Blizzard Cleans House by Letting Go of 600 Employees

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I dont disagree with you. Most successful companies are greedy as hell. Apple literally is the most valuable company in the world yet still outsource their jobs to China. Why pay a worker 25 dollars an hour when you can pay 2 dollars an hour. They are literally sitting on 100 billion in cash. Its just sitting there doing absolutely nothing.

Why would Blizzard be any different?
 
The more people there are on Earth and the more efficient their labour becomes, the lower the percentage of people will be actually required for work.

If you're a dedicated and capable hard-worker, I doubt a company would lay you off. See how Google, Facebook etc. are fighting to grab the good employees from each other.

A cut above the average or don't complain.
 
What is it you guys want from these companies? Dont people start companies to make money? So once you become successful you suppose to only make a certain amount? For every 1 business that succeeds how many have failed?
 
isdav59 was merely responding to the first post here, that seemingly devalued the efforts of the men and women mentioned in the article. Blizzard actually could be value-ing their efforts immensely and be offering very good severance packages. The only way you'll know is if you have a Blizzard employee in the family who is getting layed off.

A business will cut extra weight whenever possible, as that's a drain on the business itself. Small drains like that can add up pretty quick. Hell, businesses are expecting you to subscribe to many small drains. Cable TV, cell phones, data plans, internet, home internet, insurances, rewards memberships, etc. All these things seem small at first, but a few small drains later and 90% of your paycheck goes to sustaining these drains. Likewise, as a business it makes prudent sense to plug such drains quickly to minimize loss.

As far as education goes, systems have been setup to prevent you from quickly changing professions. When you're layed off, educating yourself into a new career takes quite a bit of time, effort, and capital. When you're worried about putting food on your table, you cannot afford to think about taking out loans for an education that may not land you a job. You can still end up without a job simply because there is somebody younger who'll work for less. That's not even taking into the psychological effects a career change can have on you.

With that said, we have seen all too often when greed does take over. When companies no longer value human effort. When a few individuals put their personal wants over the needs of those who helped build their company up. As a business, I want an employee that'll give 110%, and will work in the worst possible conditions. A good way to do that is to make my employee's useless to anybody else. I'll take my doctors, engineers, researchers, technicians, etc. and occupy their minds with how to use my system efficiently only. I'll make my system do all the real work, and teach them how to use my system efficiently. Why? Because they'll be damn good at doing the one thing they are supposed to do, while at the same time reducing my fear of them quitting on me because they don't know how to do anything else. Tis the modern age of large-scale operations, where everything is mechanized and compartmentalized.

I must say that I do agree with isdav59's original post, especially since he was responding to a post that seemingly devalued the effort these men and women put in at Blizzard. Though I myself like to think that Blizzard is a pretty good company, considering the quality of their products and general attitude. They may offer pretty good severance packages. Activision is another story however...
 
You have any idea what it takes to make a company a household name. I cant even imagine what its like to put your heart, soul, time, energy and money into a business only to watch it fail a couple of years later. Now what do you do?

So if any company can make it why shouldn't they reap all the rewards they can get?

Its not like anyone paying failed businesses any money for trying.
 
So when is the federal government going to start firing people since their salaries, benefits, and pensions come from the private sector. Also, what exactly do federal employees do except regulate, ie. push paper? The government produces absolutely nothing yet continues to grow while the private sector has to make sacrifices.
 
[citation][nom]value21[/nom]All i can tell you is it survival of the fittest. We can bitch about our situations or we can do something to change it. America has so many opportunities its ridiculous. Honestly my parents couldnt even afford to send me to college. I join the military and after I got out use the GI Bill.There is no such thing as too old to go back to school. You might have a more difficult time. Sure. You might have to budget you time more. Ok. So what. No one said it was going to be easy. Anything in life worth doing isnt going to be easy.[/citation]

Most of you will simply look at what value21 said with a passing glance and not understand the gravity of his words. For those of you who think you can't change yourselves after a certain period of time or become something greater than what you are, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfA-qNWLBHo

The fact of the matter is you get paid for the value you bring to the marketplace, exactly like value21 is saying. Don't you get it? Don't worry about changing everything around you, just focus on changing yourself. As a very wise man once said "If you will change, everything will change for you."

 
If you were layed off. Why cant you take a job to survive. Then on your off time time work on your degree until you finish it? Isnt the whole point to ensure you dont get layed off again. Even if you get layed off again finding another job wont be so hard with a degree.
 
Just another day of the 1% ruling over the 99% in America nothing new.

Deep you wanna go deep I'll take you deep....Deeper than a page of a book let me look

Deep...Deeper than the rebellion...Deeper than the war waged...Deeper than the bloodshed...Deeper than the liberation....Deeper than the day they signed the declaration...Deeper than the first amendment...Deeper than blood, sweat, and tears...Deeper than the emancipation proclamation...Deeper than gender...Deeper than equality...Deeper than the poor working conditions...Deeper than the union...Deeper than the pockets of corporations...Deeper than lobbying...Deeper than influence...Deeper than political fallout...Deeper than the aftermath... Deeper than the calm after the wind...Deeper the sun after the rain...Deeper than the snow after the blizzard...

 
i didn't even know they had that many employees. I had no idea they were that big. I don't think we even employ 600 people at the university I work at...
 
[citation][nom]value21[/nom]I dont disagree with you. Most successful companies are greedy as hell. Apple literally is the most valuable company in the world yet still outsource their jobs to China. Why pay a worker 25 dollars an hour when you can pay 2 dollars an hour. They are literally sitting on 100 billion in cash. Its just sitting there doing absolutely nothing.Why would Blizzard be any different?[/citation]
Let me ask you something Value. Do you have any money left over after paying your monthly mortgage/rent, food and gas? if you do, by your own definition you are greedy. Have you ever asked for or even just accepted a raise even though your current salary pays your bills? If so, by your own definition, you are just as greedy as the "corporations" you accuse of greed.

Why not do something and put your own livelihood at risk by starting a business, then you will see how "greedy" business truly is.
 
wildkitten you totally missing the point. Why not read all my post before you attack me and pretty much just agreed with what I said. Yes all the successful companies mainly the fortune 500 companies are greedy. Dont kid yourself. Even if its only in the millions that still a lot of money period. But they have a right to be. Thats the exactly point I was trying to make.

And yes I have plenty left over after I pay my bills. Again I put myself through school in order to earn the income I earn. And I expect to earn more as time goes own. My skill level will only increase as I put more time in. Thats my point.
 
Do the math: in the last year Blizzard has lost over 2 Million players. Assuming that just half of that comes from the western block nations, where subscription fees are at least $12 a month that would represent a minimum loss of $144 million a year. When assuming the average cost of salary and benefits per employee was about $100K per year, the annual savings would $60 million. Meaning Blizzard is still losing $84 million a year. Plus on top of that the employer is generally on the hook for half the unemployment benefits.
 
Um 2 mil times 12 is 24 million. Unless you meant 12 mil. 12 mil times 12 is 144 million that would make more sense.
 
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Holy shit, you actually think customer service representatives, or even the lowly programmers, are making 100k/year? I would like to know what fantasy world you live in.

Also, why does almost everyone assume these figures are inclusive of Americans? Blizzard has said the majority of their lost subscriptions reside in China, so then the most logical conclusion is that the majority of people laid off are also from China. Lost jobs sucks no matter where you are, but I hate the assumption that it's only Americans that were laid off.
 
I never assume it was just all Americans. It even says 600 employees globally. I was mainly projecting at isdav since he was ranting about american corporatations being greedy and the average american yet losing more jobs.
 
[citation][nom]value21[/nom]wildkitten you totally missing the point. Why not read all my post before you attack me and pretty much just agreed with what I said. Yes all the successful companies mainly the fortune 500 companies are greedy. Dont kid yourself. Even if its only in the millions that still a lot of money period. But they have a right to be. Thats the exactly point I was trying to make. And yes I have plenty left over after I pay my bills. Again I put myself through school in order to earn the income I earn. And I expect to earn more as time goes own. My skill level will only increase as I put more time in. Thats my point.[/citation]

I did read your posts, and while I agree with most of them, I don't like this attitude about calling companies greedy.

Yes, some are like Enron. But we demonize companies and talk about them as if they are some sort of different lifeform. Well guess what, they aren't. They are owned by people. Do you have a 401k or do any sort of investing? If so, you are the "greedy" company. It's rather ironic how we demonize companies but we act as if the government is some grand noble entity when if companies acted like the government they would be shut down.

Companies do not exist to create jobs. Companies exist to make the owners/shareholders money. Same reason you went and educated yourself and work for more money then you actually need to pay your basic bills. So if they are greedy, then you and all others who want to earn money are just as greedy. Companies make money by providing goods and services we as consumers need or want.

You know it's funny, people screamed at banks for charging $5 a month a while back due to federal regulations forcing how banks charge fees yet most do not realize a bank by law MUST make a certain percentage of profit or go out of business. Yet while screaming over $5 a month, very few go out and complain about the government hindering our ability to drill for oil here so we don't have to pay $20-$30 extra dollars per tank when we go to fill up.

It's so funny how half of all Americans pay nothing in income tax, some getting more in a refund than they even had in withholding (explain how someone should get more in a refund than they paid in) yet many in the half that pay no income taxes scream that those shouldering the tax burden aren't paying their fair share. We have a class warfare going on in this country that is going to rip it apart before long.

Now for all my problems with how Bobby Kotick has meddled with Blizzard and has essentially ruined their reputation, I do not think for a moment it is greed that led them to lay people off. It is mismanagement by Vivendi not realizing the person they placed as CEO of their games division is someone who is despised by gamers and sees the consumers as "resources". But that said, they still have a responsibility to their shareholders, the owners, to make money. How many would be laid off if the company were to keep everyone, lose money and eventually go out of business?
 
[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom] You know it's funny, people screamed at banks for charging $5 a month a while back due to federal regulations forcing how banks charge fees yet most do not realize a bank by law MUST make a certain percentage of profit or go out of business. Yet while screaming over $5 a month, very few go out and complain about the government hindering our ability to drill for oil here so we don't have to pay $20-$30 extra dollars per tank when we go to fill up.[/citation]
You're talking out of your ass. Please educate yourself.

The US is already at its highest domestic energy production in 8 years, and domestic drilling would not lower prices. The price of gas is set by global oil prices. Oil companies don't care where they get the oil or who they sell it to. The same guys that supply the UK and other countries also supply the US. They're not going to give us a "discount" because we allowed them drill off our shores.
 
GREED IS GOOD. Gordon Gekko

This is what pushes the "civilized" world. Still the downsizing and outsourcing will be the new trend. Where do you thing all the work will go. To India, China, Singapore and other 1$ per hour countries. Prepare to be outsourced.
 
600 People are not needed, 600 people made redundant. The world turns.

If their skills are valuable, they'll pick up employment pretty quickly, if their skills are not applicable to anything, then I can't see a problem with a company trimming the fat.

You can only wish the public sector was so brutal in cutting the fat.
 
[citation][nom]arael[/nom]With your atrocious grasp of basic English I wouldn't hire you..[/citation]

Its not like anyone wants to work for you anyway.

America is a failed state precisely because of your type of thinking. Employers are always looking at the next quarter instead of at the next decade.

Yes profits are down. But it isn't time to clean house. It is time to do just the opposite. It is time to use the money that Blizzard presumably saved up in the good years and invest that money heavily into new products and perhaps even new revenue streams.

Yes, for certain that may occasionally require restructuring. Some people who are tied to legacy games may have to be let go. But a much better way to do it would be to make the cuts, while simultaneously hiring a new generation of programmers and developers and making these announcements simultaneously. That would create the impression that Blizzard was investing in the future. As it is. . . . the impression is that Blizzard's financial future is cloudy, at best.


 
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