I would love it if Bill Gates took over again. I think it would help Microsoft & maybe he will actually listen to us about the Start menu. Also replacing Ballmer pics on all the M$ articles would bring some sense of normal back to Tom's whatever that is. He should be in a movie someday with that crazy look but not a CEO though.
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Good just another reason not to buy sh**ty Windows 8. Not buying it will help it talk and will help get rid of this moron.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE
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To all those saying Windows 8 start menu issues can be fixed by a third party app I have only this. Why should I pay to upgrade my windows 7 to an OS i will have to install third party apps to make it work the way i want?
I am not going to pay $40+ just to get the meagre boot up time decrease.
I am not going to pay $40+ just to get the meagre boot up time decrease.
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I have played with windows 8; is it more responsive ? yes. Is the UI intuitive for desktop users ? no it's not. Touch works on tablets, phones and most hybrids ( AIO ) systems ( and even then the mileage varies with the size of the screen.) If you do color critical work the last thing you need is a finger smudge from all that swiping and gesturing to muck up your screen. I do believe that if you want the Start button the 10meg patch is the way to go or even a different "pointing device" with the likes of Logitech and Waccom.
In my opinion ( even though I have a issue with MacOS ) Apple ( when it came to their mobile platform) got it right.. touch for phone and a pad that allows users to use the gesture mechanism if the user wishes to do so and yet you still have mouse functionality if you are old school.
On the linux front if one used Mint14 or any Debian based system you can use Cinnamon which gives you the start button.. Don't want to go digging into the start button to find the application you want to use ? there is a handy search function. type in the begging letters of the application and it "shows" itself click and you are off and running..
Windows, to some degree has that option too but sometimes the name of a utility or application is not in plane "English" If they focused on THAT option instead of reinventing the wheel Windows 8 would be a much better experience.
In my opinion ( even though I have a issue with MacOS ) Apple ( when it came to their mobile platform) got it right.. touch for phone and a pad that allows users to use the gesture mechanism if the user wishes to do so and yet you still have mouse functionality if you are old school.
On the linux front if one used Mint14 or any Debian based system you can use Cinnamon which gives you the start button.. Don't want to go digging into the start button to find the application you want to use ? there is a handy search function. type in the begging letters of the application and it "shows" itself click and you are off and running..
Windows, to some degree has that option too but sometimes the name of a utility or application is not in plane "English" If they focused on THAT option instead of reinventing the wheel Windows 8 would be a much better experience.
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How many did read that especially they want the mobile platform to do better... The "problem" with win8 is that you can use it without using Metro... So the solution for win9 will be to remove the desktop part from win8 and call it win9... So they can sell more items in their aplication store...
Hopefully it does not happen, but this is what those demanding the Balmer go demand. More mobile devices that use Metro UI and more applications that sell well in application store... *sigh* they are so far for normal user...
Hopefully it does not happen, but this is what those demanding the Balmer go demand. More mobile devices that use Metro UI and more applications that sell well in application store... *sigh* they are so far for normal user...
Windows 8 hasn't tanked, Windows 8 RT has and was always going to tank. What will save Windows 8 is Windows Pro tablets / convertibles once we can actually get hold of them. I've been waiting for the Acer W700, but nobody has any stock! I am personally very happy with the iPad and the Surface RT doesn't offer me anything new. I want a Windows Pro tablet which is powerful enough to run legacy apps at a sensible speed with 8-9 hours of battery life, not a cheap and tacky low power ARM or Atom processor based device with underpowered graphics capabilities. If I'm paying upwards of £1000 for a device it needs to be comparable with none tablet laptops. Tablet manufacturers like Acer have hit the nail on the head for me, but not producing any sufficient quantities to fulfill the demand.
In 24 years I've never seen a Microsoft O/S bomb so badly. Windows 7 is wildly popular why would MS rush to replace it? This has been the worst handled launch in MS history. $1.5 Billion in adverting and what did they get? Dancing tablets how stupid is that. That's fine for a well know product like a MP3 player but not for a new O/S. They should have been bombarding people with the Features and Advantages and the Benefits of Windows 8. Instead you ask anyone what feature in Windows 8 interest them and they give you a blank stare. They have heard about no start button and all the negative but nothing that will help them. What a waste on money and effort they'd better revise their strategy ASAP!
I personally like windows 8. There are a lot of good features (type auto-search, e-mail account linked password protection, auto-share setup for all of my machines, etc...) The number one reason I like windows 8 though is the fact that it fixed my windows 7 issue with my HP envy 14. The graphics card 5660m would not load in and out of power saving correctly in 7. Spent days trying every driver pack out there. Diablo 3 ran at 3-5 fps on lowest settings. I loaded win 8 on the machine and booted it up. Instantly my graphics issue was fixed and Diablo 3 runs at 35-40 fps on max settings.
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stop right there, Kevin. This is a news site and, like it or not, you're a journalist. This isn't your personal blog, I don't give half a crap about your opinion. Give me the facts and let me decide whether or not I agree.
[citation][nom]ohim[/nom]No Start Menu cryes no more : http://www.youtube.com/watch?featu [...] tWAPq3Y0#!and you can pick up between Simple , XP , Vista/7 Style Start Menu.[/citation]
Even Start8 got that "I'm not native" feel. Classic shell is no exception.
Windows 8 is like Linux for beginners. People first download Linux... they *love* it. Hell, it works different, it opens Facebook, it's got Firefox. What else you gonna need?
Then problems may arise. It may be a little uncomfortable to use. (Little note: At this point they may even wander around the different distros.) But here comes the second catch. It makes them different. "Regular people" use Windows. 7. They are not regular.. they are unique. They "know" Linux, as they use it.
Windows 8 is the same. It's uncomfortable, but unique. People like to be hipsters.
So far, I only seen this type using Windows 8. The loud guy at the workplace who always pretends to know things better, yet he fails miserably. The friend who only checks his Facebook. And-so-on. Heck, I even go to my former uni to help out, and all I see is 7. Even students use it, who are free to choose.
Even Start8 got that "I'm not native" feel. Classic shell is no exception.
Windows 8 is like Linux for beginners. People first download Linux... they *love* it. Hell, it works different, it opens Facebook, it's got Firefox. What else you gonna need?
Then problems may arise. It may be a little uncomfortable to use. (Little note: At this point they may even wander around the different distros.) But here comes the second catch. It makes them different. "Regular people" use Windows. 7. They are not regular.. they are unique. They "know" Linux, as they use it.
Windows 8 is the same. It's uncomfortable, but unique. People like to be hipsters.
So far, I only seen this type using Windows 8. The loud guy at the workplace who always pretends to know things better, yet he fails miserably. The friend who only checks his Facebook. And-so-on. Heck, I even go to my former uni to help out, and all I see is 7. Even students use it, who are free to choose.
[citation][nom]internetlad[/nom]stop right there, Kevin. This is a news site and, like it or not, you're a journalist. This isn't your personal blog, I don't give half a crap about your opinion. Give me the facts and let me decide whether or not I agree.[/citation]
[citation][nom]blcskate[/nom]I personally like windows 8. There are a lot of good features (type auto-search, e-mail account linked password protection, auto-share setup for all of my machines, etc...) The number one reason I like windows 8 though is the fact that it fixed my windows 7 issue with my HP envy 14. The graphics card 5660m would not load in and out of power saving correctly in 7. Spent days trying every driver pack out there. Diablo 3 ran at 3-5 fps on lowest settings. I loaded win 8 on the machine and booted it up. Instantly my graphics issue was fixed and Diablo 3 runs at 35-40 fps on max settings.[/citation]
no one is complaining about the INTERNAL improvements. most people hate the new GUI.
[citation][nom]blcskate[/nom]I personally like windows 8. There are a lot of good features (type auto-search, e-mail account linked password protection, auto-share setup for all of my machines, etc...) The number one reason I like windows 8 though is the fact that it fixed my windows 7 issue with my HP envy 14. The graphics card 5660m would not load in and out of power saving correctly in 7. Spent days trying every driver pack out there. Diablo 3 ran at 3-5 fps on lowest settings. I loaded win 8 on the machine and booted it up. Instantly my graphics issue was fixed and Diablo 3 runs at 35-40 fps on max settings.[/citation]
no one is complaining about the INTERNAL improvements. most people hate the new GUI.
Amazing how when Apple changes something everyone flocks to upgrade and loves it but when Microsoft changes something everyone revolts. I think Microsoft is moving in the right direction and hopefully will force laptop and computer makers to start offering more compelling devices, particularly with touchscreens and better displays. I love my Ultrabook but man the display sucks.
I plan on buying a Windows 8 phone and tablet as soon as a few months pass and there's more to choose, particularly the Surface Pro or whatever Windows 8 tablet has a new Haswell CPU in it!
I plan on buying a Windows 8 phone and tablet as soon as a few months pass and there's more to choose, particularly the Surface Pro or whatever Windows 8 tablet has a new Haswell CPU in it!
[citation][nom]dimar[/nom]If only MS could release a service pack to give windows 7 all the windows 8 features, minus the metro UI.[/citation]I don't think most people will take too kindly to loosing their start button/menu, as no start button/menu is a feature of windows 8. But Microsoft is suppose to release performance updates to windows 7 that windows 8 has. Hopefully Steve Ballmer is fired before windows 9 comes out. I don't think windows 8 would of been that big of a flop if Microsoft would of left the desktop alone and made Modern UI(Metro) similar to Media center giving people the option to use it instead of shoving it down our throat's.
Did the picture in the article make any one else wanna punch Steve Ballmer in the face
Did the picture in the article make any one else wanna punch Steve Ballmer in the face
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Outrageous amounts of hate. People are just grasping at things to "Hate" about Windows 8. In all reality it is nearly the same as Windows 7 once you make a few proper UI improvements. The Start menu and so on. My desktop boots up to Windows 8 Desktop. There is no Metro anything anywhere unless I navigate to it.
Anyone who continues to propagate anti Windows 8 hate are fools who don't understand its simplicity.
HOWEVER this is not me saying run out and upgrade. There is nothing that Windows 8 Offers to a desktop power user that Windows 7 doesn't as well. Not yet anyhow. For a laptop user there are reasons to upgrade.
After running Clean installs to Windows 8 on 15 different units we have seen great battery life improvements over Windows 7, by as much as 45 minutes extra under load. It seems the power management software has been heavily reworked in W8. Take this as you will but for a mobile professional 45 minutes may count for a lot.
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Anyone who continues to propagate anti Windows 8 hate are fools who don't understand its simplicity.
HOWEVER this is not me saying run out and upgrade. There is nothing that Windows 8 Offers to a desktop power user that Windows 7 doesn't as well. Not yet anyhow. For a laptop user there are reasons to upgrade.
After running Clean installs to Windows 8 on 15 different units we have seen great battery life improvements over Windows 7, by as much as 45 minutes extra under load. It seems the power management software has been heavily reworked in W8. Take this as you will but for a mobile professional 45 minutes may count for a lot.
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I'll take Windows 7, windows 8 belongs on the same garbage pile as all those AOL CDs! Allthough I'll feel sorry for those poor Maggots gaging on all that Metro/Modern App Store PUSS!
[citation][nom]dimar[/nom]If only MS could release a service pack to give windows 7 all the windows 8 features, minus the metro UI.[/citation]Why would microsoft want to do that? This is like asking Intel to release Sandy bridge on 775 platform. MS are a company out to make money, and keep their shareholder happy they are not gonna patch ur old OS with all the new win8 features.
The biggest mistake they had is not releasing an option to change back to startmenu if u dont like metro. Thats all about it. Windows 8 are great a OS and is superior than win7 in everywhere if they have startmenu. I got 3 copies of win8 and I fix one of them with startmenu. It work the same as win7. I dont see how the hate of win8 come out lol. it is just ridiculous
The biggest mistake they had is not releasing an option to change back to startmenu if u dont like metro. Thats all about it. Windows 8 are great a OS and is superior than win7 in everywhere if they have startmenu. I got 3 copies of win8 and I fix one of them with startmenu. It work the same as win7. I dont see how the hate of win8 come out lol. it is just ridiculous
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