIT. You can't even spell correctly. Beside people with PHd dont waste their time here. Also you just dont have the knowledge they would have
2. 10000 in 3d2k3? ya with liquid nitrogen maybe? u don't have that so STFU
3. water cooling ur ram?hahahahaha.. did u get ur friend to custom make u a ram water block? oh wait that doesn't make shiit sense
4.double ur voltage? that is the biggest BS i've heard yet! u have more bs than rammjet was here
5. firewall blocking wha?? stop bsing u can't come up with a result like that
6. even IF u have a dev-mode 9800 card, the GPU and RAM o/c limit still exists so 10000 without liquid nitro? good luck
7. u dont have to make 10 posts to get a idea across no one cares about ur opinion anyways
8. get lost stop wasting forum space
9. o/c computer component is different than ocing amps u retard, when u get layers and layer of print circuit board, its kind of different.
10. screen shot? u can photoshop those anyday. Hey cleeve u want a screen shot of my 9600pro scoring 100000?
11. ur worse than poppy!
12. stop trying to make urself sound smart with all ur so called PHds and experience, from the way u talk and discuss things, ur not even close to being a PHd student.
13. STFU GTFO and DCBA
14. u are so full of it = ="
15. no one likes u go away
16. dont make me get DH to jump on u!
*passes Grape and GW brooms*
SMACK HIM OUT!!!!

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No no your missing the point I said it can pass for later, But Nvidia's structure is set up to do everything at 128 bit precision. Its doing more work uneccesarily hehe. Games don't really support it yet. But they are going to very soon. The game and engine we are working on right now is going to fully support because there is a major boost in speed. It isn't even funny the over of displacment maps have on cards that are sub shader 3.0.

Over all there is a 40% drop just because of using them.

The structure of hardware tesselation and displacment mapping on all models goes like this (simplified)

Pass 1

Vertex shader
Tesselate
Texture lookup with Pixel shader

Pass 2
Vertex shader 2
Displacment
Pixel shader
lighting per pixel

Nvidia's 6800 can do the texture lookup in the same pass as the tessalation and dispalcement

It look more like this
Pass 1
Vertex shader
Tesselate
Texture lookup with Pixel shader
Vertex shader 2
Displacment
Pixel shader
lighting per pixel

This is what I ment I was only scratching the surface Performance wise there is no way ATI will match Nvidia in FarCry, if and only if the did use Tesselation and displacment maps. Not really sure if they did :/. And that all comes down to the fact that it takes 2 passes.
 
This community does really suck, good buy, See guys at shits end freaks! Also just got the 6800 in today :), and ATI just sent the x800 too. Do I have to say more?

Morans that don't know [-peep-]. Damn canucks, if it wasn't for the U.S you guys wouldn't have balls to do anything!
 
Yay!!...go Coolsquirtle!!! :lol:

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does that mean ur going to ignore urself?? oh wait ur just a retard, do u really think ur so cool because u have X800 and 6800 = = get a life.

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havn't left yet GW, lol, wanted to say one thing are ya guys going to be at Tom's Expo? if ya are I'll cya there in person!

And make sure you bring your f*ckin brains
 
so u can steal it from us to fill up ur empty head?

and yes i saw what ur trying to get at.

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Get off your damn game playing and if ya want to talk about something that you feel like you were decieved or not find out about it first will ya!

Then make your choice about which card is best for you, Don't prejudge either technologies and say one is better then the other.

They are pretty much equal when it comes down to number cruching. But the end of it all Nvidia won this round by adding more features that will be usable
 
This is the part where lies start backfiring on you and the house of cards your whole story is based on collapses into the $hit pile from whence it came.
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I'm so proud..



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i thought u were leaving. Nobody is stoping you

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it was such a touching speech

*sniff sniff*
pass me a tissue will ya

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Proud of what?

you are so immature

you can't see 10 feet infront of you,

STILL CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE MATH AND I WROTE IT OUT FOR YOU!

WHY DON'T YOU DISPUTE THAT?

YOU DON'T dipute it because you can't you probably did what Calc 1 at most it even that. Probably got a C in it if you did.

CHALLENGE MY ABILITY AS A 3D programmer!

I will wipe you clean and spit the bones out.
 
Has this entium guy provided any links or photgraphs of anything he's been bragging about to anybody yet?

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