Question B550 advice - is 3600mhz with an R5 3600 worth it?

Greenslade

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I've been holding off buying a new mobo/CPU/ram combo until 550 dropped, because I want an MATX motherboard and I'd like some level of future compatibility.

My plan is to go with an R5 3600 and 32Gb of RAM. I don't intend to do any serious overclocking but I would like to tune everything up a little. I've narrowed down the motherboards to the MSI Mortar and the Gigabyte aorus elite.

Questions:

Am I going to really notice the difference between 3200mhz and 3600mhz dimms if I'm only playing at 1080p on a 1070ti? Assume timings at C18 as going lower than that is outside my budget.

If I did go for 3600, would the more expensive MSI board make it easier to run the DIMMs at this speed or would it make no difference?

If my plan was to upgrade to Ryzen 4000 in 12 months time, do people think the better RAM/Mobo and extra £80 would be a decent investment, or would the marginal improvement mean I should save that money?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
Ryzen 3000 sweet spot is somewhere around 3200/3600MHz RAM. I'd have to imagine that Ryzen 4000 will surely sweet spot at 3600MHz.
The difference depends partially on the CAS latency of each kit. I'd prefer a 3200MHz/CAS16 kit over a 3600MHz/CAS19 one. The other factor is price. If you wait and watch, you can oftentimes reduce the price premium of DDR4-3600MHz to nearly zero (compared to DDR4-3200).
 

Greenslade

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Hi, thanks for the responses so far. I can't really watch that whole video but it looks as if the difference between 3200 and 3600 isn't exceptional. I guess that leaves the question of whether I could get this to work on my mobo and what the price difference is. Would I regret saving £80 and getting 3200 C18 DIMMs and a motherboard with a lower-end VRM? Or to put the question another way, would I get £80 of improvement from going 3600 with the MSI Mortar vs 3200 with the Aorus?
 

Greenslade

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Ryzen 3000 sweet spot is somewhere around 3200/3600MHz RAM. I'd have to imagine that Ryzen 4000 will surely sweet spot at 3600MHz.
The difference depends partially on the CAS latency of each kit. I'd prefer a 3200MHz/CAS16 kit over a 3600MHz/CAS19 one. The other factor is price. If you wait and watch, you can oftentimes reduce the price premium of DDR4-3600MHz to nearly zero (compared to DDR4-3200).
At the moment there's a set of CAS-16 3200 available for just over 120 (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd432g3200hc16cdc01) - however it doesn't seem to be on the QVL list for the Gigabyte board. It is on the QVL for the MSI. The 3600 I was looking at from Corsair is on the QVL for both. Would it be preferred to go for the lower timing, lower speed RAM with QVL support on the MSI board in this case?