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Where were the builds for productivity? I only saw gaming builds.
That is harder to define. What kind of productivity? CAD? or that Content Creation category? standard business tasks like using Office? Maybe web development or .net development? Or what about Embedded development using VXworks or Linux? What about FPGA work?

For example, most office tasks will be fine on just about anything. For what I do which is embedded development I want cores and lots of RAM. For content creation, I would want an Intel with a GPU for QuickSink a lot of RAM, and a good Nvidia GPU with a lot of VRAM. It's very much the same as I would want for AI work. I am sure I left out some other productivity tasks, but as you can see, the category of productivity is just too large to deal with it should be broken down into several categories. At least that is my opinion. The ideal development desktop for me would be a 7950 or I9 with at least 64G of RAM, and fast NVM storage (RAID mirror please), and the standard IGPU would be fine. Throw on a Quadra if you want me to do some CUDA work on the system.
If you have a big budget then Treadripper or a HEDT Xeon with a Quadro but I think that I would spend that money on the FPGA folks since it would be overkill for most development I do.
 
Tom's Hardware seems to be focusing more and more on gaming. That is bad. There is a myriad of gaming oriented websites already. I'm a business user, focused on productivity. I couldn't care less about gaming.
What kind of productivity? For your general office work, anything will work including a laptop. Most businesses do not build productivity desktops they buy from Dell or HP. If you are talking about "Content creation" like Video editing and you are using Adobe then get an Intel with as many cores, as much ram, and an Nvidia GPU with as much vram as you can afford. You will also have to get a good monitor and so on.
I am willing to bet you good money that most people building PCs are doing so for gaming or the joy of building one. Notice I said most but not all.
 
I'm going to have to disagree with most of this, to start with all video cards listed are Nvidia, I'm going to guess there was some sponsorship $$$ in these builds??? The 7900XTX (RT excluded) is only beaten by the 4090, and at the price of a 4070ti there should be no consideration for the 4070 or 4080, yet these are in multiple builts in which there are clearly outclassed by a similar priced, and/or cheaper GPU.

All builds are "gaming" PC. The #1 component in a gaming PC should always be the GPU and you build the system around that with your available budget. That being said, many of the builds could benefit by using a cheaper processor and upping the GPU. The thought that you need to have something like a 7800X processor with a 4070ti for a $2000 PC is wrong, use a 5800X (or 5800X3D) with a 4080 or 79800XTX and save yourself some money with a much more powerful rig (for gaming).
 
I'm going to have to disagree with most of this, to start with all video cards listed are Nvidia, I'm going to guess there was some sponsorship $$$ in these builds??? The 7900XTX (RT excluded) is only beaten by the 4090, and at the price of a 4070ti there should be no consideration for the 4070 or 4080, yet these are in multiple builts in which there are clearly outclassed by a similar priced, and/or cheaper GPU.

All builds are "gaming" PC. The #1 component in a gaming PC should always be the GPU and you build the system around that with your available budget. That being said, many of the builds could benefit by using a cheaper processor and upping the GPU. The thought that you need to have something like a 7800X processor with a 4070ti for a $2000 PC is wrong, use a 5800X (or 5800X3D) with a 4080 or 79800XTX and save yourself some money with a much more powerful rig (for gaming).
There's no sponsorship, but there are reasons Nvidia outsells AMD about four to one on graphics cards. Right now, at every price level, you generally end up with roughly similar rasterization performance for the same price, and Nvidia has better ray tracing plus DLSS to give it the win. Other features like AI also matter to plenty of people.

4080 Super or 7900 XTX? Nvidia wins on performance, AMD is $100 cheaper.
4070 Ti Super or 7900 XT? Nvidia is clearly faster, so AMD competes on price again — $100 cheaper
4070 Super or 7900 XT? This time, overall performance is nearly tied (faster rasterization on AMD, faster RT on Nvidia), so Nvidia competes on price — $100 cheaper.

Note also that Nvidia GPUs use less power for every comparison. Sure, it's "only" about 80~100W less (depending on card models), but that can add up. More heat, more noise, more electricity cost.

It's not that AMD cards are terrible or even bad, but it's entirely possible to make the argument at virtually any current price level that Nvidia's GPUs are better. And branding truly does matter to a lot of gamers — I probably get about ten to one in terms of people wanting Nvidia versus AMD GPUs from the people that ask me for advice.

Ultimately, this is an ecommerce piece along with building advice, and thus catering to what people tend to want helps it to perform better for the company.

(And I say all this as someone who does not maintain this page.)
 
There's no sponsorship, but there are reasons Nvidia outsells AMD about four to one on graphics cards. Right now, at every price level, you generally end up with roughly similar rasterization performance for the same price, and Nvidia has better ray tracing plus DLSS to give it the win. Other features like AI also matter to plenty of people.

4080 Super or 7900 XTX? Nvidia wins on performance, AMD is $100 cheaper.
4070 Ti Super or 7900 XT? Nvidia is clearly faster, so AMD competes on price again — $100 cheaper
4070 Super or 7900 XT? This time, overall performance is nearly tied (faster rasterization on AMD, faster RT on Nvidia), so Nvidia competes on price — $100 cheaper.

Note also that Nvidia GPUs use less power for every comparison. Sure, it's "only" about 80~100W less (depending on card models), but that can add up. More heat, more noise, more electricity cost.

It's not that AMD cards are terrible or even bad, but it's entirely possible to make the argument at virtually any current price level that Nvidia's GPUs are better. And branding truly does matter to a lot of gamers — I probably get about ten to one in terms of people wanting Nvidia versus AMD GPUs from the people that ask me for advice.

Ultimately, this is an ecommerce piece along with building advice, and thus catering to what people tend to want helps it to perform better for the company.

(And I say all this as someone who does not maintain this page.)
I did clarify my previous comment to exclude RT, Nvidia is a clear winner here, its not even debatable, but if RT isnt important to the buyer, AMD starts being very attractive and better pricing for the same performance. IE i like to play FPS on a 240hz monitor and a friend makes fun of my because i have a 7900xtx and run games in what he calls "potato" mode where my 1% is like 239 frame rate, lol!

The difference in a 4080 super and 7900xtx is more like $300 ($1200 vs $900), not $100, and if you bought one on prime day the 7900xtx was $800 with a free $70 game, guess when i bought mine and i was trying to decide between the 4080 and 7900xtx myself... Now were at 4070ti super pricing and the 7900xtx is the clear performance winner. Yes the 4080 super does beat the 7900xtx in performance, but were also talking about a card that was just released, 8mos after the 7900xtx with 1 goal, to beat it... in 8mos is amd going to release a 7900xtx super to retake the crown, this is the game the two companies are playing right now and its kind of annoying.

im going to agree with the power, but i have never considered this when buying components. It exist, but does anyone actually care?

I dont agree with the perception and Nvidia being a perferred brand so it influenced the component choices. As an engineer myself, i like the raw data to decide what is best for my needs/wants, i dont want that "data" skewed because 9 out of 10 readers preceive nvidia is better so were going to give them what they want even if it may not be the best for all situations.
 
I dont agree with the perception and Nvidia being a perferred brand so it influenced the component choices. As an engineer myself, i like the raw data to decide what is best for my needs/wants, i dont want that "data" skewed because 9 out of 10 readers preceive nvidia is better so were going to give them what they want even if it may not be the best for all situations.
I'm not saying this is the only reason, but the purpose of ecommerce is to sell items to make money, via affiliate revenue. So, the ecomm team could in theory notice that systems that list an Nvidia GPU generate more clicks than systems that list an AMD GPU, and thus advise, "You should put in Nvidia GPUs because they make more money."

I don't think I've ever heard that exact directive from Future, but certainly there are routine comments and suggestions on ways to reorganize things to try to drive more clicks and make more money for the company. Tom's Hardware isn't quite as bad as other websites in this regard, because we know our readers are knowledgeable and so we give lots of details. But if you look around you'll find a lot of "best GPU" lists where the top picks are all Nvidia, and those are almost certainly an ecomm directive.

Incidentally, I'm pretty shocked at most of the current street prices on the 4080 Super. Like, it's a $999 MSRP, and I didn't think the 4080 was selling well at $1,199. I figured the price correction was necessary. There are routinely one or two models that will show up at like $1,049, but they go out of stock quite quickly.

Who is buying these!? I mean, seriously, the 4070 Ti Super has the same 16GB of memory, and the 4080 Super is only like 15~20 percent faster. Paying $999 for the 4080 Super I can totally see some people doing. $1,300+? Ludicrous! 4090 at $2,000+ because it has 24GB (and can thus run larger AI LLMs), at least makes a bit of sense.
 
Has anyone actually successfully built the $500 build?

It's my first build, and I did some research, and tried to confirm compatibility but ultimately trusted the article. I first put it entirely together. It would turn on for approx. 30 seconds and then reboot until manually powered down. I then deconstructed it and ran a bench test, using only the MOBO, CPU and RAM but the PC still fails to boot. It powers on, and the CPU fan turns on, but it still just restarts every 30 seconds or so. There is no display.

I have cleared the CMOS and I've run through all the troubleshooting that I've learned about, that can be done without spare parts. I've tried multiple monitors. Everything has been seated and reseated, and installed correctly.

My thought is that one of the components was DOA, that the RAM isn't actually compatible or that the BIOS needs to be updated?

Any help or guidance would be much appreciated.
 
Any help or guidance would be much appreciated.
I suggest that you replace the PSU. Thermaltake Smart series is low quality PSU, essentially crap quality PSU.
For proper good quality PSU, look towards Seasonic Focus or Corsair RMi/RMx or Super Flower Leadex series.

Due to this, i have a beef with the entire build article and PSUs suggested in there.

Whether you’re spending $500 or $2,000 on components, we’ve picked out the perfect parts for your next PC build.
Let's get it crystal clear: PSU is the most important component inside the PC because it powers everything!

Almost none of the PSUs suggested for the builds should not be used. :non:
Tt Smart series is crap quality.
Corsair CXm, at best, is mediocre quality, good for office PC but not enough for gaming build.
Corsair RMe is better than CXm but not much.

With this, at best, i'd expect to see Corsair RMe in $500 build.
Starting from $800 build, a good quality PSU, like Seasonic Focus or Corsair RMi/RMx or Super Flower Leadex Gold is suggested.
Fro $1000 and up builds, Seasonic Focus or Corsair RMi/RMx or Super Flower Leadex Gold can easily carry all the way to $2000 build (this included).
But for $4000+ build, i'd expect to see the very best regarding PSUs. Currently, PSU is 2nd most cheapest component in that build. Are you kidding me? :mouais: At that price point, for bare minimum, i'd expect to see Seasonic Vertex or Corsair HXi or Super Flower Leadex Platinum in there, in 1200W range. Whereby Seasonic PRIME ATX 3.0 or Corsair AXi or Super Flower Leadex Titanium in 1600W range is preferred.

It is disgusting to see PSU cheaped out on, in official publication. :vomi:
Don't have enough money to buy better PSU? Easy, buy cheaper GPU/CPU. But never cheap out on PSU!
 
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Corsair CXM is fine enough for budget gaming rigs. A chip like the 5600/5700x, or an LGA 1700 i3 / locked i5 and an RX 6600 would be just fine with a CX650m. The big problem is the price. For $11 more you can get a 750w Thermaltake Toughpower gold with a 10yr warranty. For low budget rigs, I would start there.
 
I haven't built a pc in a long time and there are new components/standards that I am unfamiliar with, so I decided to use the "Best $1,000 PC Build for Gaming" suggested build from https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-pc-builds-gaming. It lists:

Component TypeModelPrice (at Pub Time in USD)
CPUIntel Core i5-14400F$209
MotherboardASRock B760M-HDV$89
GPURTX 4060 Ti$374
RAMCrucial RAM 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 3200$67
StorageWD Black SN770$139
CasePhanteks XT Pro Ultra$69
PSUCorsair CX750M$89
CoolerN/A, comes with CPU
Total:$1,036

I purchased all of the items and ran into a couple of issues connecting the mobo to the case. The Phanteks XT Pro Ultra case has what I believe is a dRGB cable that runs from the fans and a cable that runs from the USB-C port and ends with what I am led to believe is called a Type E USB connector that is supposed to plug into the mobo. I can't find these connections on the ASRock B760M-HDV/M.2 D4. I assumed that these parts were all verified to be compatible, I'm questioning whether my assumption is wrong or am I completely missing these ports on the mobo.
 
cable that runs from the USB-C port and ends with what I am led to believe is called a Type E USB connector that is supposed to plug into the mobo. I can't find these connections on the ASRock B760M-HDV/M.2 D4. I assumed that these parts were all verified to be compatible, I'm questioning whether my assumption is wrong or am I completely missing these ports on the mobo.
It looks like the case supports USB 3.2 Gen 2 and the board Gen 1, but I believe the connector should be the same. It's located below the ATX 24 pin cable.
I purchased all of the items and ran into a couple of issues connecting the mobo to the case. The Phanteks XT Pro Ultra case has what I believe is a dRGB cable that runs from the fans
It doesn't look like there are any RGB headers on the motherboard.
 
I assumed that these parts were all verified to be compatible
Well, they are compatible in the sense that PC turns on and you can boot into OS. However, the underlying rule for these builds is still to fit within set budget. And since anyone hardly verifies if MoBo has all the needed headers for a PC case, you can easily find yourself in the situation where PC case has features that you are unable to use.

but I believe the connector should be the same.
No, it is not.

Phanteks case has USB 3.2 Gen2 type-E(?) connector, to hook up type-C port. MoBo doesn't have USB type-C internal header. Best what MoBo has, is USB 3.0 header.
For that, there are adapters, like this one,
amazon: https://www.amazon.com/JoyReken-Vertical-Socket-Header-Adapter/dp/B08TW9S7B3

Though, strange to see Phanteks calling that cable as USB type-E, since there is no USB type-E. What there are, are USB 3.1 front panel internal cable and connector, which use USB 20-pin connection and are either key A or key B. These are more commonly known as USB type-C internal header/connector.

Or in a nutshell, from oldest:
USB 2.0 internal header (9-pin) - cable - 2x USB 2.0 type-A ports
USB 3.0 internal header (19-pin) - cable - 2x USB 3.0 type-A ports
USB 3.1 internal header (20-pin) - cable - 1x USB type-C port
 
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It looks like the case supports USB 3.2 Gen 2 and the board Gen 1, but I believe the connector should be the same. It's located below the ATX 24 pin cable.
There are 2 USB ports on the top/front of the case: USB-A & USB-C. There are 2 cables coming from the case intended for the motherboard. 1 is an inch or more long, unlabeled, but listed in the manual as "USB 3.0" and plugs in where you describe. The other is unlabeled, but listed in the manual as "USB 3.2 Type C" about 1/2 inch wide & sort of in the shape of a capital "I". This is the one that Google seems to suggest is a "Type E" connector but I can't find a port on the motherboard that matches.
 
Well, they are compatible in the sense that PC turns on and you can boot into OS. However, the underlying rule for these builds is still to fit within set budget. And since anyone hardly verifies if MoBo has all the needed headers for a PC case, you can easily find yourself in the situation where PC case has features that you are unable to use.
Last time that I built a PC, was pentium-ish days & pre- wireless peripherals & SATA, etc. Getting back into it, I was relying on experts that I thought would not mislead me. I've learned a lot doing this so there's that.

No, it is not.

Phanteks case has USB 3.2 Gen2 type-E(?) connector, to hook up type-C port. MoBo doesn't have USB type-C internal header. Best what MoBo has, is USB 3.0 header.
For that, there are adapters, like this one,
amazon: https://www.amazon.com/JoyReken-Vertical-Socket-Header-Adapter/dp/B08TW9S7B3

Though, strange to see Phanteks calling that cable as USB type-E, since there is no USB type-E. What there are, are USB 3.1 front panel internal cable and connector, which use USB 20-pin connection and are either key A or key B. These are more commonly known as USB type-C internal header/connector.

Or in a nutshell, from oldest:
USB 2.0 internal header (9-pin) - cable - 2x USB 2.0 type-A ports
USB 3.0 internal header (19-pin) - cable - 2x USB 3.0 type-A ports
USB 3.1 internal header (20-pin) - cable - 1x USB type-C port
Phanteks did not label the cable, but the manual lists the cable as "USB 3.2 Type C". Based on that description and what I thought that its purpose was, I found it in Google called a Type E connnector. I think that the adapter you listed would work but I already have a "USB 3.0" cable plugged into that socket. I'm guessing that is for the USB-A that is on the front.

So, it seems that I can get a new mobo, or just do without the dRGB feature and one of the USB ports on the front, either the USB-C or use that adapter and go without the USB-A.
 
Last time that I built a PC, was pentium-ish days & pre- wireless peripherals & SATA, etc. Getting back into it, I was relying on experts that I thought would not mislead me. I've learned a lot doing this so there's that.


Phanteks did not label the cable, but the manual lists the cable as "USB 3.2 Type C". Based on that description and what I thought that its purpose was, I found it in Google called a Type E connnector. I think that the adapter you listed would work but I already have a "USB 3.0" cable plugged into that socket. I'm guessing that is for the USB-A that is on the front.

So, it seems that I can get a new mobo, or just do without the dRGB feature and one of the USB ports on the front, either the USB-C or use that adapter and go without the USB-A.
The "Type E" connector is for USB 3.2 Type C ports with 20Gbps support, I believe. Those connectors on motherboards aren't super common on lower tier motherboards, so basically you need to spend more if you want to use that feature on the case. You can use an adapter, but I think that will lose the 20Gbps support (?). High-end boards might have two of those connectors, plus two of the "older" USB 3.0/3.1 connectors. Like on this MSI Z790 board in my GPU testbed:

MSI-USB-3.2-connectors.jpg

Looking around on Newegg for LGA1700 boards with USB 3.2 ports on the board, the cheapest I could find is $124.99... and it's backordered. Which given the age of the platform might mean it's not coming back in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162132

But that's also a DDR5 board, which won't work for the memory you have, so you'd need to go even higher up the motherboard spectrum! This MSI board would work, but it's $169, double price of the B760 board used in the guide. Oof.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144584

Here's a slightly cheaper full ATX board that also has the Type E connector, for $20 less. It should also fit in your case.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144587

Are either of those upgrades worthwhile? Probably not for 99% of people right now. (I'm not even sure I have any USB 20Gbps peripherals... the only things that would really benefit would be fast USB SSDs.) Or there are cases that don't bother with a USB 3.2 20Gbps port and associated connector and just use the older/slower 10Gbps port standard.
 
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Sorry you had a hard time with that suggested build. In my opinion it is actually borderline terrible. Unfortunately it is nigh-on impossible to recommend a one size fits all build for $1000.
A good start would be avoiding the 14400F, the 4060 Ti and crap AsRock motherboards.

In fairness, prices have changed since the article was published. This also doesn't help make it any easier.


Here is the motherboard you should buy: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690 Extreme/index.asp

In addition to all it's other fine features and overall quality, it has 3 ARGB headers and one USB-C 3.2 Gen2x2 Header.

It will have to be flashed before you can install a 14400F CPU in it. But it can be flashed with only a PSU connection. This is a little bit of a hassle for you but once you flash it, you can use your CPU for years, and maybe later stick a 14700K in it. It's too expensive now, but it's good to know you have options.

The reason it needs to be flashed is because it's a previous gen model but it's a flagship z690 chipset model and a very good one. Read the manual carefully and format the USB-stick correctly and you should be alright.
Being a higher end motherboard, it actually has extra features to make flashing it easier.

Everything else you've got is compatible. The extra $125 this motherboard will cost you will be well worth it in the long run.
Had you asked here for build advice, it probably would have been suggested to you.

Tom's just can't keep up with prices changes and hardware changes, and they probably would never suggest pervious gen stuff. Too bad because that $1000 could have been better spent.
 
Sorry you had a hard time with that suggested build. In my opinion it is actually borderline terrible. Unfortunately it is nigh-on impossible to recommend a one size fits all build for $1000.
A good start would be avoiding the 14400F, the 4060 Ti and crap AsRock motherboards.

In fairness, prices have changed since the article was published. This also doesn't help make it any easier.


Here is the motherboard you should buy: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690 Extreme/index.asp

In addition to all it's other fine features and overall quality, it has 3 ARGB headers and one USB-C 3.2 Gen2x2 Header.

It will have to be flashed before you can install a 14400F CPU in it. But it can be flashed with only a PSU connection. This is a little bit of a hassle for you but once you flash it, you can use your CPU for years, and maybe later stick a 14700K in it. It's too expensive now, but it's good to know you have options.

The reason it needs to be flashed is because it's a previous gen model but it's a flagship z690 chipset model and a very good one. Read the manual carefully and format the USB-stick correctly and you should be alright.
Being a higher end motherboard, it actually has extra features to make flashing it easier.

Everything else you've got is compatible. The extra $125 this motherboard will cost you will be well worth it in the long run.
Had you asked here for build advice, it probably would have been suggested to you.

Tom's just can't keep up with prices changes and hardware changes, and they probably would never suggest pervious gen stuff. Too bad because that $1000 could have been better spent.
Personally for a 1k budget build today, this is how I'd do it:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1047.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 13:51 EDT-0400
 
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Personally for a 1k budget build today, this is how I'd do it:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($469.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1047.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 13:51 EDT-0400


I think the only thing I would do differently is the SSD. P3 Plus is a QLC drive. $5 more you can get a 1tb Team MP44 which is TLC, and is bit faster on average, vs a P5 plus.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/teamgroup-mp44-ssd-review

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wX...-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpw001t0c101
 
To be fair, that AsRock Extreme was >$200 and both the motherboard and CPU are previous gen. I just know Tom's cannot push that except as an alternative.
 
I was relying on experts that I thought would not mislead me.
When planning to buy a new PC, better to make dedicated topics in the forums, so that TH experts can help you and fine-tune any mistakes.

Publication articles, for the most part, are written by journalists, who, might be good at writing articles but may not necessarily have good knowledge about PC components and which parts are great fit together. So, such mistakes can happen. Hence why it is better to make a topic in the forums.

I think that the adapter you listed would work but I already have a "USB 3.0" cable plugged into that socket. I'm guessing that is for the USB-A that is on the front.

So, it seems that I can get a new mobo, or just do without the dRGB feature and one of the USB ports on the front, either the USB-C or use that adapter and go without the USB-A.
There is cheap method you can use, to get both USB ports on PC case working. But that requires you to buy 2 adapters and you'll also loose out on USB bandwidth. But at least both USB ports on PC case will work.

I already described how you can get the USB type-C working, by using USB 3.0 to USB 3.1 adapter.
Now, to get USB 3.0 working, you need to buy USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 adapter. This one,
amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Duttek-2-pack-Motherboard-Adapter-Converter/dp/B072ZV1566/

These two adapters are the cheapest and less hassle way to get both USB ports on your PC case working.

Other ways are MoBo replacement. Already described here. Which are more expensive and replacing a MoBo is one tedious thing to do.
 
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I've been coming to Tom's website for insight on COTs parts testing and micro-computer build combinations since it was pretty much just Tom and his motorcycle in the nascent '90s.

The information provided here has always been excellent. So, before I express my present questions, I want to say this site has helped keep me informed of the state of quality of commodity parts and builds, even as my professional career moved away from builds and into enterprise architecture. It's been a go-to source of information for decades among professional IS/IT people. So, thank you, Tom; we are grateful. And thank you whomever else has kept it going all these years.

I just ordered parts for a modified $4K build, from the May 30, 2024 article. I changed a few parts. And, before I open the parts and seal a potentially ugly fate, I thought I would bring my thoughts here. It seems I was hasty. There were some changes:
1) Replaced the Ryzen 9 7900X3D CPU with a 7950X3D (got the 360mm Lian-Li Galahad II Trinity 360mm AIO).
2) Replaced the nVid 4090 with an XFX Spdstr MERC310 RX 7900XTX.
Q1: I think these two will function very well together BUT I wonder if -from a technical perspective- a different MoBo would deliver better performance with this cpu/gpu combination.
3) I ordered the Fractal Design Define XL case, not the North XL. Shouldn't be an issue.
4) I ordered the Corsair RM 1000x in place of the 1000e.
5) These changes brought it to ~$3K vs, $4K, mostly due to the exchange of graphics cards. I'm not a gamer so, this suits my needs.

All suggestions are welcome. Thank you.

A concern:
A) The RAM link took me to an amazon page for G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series (Intel XMP 3.0), which I didn't notice and placed it with my order. Oof.
I'll reorder, but maybe someone can fix this link, please? Thank you.
 
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