ATI Radeon 6000 seriers rumor to be released in october

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Popular Turkish website Donanimhaber has released an expected schedule for the release of ATI's Radeon HD 6000 series. The first HD 6000 GPU to be released will be the Radeon HD 6700 series, codenamed Barts. The HD 6700 is scheduled for a release as early as October. As suggested by the nomenclature, the HD 6700 will directly replace the HD 5700 series.

The HD 6700 release will be followed up by Cayman in November, expected to be branded as the ATI Radeon HD 6800 series, replacing the current HD 5800 series.

The flagship will be Antilles, and branded as the ATI Radeon HD 6970. Antilles, as expected, will be a dual-GPU Cayman. While the HD 5970 lowers clock speeds from the HD 5870, HD 6970 is expected to feature the same clock speeds as the HD 6870 - basically a HD 6870 in CF. This will be much like the HD 4870 X2. The Radeon HD 6970 is scheduled for December.
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I think its either full on renaming, or some decent tweaks. If they double ROP and make it 256 bit, then its a serious change, but from what they are doing, id guess it wont be MASSIVE. As long as the 7670 isnt the 5770, it wont be as bad as NV though :lol: But still, a total rebranding would be seriously frowned upon, even by the AMD fanboys id assume :pfff:
 
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You mean the naming scheme or the possible rebranding of the 5770? They wont be rebranding really any other cards, as they changed the arch of a lot of others. 5770 might be the exception? Even still, the slide showed it getting a pretty healthy upgrade.
 
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HD 6000 is not going to increase more unnecessary shader. Instead it will be an architectural change rather than simply wrap with more shader to increase performance. which under the new design of 4 medium complexity arrangement(4D format)it performs twice as efficient in instruction loading than older design of 4 simple + 1 complex arrangement(5D format)and given 1.5~1.8x increase in performance over the older design. under most of condition, HD6770 is overwhelming HD 5870 by widely margin of 1.3~1.5x performance in benchmark despite HD 5870 has twice number of texture mapping unit(TMU) and ALU shader.
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I cant tell if a Nvidia fanboy made this fake or a AMD fanboy made it... :lol: There it has the 6770, which he has named wrong, beating a 5870 by 30-50%. That is virtually impossible. Id be impressed if it even comes close. My guess is right above the 5850, and thru drivers MAYBE getting within 5-10% of the 5870. And that is for the 6870 (6770). 6850 (6750) has specs almost identical to that of the 5830, but due to reorganization and such, id expect the 6850 to go right on top of the 5830. This would mean that the real 6770, what we would call 6670, possibly rebranded 5770, has no where to go. It cant exceed 5830 performance, and it cant go below 5770 performance, and the 2 perform close enough as it is. In this case, a near entire rebrand, or maybe just some of what the slide said would make sense.
 
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I agree, and I usually ignore the rumor mill until a week or two prior to release. But this time, I'm a little more excited about what's to come since my single 4890 may not provide all the performance I desire in next year's games.
 
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I have a single 4890 too. I promised myself id wait until Northern Islands, but considering AMD renamed this Northern Islands, well.... :sol:
 
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Yeah I told myself that I wasn't going to upgrade my 8800 GTS G92s until the second wave of DX11 cards, and since the 6xxx series is shaping up to be just that I may end up with my first ATI card in 5 years. 😀
 
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:lol: I was going to get a GTX 460, but too late now. Wonder why they have been doing all this name changing, its starting to get really confusing! 🙁 For the record, on that chart, when was the last time you saw a $50 card with a 128 bit bus? Seriously, i think AMD fanboy did the performance, Nvidia fanboy did the naming and pricing, and then a really dumb person came back and intentionally put as much wrong info in as possible. This is why wiki is NOT a source :non: :lol:
 
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Yeah. It all depends on how well my 4890 holds up. But Nvidia needs to compete with 6xxx long enough to get their entire fermi 2 out. If that isnt way before 7xxx, well then the green team has some serious problems. People seem to be impressed with the possible 6xxx performance, but 7xxx is going to be insane by the looks of it.
 
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Probably because AMD seems to have been poised to stop nVIDIA in it's tracks every step of the way since last fall and is showing no signs of anything other than even more of the same.

It's as if AMD sat there and said, "So what the 470 can beat the 5850 in some titles, and the 480 beat the 5870 in others? So what the 460 competes with our 5830? So what the 450 competes with our 5770? Our products have been out for months. MONTHS! AND we've got an entirely new lineup coming out shortly that's gonna whip the pants off ALL of nVIDIA's cards!"

And it appears, they do...

A drag racing analogy: AMD has been crossing the finish line while nVIDIA's still doing it's burnout. But, I suppose we'll see how long that lasts.
 
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Well, i entirely agree with that, its like AMD and nvidia are neck and neck for the finish line, except NV got a 9 lap head start, and over heats before the finish for a very detailed simile :lol: But i was just wondering if he knew anything specific about Fermi 2.
 
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:lol: NV needs to master 40nm before they can make 28/32nm. So my guess either Fermi 2 is a matured 40nm, what should be coming out now, or a likely bad attempt at 28nm. Either way, if it doesnt entirely come out before Q3 2011, which is actually looking right when it might start/be in the middle of, then it has Souther Islands to compete with, and NV is screwed again. Especially if its 40nm.
 
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Well they better hurry if they have something. Like you said, Southern Islands wont be good news for Nvidia. Plus remember the toms article for IDF a day or two ago when the AMD representative said Northern Islands is coming "sooner than you think"?
 
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Hmmm. That would suck if that were true, However that doesnt seem likely, since that would be a little drastic. I mean i understand naming a 6770 as a 6870, but renaming the whole design as another would be like AMD releasing Thuban and deciding to call it Bulldozer :??:
 
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Well, maybe a little. Although we will have to see about the performance. If 6850 beats the 5850 and 6870 beats the 6870, then i suppose its justified. This is just a feeling, but id assume they would be a little reluctant to do that of they didnt. That would just make them look bad. So 6870 beating 5870 seems like a possibility.
 
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I still think they would look better if they didn't rename there cards. Imagine, if the 6770 actually performs like a 5870, then it'd make ATI cards look like tanks compared to nvidia cards, since a supposed to be midrange card (since the 5770's and 4770's and etc were like that) would keep up with nvidias top end. That'd be a good rep for AMD.
 
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Here is another scenario, beyond Nvidia is in BIG TROUBLE. AMD needs a gtx 460 answer. The 5850 is already that card that competes with the gtx 460. Its a little faster at stock clocks, and also overclcocks nicely for real world gains. Just needs to be lower priced.
If this first model from the 6 series is not faster than the 5850, close to gtx 460 price point. Whats the point ? :) imho

Just as I'm trying to pin amd in to a price war , lol it seems they are making price moves.
5870 335.00 and another 20.00 off rebate for 315.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102883&cm_re=radeon_5870-_-14-102-883-_-Product
 
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Im with you on this notty. I dont see any proof of the statement that Nvidia are in big trouble.
The way i see it the 460 blew a big hole in AMD's nice neat slicing up of the price/ performance segments. They can no longer make a card to a set performance target and charge what they want to charge for it as there are now alternatives all the way from the 5750 right up to the 5850 and Nvidia have done all that with 2 versions of the same chip.
Thats all been done without even offering a full fat version of the chip. Why they have not used a full fat chip with all 384 cores i dont know, are they holding them back or is it a yield issue ? It dosent really matter at this point.
Talking about nvidia needing to master 32/28nm is well wide of the mark, its the people who make the chips that need to know how to do it not the chip makers. Sure there are some issues with knowing whats will work better at a set size etc but you would have thought that both sides would talk with the makers, and quite frankly if AMD are churning out 32nm chips then i cant see a 32nm based reason for Nvidia doing the same. It would mean they made a chip where the Arch didnt work on the process and i think they learnt their lesson with that one on the GF100 chips.
Seriously they have a chip in the GF104 that can handle anyting ATI have at present right up to a 5850, allowing for a full fat chip existing which would do so with ease. Even with its 460 core count, value and performance wise its the stand out option.
Give that chip a sucessfull shrink to 32/28nm and whats to stop Nvidia doing what ATI did with the 5 series and upping the core count thus producing a very serious card ? Both camps will make improvements along the way of that im sure.
What im not so sure about is what games we will actually need these huge performance numbers for ?

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