Blizzard: Diablo 3 on Console "Makes Sense"

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you're all being stupid. Of course they would try to make a game on the console if it can work on the console (which it does), they're a BUSINESS. I don't see why PC games need "PC Exclusives" why can't the console and pc both have versions? Oh that's right because that's for some reason "bad" PC GAMER MASTER RACE right?

If it were me I'd try to develop it for the ipad as well. Diablo could work amazingly well on a tablet. The touch screen makes sense for a game like diablo. Pull your heads out of your asses.
 
[citation][nom]_Pez_[/nom]There it is !!!!!!! that's why the game looks so ugly... jejeje !![/citation]
you beat me to it, beta was a real let down, feels like WoW barfed all over the Diablo world, just doesn't have the gritty dark feel
 
[citation][nom]christarp[/nom]you're all being stupid. Of course they would try to make a game on the console if it can work on the console (which it does), they're a BUSINESS. I don't see why PC games need "PC Exclusives" why can't the console and pc both have versions? Oh that's right because that's for some reason "bad" PC GAMER MASTER RACE right?If it were me I'd try to develop it for the ipad as well. Diablo could work amazingly well on a tablet. The touch screen makes sense for a game like diablo. Pull your heads out of your asses.[/citation]

The Reason why PC gamers dont want anything to do with console games is due to the ancient hardware in the consoles, when the lazy developers aims for that seriously underpowered console "hardware" as standard the newer PC hardware wont even run at 10% on that console/pc shared game not to mention crap like auto-aim ect gets included by default to compensate for the consoles lacks of controls. So is it really that hard to understand why PC gamers like exclussives where their hardware is really used and not only the consoles garbage hardware?
 
[citation][nom]Raidur[/nom]Knowing Blizzard they'll milk what they can.Stick to PC! We need your continuing focus on PC gaming![/citation]

Ofcorse they do, claiming Activision isnt corrupting them slowly is like saying the world is flat!
 
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[citation][nom]rantoc[/nom]The Reason why PC gamers dont want anything to do with console games is due to the ancient hardware in the consoles, when the lazy developers aims for that seriously underpowered console "hardware" as standard the newer PC hardware wont even run at 10% on that console/pc shared game not to mention crap like auto-aim ect gets included by default to compensate for the consoles lacks of controls. So is it really that hard to understand why PC gamers like exclussives where their hardware is really used and not only the consoles garbage hardware?[/citation]

graphics aren't everything. most people don't spend 300$ on a graphics card. personally i'm glad consoles are lingering, just so i don't have to spend big $ on graphics cards 8 months just to keep up back in '98-'05 before xbox360 and ps3.
 
Have you ever tried Diablo on Playstation 1 ?
Best time of my life thanks to the Coop mode 😀
Take that Skeleton King !!!
 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]lets talk diablo exclusively here, shooters... i have no love for them at all but aimbots (thats what they are) in the console versions doesn't bug me, and usually they are taken out for the pc or have an option. now diablo exclusively works better on a console than on a pc. you ever play the everquest diablo style games on the ps2? i would honestly rather play with those controls on the pc than with a mouse and keyboard, this style of game works far better with a controller. o await, wait, did i already get your down vote for suggesting that a controller is better than keyboard and mouse... ooo that sucks i thought my next comment would be the one to get it. from what i see, they aren't making the game a cartoon, what are people complaining about the art style for... are tehy really complaining that it isnt an icometric game like the first two... or is it that the game doesn't look like a modern shades of gray and brown realism that makes you not like the game? these characters i want to bet used up less than 10000 pixles of screen space, and were pre rendered, same with the enviorments. the realism is an illusion, and i honestly cant see what they are doing as a mistep. they aren't making the characters cartoonish like they did with wow.o you didnt downvote me yet, well here is the last thing that allways puts me -4 in an hour. what do you people want, a company like blizard to make a game that only the people stupid enough to spend 2 grand on gpus alone could boot up? do you really want diablo 3 to be unplayable at launch? from the videos i have seen, game looks great.oh oh oh... one last thingBLIZZARD DOESN'T ANSWER TO ACTIVISION, THEY ANSWER TO VIVIENDI, PART OF THE ACQUISITION DEAL WAS SPECIFICALLY ACTIVISION CANT TOUCH THEM.and cue the 15 minutes till this gets enough - votes to hide it.[/citation]

I voted you up. All made sense to me
 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom] Blah blah blah i would honestly rather play with those controls on the pc than with a mouse and keyboard, this style of game works far better with a controller. o await, wait, did i already get your down vote for suggesting that a controller is better than keyboard and mouse... ooo that sucks i thought my next comment would be the one to get it.[/citation]

First of all... THEY MAKE CONTROLLERS FOR PCs. Most of them even mimic the stupid Xbox / PS design. Saying you think something works better on a console because of the controlers proves that you don't have the tech knowledge to be posting anything meaningful here.

2nd, the comments about the graphics are legitimate. It's always been blizzard's way (Low-end graphics and simplistic game engines to appeal to more consumers with low-end PCs).

It's just becoming more and more apparent now that games from real developers have amazing graphics (Battlefield 3, Crysis 1 and 2, AvP, Dirt 2, Skyrim, etc etc. )

World of Warcraft, Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2, and now Diablo 3, all follow the "Make it with simple / dated graphics so bad PCs can get good FPS playing it so we get more $$$"

I mean, look at SC2, it's more like starcraft 1.2, a couple new units, and *slightly* better graphics. No new mechanics, nothing original, just a hyped up, reskinned 10 year old game.

These are the main reasons why I never buy blizzard games. They bring the PC industry down. They refuse to innovate, and now they're selling out to consoles to sap more money out of people who don't know better.

Who cares anyway. Blizzard is old news now. There are tons of MMORPGs, RPGs and strategy games that are more advanced, and much more fun then what blizzard offers. Screw em, I say.
 
Eh Diablo III beta disappointed me all around. Not only was the combat simplified, the leveling up system dumbed down, and the NPC interaction destroyed... The damn game was ugly to boot. Not even ugly in that cartoony WoW way everyone claims.

The graphics were flat-out dated. I seriously was wondering if they'd just taken an HD texture pack and added it to D2. Hell, but even that would be better. At least then you'd get D2's wonderfully climactic art style instead of this typical fantasy adventure game.

Diablo I and II were so close to my heart because of the complexity, the art style, and the sheer darkness behind it. This game just feels cartoony and dated.
 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]BLIZZARD DOESN'T ANSWER TO ACTIVISION, THEY ANSWER TO VIVIENDI, PART OF THE ACQUISITION DEAL WAS SPECIFICALLY ACTIVISION CANT TOUCH THEM.[/citation]
That's like 2 "working women" answering to a pimp. One woman named Kotick is making money more cheaply for the Viven... I mean pimp. For how much longer will woman #2 continue to put out quality, when the sleazy one's making money as well? At the end of the day, the pimp just wants his money. Don't matter how he gets it.
 
[citation][nom]airborne11b[/nom]First of all... THEY MAKE CONTROLLERS FOR PCs. Most of them even mimic the stupid Xbox / PS design. Saying you think something works better on a console because of the controlers proves that you don't have the tech knowledge to be posting anything meaningful here.2nd, the comments about the graphics are legitimate. It's always been blizzard's way (Low-end graphics and simplistic game engines to appeal to more consumers with low-end PCs).It's just becoming more and more apparent now that games from real developers have amazing graphics (Battlefield 3, Crysis 1 and 2, AvP, Dirt 2, Skyrim, etc etc. )World of Warcraft, Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2, and now Diablo 3, all follow the "Make it with simple / dated graphics so bad PCs can get good FPS playing it so we get more $$$"I mean, look at SC2, it's more like starcraft 1.2, a couple new units, and *slightly* better graphics. No new mechanics, nothing original, just a hyped up, reskinned 10 year old game. These are the main reasons why I never buy blizzard games. They bring the PC industry down. They refuse to innovate, and now they're selling out to consoles to sap more money out of people who don't know better.Who cares anyway. Blizzard is old news now. There are tons of MMORPGs, RPGs and strategy games that are more advanced, and much more fun then what blizzard offers. Screw em, I say.[/citation]

OK so in your little world completely re hauling a game (starcraft franchise) is not a large feat ? have you really fucking even watched the two games? Starcraft 1 is in 2D ?!?!?! starcraft 2 is in 3D, just watch the amount of detail in each of the models for starcraft 2, then look at the amount of details in the maps. And do you know how fucking hard it is making a sequel to "THE" most popular strategy game of all times, and it not being a flop? That takes years ! yes Years of research and careful playing around with the game engine, to make the game different but still not goof it up so it will still attract professional gamers to adopt. Btw have you even played diablo 3?, i have, and at first i wasnt sure if i would like it, but i can say i fucking love it, i´ve played the beta on every character to lvl 13 and cleared the beta many times. It's not easy making a game as simple as diablo 3 but oh so complex and deep and fun.

Would diablo 3 work on the console? In theory yes, you move your character and the way the character face you can launch primary or secondary spells with a push of one button each, then we need a button for each of the bar skills, and one for the pots, one for opening bags, one for opening character info one for opening companion, one for opening skill pane.
In all fairness you coul propably push it all together into a submenu and save some buttons.
But in my opnion it wouldnt flow as well on console layout as it does on the pc. i dont know how they solved the inventroy in diablo 1 on playstation, but they can propably do something similar.
 
Duh!?!?...The game can be easily consolized with no negative impact to PC gamers. Personally, I am likely to going to get it on the Xbox, rather than my PC if I had only one choice...BUT...I do have multiple choices, SO I am getting it on BOTH! 🙂...Achievement points AND full modding capability!
 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]lets talk diablo exclusively here, shooters... i have no love for them at all but aimbots (thats what they are) in the console versions doesn't bug me, and usually they are taken out for the pc or have an option. now diablo exclusively works better on a console than on a pc. you ever play the everquest diablo style games on the ps2? i would honestly rather play with those controls on the pc than with a mouse and keyboard, this style of game works far better with a controller. o await, wait, did i already get your down vote for suggesting that a controller is better than keyboard and mouse... ooo that sucks i thought my next comment would be the one to get it. from what i see, they aren't making the game a cartoon, what are people complaining about the art style for... are tehy really complaining that it isnt an icometric game like the first two... or is it that the game doesn't look like a modern shades of gray and brown realism that makes you not like the game? these characters i want to bet used up less than 10000 pixles of screen space, and were pre rendered, same with the enviorments. the realism is an illusion, and i honestly cant see what they are doing as a mistep. they aren't making the characters cartoonish like they did with wow.o you didnt downvote me yet, well here is the last thing that allways puts me -4 in an hour. what do you people want, a company like blizard to make a game that only the people stupid enough to spend 2 grand on gpus alone could boot up? do you really want diablo 3 to be unplayable at launch? from the videos i have seen, game looks great.oh oh oh... one last thingBLIZZARD DOESN'T ANSWER TO ACTIVISION, THEY ANSWER TO VIVIENDI, PART OF THE ACQUISITION DEAL WAS SPECIFICALLY ACTIVISION CANT TOUCH THEM.and cue the 15 minutes till this gets enough - votes to hide it.[/citation]


i got no problem with what you said myself , other than the way you went about saying it, you make yourself sound like a bigger ass than you are. we need less childish word sniper fights and more intelligent and respectful arguments debates. i hate it when either side of the argument comes off as condescending and sarcastic as you just did.

i play both pc games and console games for the record .
 
[citation][nom]hiruu[/nom]Duh!?!?...The game can be easily consolized with no negative impact to PC gamers. Personally, I am likely to going to get it on the Xbox, rather than my PC if I had only one choice...BUT...I do have multiple choices, SO I am getting it on BOTH! 🙂...Achievement points AND full modding capability![/citation]

Sadly by judging the beta D3 ALREADY have taken a beating due to the consoles, unusually weak gfx as well as generally beeing "dumbed down" compared to the other two diablos. Ofcorse Blizzard could have choosen to use the PC as the reference platform and then scale it downwards towards consoles and everone would been happy. Now however it would seem they started very low indicating its another game that lost a big chunk of its values due to "consolization".

This news is hardly supricing that they aimed for consoles, barely halfway through beta that was painfully obvious.
 
[citation][nom]airborne11b[/nom]First of all... THEY MAKE CONTROLLERS FOR PCs. Most of them even mimic the stupid Xbox / PS design. Saying you think something works better on a console because of the controlers proves that you don't have the tech knowledge to be posting anything meaningful here.2nd, the comments about the graphics are legitimate. It's always been blizzard's way (Low-end graphics and simplistic game engines to appeal to more consumers with low-end PCs).It's just becoming more and more apparent now that games from real developers have amazing graphics (Battlefield 3, Crysis 1 and 2, AvP, Dirt 2, Skyrim, etc etc. )World of Warcraft, Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2, and now Diablo 3, all follow the "Make it with simple / dated graphics so bad PCs can get good FPS playing it so we get more $$$"I mean, look at SC2, it's more like starcraft 1.2, a couple new units, and *slightly* better graphics. No new mechanics, nothing original, just a hyped up, reskinned 10 year old game. These are the main reasons why I never buy blizzard games. They bring the PC industry down. They refuse to innovate, and now they're selling out to consoles to sap more money out of people who don't know better.Who cares anyway. Blizzard is old news now. There are tons of MMORPGs, RPGs and strategy games that are more advanced, and much more fun then what blizzard offers. Screw em, I say.[/citation]


you obviously haven't really done any research or forethought into what you are trying to discuss here. before i i get on explaining why let me re-iterate that i play both PC games and console games.now many poeple want to jump and say I'm not a "true" gamer if i play consoles at all , but that is just so much bullshit the definition of a gamer is some one that plays video games .. end of dicussion on that point.

now back to my point on why you don't know what you are talking about, and really just spewing your biased nonsense opinion.

1. how are the makers of battle field , skyrim ect ect , real developers and blizzard and other console developers not ? first off a game developer is some one that produces and developes video games. it doesn't matter rather or not they are developing for an cell phone console or a PC , if they make games they are REAL developers. Also guess what ... jobs in the game industry arn't anchored to stone, more than likely any company you name has employees that have worked both sides of the fence.

2. your "innovative" games that require a 20 core processor, 130 gigs of ram and 10 SLI-ed 1000 dollar video cards, do not sell nearly as well as games that use far less hardware (i'm being sarcastic and exagerative a bit there i know). if those were teh ONLY games made on PC , then the Pc gaming market would be about 20 times smaller than it is now ... so how the reality is the opposite of what you say it is , the high graphic games turn many would be buyers off when they require a small fortune to run, This HURTS the PC market. the lower end graphic games actually drive pc game sells up witch helps the PC gaming market. Case and point : a few years ago a friend's girlfreind got interested in playing one of my pc games (oblivion) , at the time oblivion made every PC under 2000 bucks in price look like slow shit, even putting together a conservative system plan to run it at medium spec , the figure of 1200 bucks made her scoff , in the end she picked up a 400 dollar xbox 360 and got the game on it. Moral of that story .. what you are calling "innovative" ONLY HURTS PC GAME MARKET GROWTH!!!

3. graphical improvements do not equal game innovation. sure better graphics are nice .. but seriously NONE of the games you listed as being "awsome" , none i mean zero of those you listed are innovative. battlefield 3, ES 5 skyrim, Dirt 2... note they have a number in their name that designates them as sequels . IE they play like the game before them , and the one before that , there is NOTHING innovative about that. slapping a new coat of paint on a old car doesn't make it innovative , it still drives the same just looks better. so relaly your "innovation" argument is thrown out because really nothing you listed or any thing that has come out in the last 5 years really innovated on game mechanics and game play the core of what innovation is in the game industry. ok you can say some of those games innovated on graphics , by having dx 11 support ... but not really. few dx 11 games really make deccent innovative use of tessellation right now , most don't use tessellation at all even. Even if the did , Tessellation (aka displacment mapping ) is nothing new or innovative created by the game industry , because it's been in use in 3ds max and CGI movies for more than a decade now. improving graphics is NOT innovation , it's just playing catch up to CGI movie tech.

4. hypocrytical statment

"I mean, look at SC2, it's more like starcraft 1.2, a couple new units, and *slightly* better graphics. No new mechanics, nothing original, just a hyped up, reskinned 10 year old game."

right here the very thing you accuse blizzard of doing EVERY game company that makes a game you listed earlier as "awsome" , is also guilty of this same thing !!!!
i'm not even calling this bad .. i enjoyed ES 3, 4, and 5 equally , but i don't try to kid myself into believeing that they are just so drastically different from one to the next , because they arn't really that different , a few mechanics change the graphics certainlly change, but you know they are all still ES games . same can be said for AvP 2010, battlefeild 3 , dirt 2 and crysis 1 and 2, and 80-90 % of the game market as a whole. Its why and how genre's exsist , because their are similar groups games that generally play and look the same way . you might as well bitch about every game developer and just stop playing video games altogether going by what you are saying here.


next time before posting i suggest you think out what you are saying before hitting the button. have a good day Bro , i'm out.
 
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