ATI Radeon 6000 seriers rumor to be released in october

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http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour...schedule-first-iteration-in-october/9688.html

Popular Turkish website Donanimhaber has released an expected schedule for the release of ATI's Radeon HD 6000 series. The first HD 6000 GPU to be released will be the Radeon HD 6700 series, codenamed Barts. The HD 6700 is scheduled for a release as early as October. As suggested by the nomenclature, the HD 6700 will directly replace the HD 5700 series.

The HD 6700 release will be followed up by Cayman in November, expected to be branded as the ATI Radeon HD 6800 series, replacing the current HD 5800 series.

The flagship will be Antilles, and branded as the ATI Radeon HD 6970. Antilles, as expected, will be a dual-GPU Cayman. While the HD 5970 lowers clock speeds from the HD 5870, HD 6970 is expected to feature the same clock speeds as the HD 6870 - basically a HD 6870 in CF. This will be much like the HD 4870 X2. The Radeon HD 6970 is scheduled for December.
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then theres the rumour about amd rebadging the 5770 as the 6770. in that case, the 6770 would be called the 6870, which then makes sense in terms of performance increase and efficiency. would that mean the 6800 series would be considered mid range?

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/news/34-amdati-grafikkarten/1491-amd-bald-mit-rebranding
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If that is true then it is a big fail on ATI's part seeing how that scam fared for Nvidia. Sure people were fooled the first round but not since. The Rebrandus continues.
 
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http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/12713-fler-detaljer-om-radeon-hd-6850&sl=auto&tl=en

That slide showing 6770 and 6750 was a confirmed fake, and this is out now. Info seems very much in line with everything thats been said, so this looks relatively valid, but no guarantees. The 6750, possibly being called 6850, seems to perform somwhere between a 5830 and GTX 460 1 gig, but only needs 1 6 pin, and seems to be selling at a lower price by far.
 
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A 6770 @ almost 500.00$ is nonsense no matter how fast it is. Rumors state that the 6770 will be in between the 5850 and 5870 performance-wise so this tells us that it cannot cost more than 375/400.00$.

I really doubt that AMD will sell next-gen GPU's at such high prices, the whole purpose of AMD launching the first rollout of 67xx series cards (this early) is to combat NV's 460 domination in that price segment. Personally I think that the 6770 will not even reach 300.00$, the 6850 should be in the 400.00$ bracket and the 6870 should be in the 500.00$ bracket. You have to remember that these will be 40nm GPU's which will offer higher performance compared to currently available Radeon 5xxx “Evergreen” line, but will hardly be considerably more advanced in terms of feature-set. "It is reported that designers of the new GPUs concentrated mostly on improving efficiency, but not on building something completely new from scratch".

If the 6770 were to cost 500.00$ then that would mean that the upcoming dual "Cayman" (6970) would cost roughly around 2k which is absurd.
 
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http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/12713-fler-detaljer-om-radeon-hd-6850&sl=auto&tl=en

That slide showing 6770 and 6750 was a confirmed fake, and this is out now. Info seems very much in line with everything thats been said, so this looks relatively valid, but no guarantees. The 6750, possibly being called 6850, seems to perform somwhere between a 5830 and GTX 460 1 gig, but only needs 1 6 pin, and seems to be selling at a lower price by far.
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How are you concluding power/price or performance from that link ?
Lower price by far VS what ?
I see a picture of a video card with 2 power connectors and a slide with ? for tdp ?
 
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6850 you say? As if a card that performs similar to a 5830 or GTX460 would make it into the middle of the next-gen 6800 lineup? No. Just no. If anything, it's a 6700-series card at best. The current 5850 and 5870 out-class it... Why the hell would AMD even consider a weaker 6800-series? LOL

And LOL dalta. Good call on the probable merge.
 
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You dont understand. This will sound like fanboy to the max, but this is right from the mouth of AMD. Barts appears to be performing so well, that they will rename what would be the 6750 and 6770 to 6850 and 6870. Then they make what would be a 6850 a 6950, and a 6870 a 6970. Antilles, the dual one, is set to be 6990. Its just renaming, in a way your right, that really isnt what we think of a 6850, its just called that. Its really the 6750, which is why i have the "6750/6850" to avoid confusion. And yes, im sure, merge is imminent.
 
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Ares, can you provide an AMD source (mouth?) for this change?

I can see it now... The uninformed and/or layman Best Buy customer buying cards based solely on the number on the box, thinking a 6850 must be better than a 5850, when in fact the 6850 might actually perform more like a 5830. It may serve them right for not doing the research, but a change like this would go against prior naming schemes.

Now we're to expect the x9xx cards to deliver top-tier performance? Back to the old 1900XT and 2900XT days, huh? And man... I really hope that they don't decide that a 6970x2 actually be called a 6990... I actually preferred the x2 moniker for dual-GPU cards as opposed to the current 5970 crap.
 
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The dual 450 card makes sense and even a dual 455 could work without going over the magic 300 Watts. Its been touted for some time and even if it wasn't people who have been involved in and around graphics would expect it anyway.
The Fabrication issues with ATI and having to stick to the 40nm process were reported way before the 460 was released and any suggestion that they "had" to do it in response to Nvidia is pure propaganda as far as im concerned.
The performance of the cards seems to go up a number anyway so a 67XX card should perform around about the old 58XX series and so the 66XX series should be similar to the 57XX series.

Mactronix
 
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I think they said so in the article? If not, there are 20 others saying it, and its been a rumor going around for a while. At first i didnt believe it, but apparently its true. And yeah, id prefer they keep it the old way. It might avoid confusion, and then it will just be easier. Apparently, 5770 will be refreshed, improved, and then shipped out as the 6770, but thats also just a rumor. The release date for these has been anywhere from October 10-20th. Then what we would call the 6870, now to be called 6970 is released around Christmas, or very early 2011. These are also apparently the Northern Island chips, and the 28nm shrink will be called Southern Island, contrary to what was believed earlier.
 
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What? Like renamed and rebadged?
 
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Whats been rumoured is a 256 bit bus, but i recon it will be 192 personally that way they can leave the clocks alone and people wont get too much of an OC out of the card. I have seen some say it will have 700 ish clocks but that leaves a lot of room and performance theoretically available which flies in the face of how AMD do business these days.

FudZilla recon the XT version of barts will be pitched against the 460 and wouldnt be surprised if it competes with the 5830 or even the 5850. Well guess what so does the 460 :lol:

Mactronix
 
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This merger stuff is confusing me now :lol: And not quite. Remember that slide showing the 6750 and 6770 a bit back?

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This is not like the 8800-250 GTS rebranding, this is just similar. As you can see, they seemed to have bumped it up to 256 bit, which may or may not be true, added 160 shaders and the corresponding 8 TMU, and doubled the ROP count. This might just be a fake, but the "6770" should have specs similar to those. Although maybe not the 256 bit. I, personally, think this slide is a fake, and as it doesnt make much of any sense, but we will see. Parts of it line up. If i had to guess, id guess the ROP, shaders, and TMU are right, but it will be 128 bit, lower than 150 watt power consumption, and it wont be called barts. Think of it like a 5790 i suppose.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series

can we believe this? or are they prices inflated ?
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That looks like absolute BS to me. For one, it really seems AMD is going thru with the new naming scheme:

http://www.guru3d.com/news/ati-might-rename-radeon-5570-to-6770/

(a little more proof for the non believers :lol: ) and it got the names wrong. Next, that GPU-Z screen shot looked very accurate, or it was one of the most impressive fakes ive seen, but either way, it DEFINITELY have the memory clock wrong. 6870, renamed 6970, was suppose to be at 850/1600, not 850/1100. Thats even lower than cypress. Die size looks way too big, AMD said 10-15% bigger die size, so 334x1.10-1.15, and you arrive at 367-385, not 410 like it said. Memory is suppose to start at 1 gig for the 6970, and then 2 gig models be more popular than in the past. AND THE BUS IS AT 512!!! Absolute BS, 100%. Thats one of the worse fake leaks ive seen.
 
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Now that the $$$ thread has been merged, some of you guys from that thread may wanna have a look-see at what ares posted about the "6770" actually being the "6870" and then reconsider the price point...

And ares... Guru might wanna rename that article "5770 to 6770" instead of "5570 to 6770"
 
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People should just stick with posting rumours in the current rumour thread, or I could just delete them instead I suppose.
http://image208.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20100915/13/557742492010091513152203.jpg


I'll wait until the final product goes on sale but if it's just a minor tweak and a number change then it's very much like the 9800GTX/GTS250 as far as I'm concerned, I know the ATi faithful will be up in arms claiming that even a slight tweak is some sort of dramatic change but that's to be expected really.
 
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No need to, that is one of THE worse fakes ive seen. For one, they cant do math. If it had a 512 bit bus, it would have an even higher bandwidth. That bandwidth is almost exactly what a 384-bit bus would be at, which was the rumor for a while, but is wrong. Even the amount of shaders is wrong. The only things remotely right on that chart, MIGHT be power consumption, and maybe transistors. Also keeping in mind this fake has the wrong names, so apply the appropriate names. Dont worry, they wont be selling "6770s" named 6870's for $560! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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