Best Of The Best: High-End Graphics Card Roundup

[volks1470]

yea, I love my GTX 295. Plays EVERYTHING at 1920x1080 quite well. My only complaint is the idle of 55dB with the fan at 38%. Kind of ridiculous. Good thing the sound drowns everything out!

 

[ktasley]

[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]...How about a test suit of the EVGA GTX 295 in crossfire for a quad-gpu configuration? ...[/citation]

Just so you don't look retarded in the future... nVidia = SLI, ATI = Crossfire

 

[bustapr]

So, you guys are always bragging about how Crysis is a GPU pushing card and in the BIG update article for GPU charts you don't bring the strongest game up to date.

And why only 5 ATI cards against 13 Nvidia?
And how didn't you guys see all the rage against DX9 coming?
HELLO?

 

[sid_nag17]

the might of nvdia cards are shown here even in 3dmark 06 the nvdia card scores higher than ati where in the previous reviews ati card has scored higher for rg the radeon 4850 scores lesser than 9800gtx+

 

[warezme]

LOL!, ATI fanboys.., to easy, like poking a stick into and ant bed when an Nvidia card trounces one of their beloved objects of desire..., my precious...

 

[armistitiu]

[citation][nom]JeanLuc[/nom]I am curious though, HAWX is a game sponsored by ATI so why is the HD4890 getting it's backside tanned by the GTX275? It's not just a few FPS behind either the difference is quite remarkable and yes I do realise the BFG GTX275 is overclocked but it's not overclocked by a lot.[/citation]
It's supposed to be better with DirectX 10.1 (check other reviews and you'll see the difference) but as i said this article's benchmarking choices are pretty weird (at least)

 

[MU_Engineer]

[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]The EVGA 295 is the stuff gods game with.I would love that card. I would have to replace my whole system to work it properly however.I want $1500 now

(snip)

Actually... Toms just needs to do a new system building recommendation roundup. I find them useful personally, and would have used it myself had my cash source had not lost his job...[/citation]

"I want $1500 now" and "my cash source had not lost his job?" Jesus H. Christ, kid, you're going to get kicked square in the teeth by real life. You should go out and get a job to learn that it's not so easy to be a "cash source."

 

[MetzMan007]

I think crisis should be in there cause even the gtx 295 has troubles keeping up to 60fps at 1920x1200 and everything on

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Using the attitude seen here, if you dont need a more powerful cpu, why not just use a P4?
nVidia holding back DX10.1 is bad enough, but for you to perpetuate it is worse

 

[boulard83]

BFG GTX285 OC2 (694 core)
Q9550 @ 4.08 (1.275vcore)
4gb G-skill Pi-Black @ 960mhz 5-5-5-18
20691 3Dmark06

 

[jennyh]

Xfire Sapphire HD 4770
Phenom II 940 @ 3.9ghz
4gb standard 800mhz RAM
20544 3Dmark06

Total cost = less than most of those top end cards in this awful article.

 

[genored]

Shit guys stop the whine, This is a Toms hardware review. NVIDIA is always better in tom's reviews. I thought by now you all knew this fact. So stop the EMO RAGE and just accept it. Just go check the real test at xbitlabs or anandtech.

 

[widcard]

I really don't see a problem with the review, ATI has had problems with their drivers forever, and as we can see nothing new about that. If Nvidia had drivers that out of whack we would all hear about it asap. ATI makes a really good GPU and we should all hope that someday they will make drivers to match.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

The lack of AA in certain games at certain res. The lack of DX10.1 in the only DX10.1 game. The chosen games. Hand picked alright.
This review is getting plenty of attention elsewheres, and it isnt good. Lack of ATI choice cards etc etc. Play HAWX on DX10.1, include Crysis, and GRID. Lets see a fair review, and not to have to wait, were coming with that next crap, Ive heard that twice before, and IF it ever happens, it wont be a wide review, but narrow scoped.

 

[hyksos]

The "Prozent normalisiert" chart is the most suspicious thing in this article.

This was obviously manually tweaked to get this ranking, every ATI card get massive hit for no reason. His explanation don't help, it only show that he could do whatever he wanted to the number.

Also, why not a single word on why the ATI card performed so bad on "The Last remnant", this game was put there for one single reason, it's the game he found that had the most performance bias toward Nvidia card, there's obviously a problem with the ATI card, so this game don't represent the real potential of those card.

No DX10.1 in HAWX

No 2560x1600 (ok maybe he don't have a 30" screen to test with), but why no AA in 1920x1200 then??? you are not testing "high end" 800$ video card here???

Probably because ATI get better result then Nvidia when you activate AA in 1920x1200? (ATI seems to need less memory then Nvidia to do its AA, at high resolution it make a difference)

There is a big bias in this whole article, no doubt, but the bias toward NVidia is so ridiculously huge that most people will see it.... maybe this was the goal of the writer??? Maybe he was forced to do a biased review??? Thus he exaggerated the bias so much, that it made the whole review pointless to 90% of the population??

If so, you made a really good job

 

[truehighroller]

@ hyksos


True True, I think you are on to something here. Looks like they pissed off the writer and he made it look ridiculous on purpose.

 

[goonting]

10.1 has advantages...i dunno why we still use DX9

 

[arthemos]

This benchfart is totally fake....
At anandtech and xbitlabs, the 4890 matches the gtx285 in Far Cry 2 and beats it in Fallout 3.Here, it loses against the tiny gtx260.I thought the 4870 was better than the gtx260....or money changed your minds???
Ohh, and how did you get the 4890 to lose against the gtx260 in Hawx?
This site is 100% paid out by nvidia.

 

[madwheel]

Not one single test to show any performance advantage on the ATI cards running DX10.1? I know there aren't many titles out there but try at least one recent title with the DirectX 10.1 to show the difference.

 

[ossie]

It seems AMD/ATI has no money left for TH/BoM ads...
http://www.bestofmedia.com/audience.php

 

[agawtrip]

no openGL game?
no dx 10.1 tests??

 

[Guest]

Very biased review in favor of nVidia.. Poor.. and reminds me why I'm not dropping by TH so much any more.

 

[tamalero]

the ammount of Nvidia variations is staggering...
jeebus, do people really know what to buy with that many names and variations?

 

[tamalero]

[citation][nom]Curnel_D[/nom]Ugh, please tell me that The Last Remnant hasnt been added to the benchmark suite. And I'm not exactly sure why the writer decided to bench on Endwar instead of World In Conflict. Why is that exactly?And despite Quarz2's apparent fanboism, I think HAWX would have been better benched under 10.1 for the ATI cards, and used the highest stable settings instead of dropping off to DX9.[/citation]

they forgot to use the tool called ati crossfire xtension.
the current 9.4 and 9.5 for seven dont recognize the last remnant as a game.
so just force masseffect's or bioshock's crosffire thingie and you will see the game fly.

 

[anonymous x]

funny when all the ati fanboys complain when dx10.1 is not used in HAWX, but when review sites use physx in 3dmark vantage, there are massive complaints about bias....
the reviewer said that dx10 did not work while testing. What do you expect him to do, make up results?
this review is fair IMO
hell, at first I though it was too ati biased as look at the benchmarks-
more of them generally favor ati cards (fallout 3, left 4 dead, hawx, 3dmark 06). Guess new drivers do make a difference.

and LOL at the comments that call for replace the last remnant with crysis, thinking that the ati cards will win there (hey, is that a "the way its meant to be played" sticker on my copy?)
Crysis should be added because it is a gpu stressing game, not for those reasons.
And there's one about adding grid, thinking that it would make the comparison more fair and less "hand picked"
uh huh, when 4850s beat gtx 260s in grid, you can hardly call it an unbiased game.

Have any of you guys tested the cards thoroughly like Tino Kreiss?

All I see is a review where a person benchmarked the cards, posted the results here, and drew his conclusions from the results.

If the names of the cards were taken out, and you had nothing but benchmark results, would you pick a slower card over a faster one assuming they were the same price, had same warranty options etc?

I don't care how low you rate my comment, just when you do, can you please pause for a moment and really think whether if this review is biased, or that you're just letting your personal bias and notions that "big bad nvidia is winning, that's not right" affect your posts.