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But of course, Mad Mod &^* crapping around

AMD now can be considered a desease that affects brains(of people who have them) and makes people see in AMD the Holy Grail or something like that.
so you are either suffering from this syndrome or you're plain brainless.
Seriously there is no need to complain about facts(and especially it's plain silly quoting every post that doesn't bash Intel). Turion dual core is not here,core duo tops everything on the market right now. And you're a ^*( fanboy that has no rival when it comes to praising a brand.
People are missinformed,like it or not. After a AMD 64 bit succes people would think that the lappy CPU is just as good which it isn't. And Xeons are still bought in quite large numbers because people got used to Intel lead.

Now go play with your AMD toys. And do not swallow them, those parts may be toxic and dangerous especially when OC at increased voltages.
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hey dont you have intelitis the disease which makes you deny reality and accept fantasy such as intel beating amd in performance or thinking your prescott runs colder than a clawhammer
 
But of course, Mad Mod &^* crapping around

AMD now can be considered a desease that affects brains(of people who have them) and makes people see in AMD the Holy Grail or something like that.
so you are either suffering from this syndrome or you're plain brainless.
Seriously there is no need to complain about facts(and especially it's plain silly quoting every post that doesn't bash Intel). Turion dual core is not here,core duo tops everything on the market right now. And you're a ^*( fanboy that has no rival when it comes to praising a brand.
People are missinformed,like it or not. After a AMD 64 bit succes people would think that the lappy CPU is just as good which it isn't. And Xeons are still bought in quite large numbers because people got used to Intel lead.

Now go play with your AMD toys. And do not swallow them, those parts may be toxic and dangerous especially when OC at increased voltages.
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If this interview with Intel's Paul Otellini is a preview of IDF we will find out nothing.

Oh how I want to see benchies...
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:arrow: ANY good forum would ban that last poster (so sorry for the off-topic.)
 
yea i kinda liked the part where they comapred this new technology to the pentium III. way to go intel just take a step backwards. but hey if it works use it.
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I guess you don't remember, but P4 was seen as a step backwards even then. Tualatin kicked all kinds of ass.

Intel realised their folly... now if only someone would spend some cash redeveloping the MPC7447. That's an architecture to die for...
 
It's the time of the year again. Intel will host its Spring Developer Forum this week. Needless to say, Tom's Hardware and TG Daily will be on location to see the first Meroms, Conroes and Woodcrests first-hand.

We'll be covering the event in detail and hope that you guys check back frequently for news and our reports; but we also hope that there will be a lively discussion about the new facts coming out of IDF.

We'll be checking back on your discussions and do our best to cover your questions in our articles.

To kick it off - what are your expectations in the new architecture? Performance? Power consumption? New features? Besting AMD?

Looking forward to your comments!
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One simple word to your headline....."NO" not gonna happen for at least a year or longer...
 
wow MadmodMike your the fanboy here, since the thread is about intel convention, you are jumping to the part saying "fanboyims" is that because there is no AMD in the name? I bet if it said AMD convension, you would jump up and down and finaly get your thumb outa your ass
 
wow MadmodMike your the fanboy here, since the thread is about intel convention, you are jumping to the part saying "fanboyims" is that because there is no AMD in the name? I bet if it said AMD convension, you would jump up and down and finaly get your thumb outa your ass
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~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
What are you doing,wasting time again? Your fanboyism AND lack of pure ration make you resort to such silly posts. Continueing to argue with you would be a waste on my side since you're clearly not thinking with your head. Your so called knowlage(which i never denied) on computers means nothing if you can't make use of it when needed. And since your head is so much filled with facts taken from here and there you can't actually understand/agree with some basic things that have very little connection to computers.

You probably don't understand the basic advantage of having a monopoly in the market. It's wrong to say AMD vs Intel is similary to Nvidia vs ATI. AMD hasn't reached that level (yet). If Conroe succeds AMD will remain silent. Intel has been acting like a leading force and only reacts when the competition has a competitive/better product. AMD may win here and there and might gain market share but unless problems occur in the end Intel will be taking the advantage back. So i'm not surprised really if AMD reaches 30% by the end of the year because after
that Intel will come up with a better product and regain lost market share.
Changes can and will happen but for now lets stick to our maths and knowlage of probability. AMDs chances are basically proportional to its size. To this a 10% will be added(and removed from Intel's chances) since AMD is currently leading. BUT still Intel has better odds in regaining market share,than AMD in wining. Nvidia and ATI are evenly matched, so there are big chances that things won't change in the following years.

So,as always stick to the better product or dont get anything at all. Following those advices is wise. I for one prefer waiting. Yes i'm a fanboy so? I don't go around praising the Prescot as you do with the Turion( stupid name for stupid product). In fact not getting anything is probably more beneficial really cause that would make you take a break from the computer. BUT that's another story...

And if we draw a line and compare any of the Int. fanboy posts to yours or to 9 inche's the conclusion would be that while Intel fanboys admit that AMD is overall better in many areas you bash Intel at every chapter. So i ask you this,is Intel that bad really or are you just imagining things?

You say i'm surprising you with fanboyism bias? Well i say you don't surprise me with anything since every post shows AMD sympathy or shall i call it fanatism. Your posts are so repetitive. Why don't you post "Intel bad AMD good" so people don't have to get lost in those lines of bias. Because one way or another that's the only conclusion you'll be getting to.

I admit,i'm an Intel fanboy that loves his chip. But i wouldn't go as far as saying that Intel is better and "go Intel " in every post. You're a AMD fanboy, you don't admit it/realise it(that makes you much worse) and you have no sense most of the times.

You proved your real worth and i'd agree of being wrong in everything i said just to make you shut up. Jesus what's this world becoming to? The Terminator scenario is not far from the truth,but there won't be robots,there will be people acting like them.
 
Is there something in the rules about not haveing any good Intel threads here?
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There's no such thing as a "good" intel thread here. :wink:

Intel has been acting like a leading force and only reacts when the competition has a competitive/better product.
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The funniest thing of your satement is that Intel have being doing so since 5 years ago. :lol:

So i'm not surprised really if AMD reaches 30% by the end of the year because after
that Intel will come up with a better product and regain lost market share.
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Where's that "wonderful" product that will save Intel's @ss?
Is it Conroe? :lol:


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Tell me please tell me when AMD was not only on par but superior to a Intel chip except now? I watched benchmarks from PC magazines and sites regulary but Intel always was considered better performing at the expense of more money.
Now AMD has jumped ahead with a good series of products and that will finally wake Intel up from hibernation. A lot of time has passed since the last time Intel had taken something seriously. AMD leading in performance in the server market is a good thing in the long term. Intel will start working hard to regain. Really,if it weren't for AMDs leap ahead these 2 years would have been wasted for nothing due to a dead market.
And Intel's response will come. Will it be Conroe,will it be Woodcrest, that we will find out. It's a matter of time really. Now will they fail,only time will tell. For now i'm keeping my faith in them.
 
As i said before i am a fanboy thus i am taking the plunge waiting for a good Intel chip. If it doesn't come i may as well reconsider.
 
AM2. . . same logical device + DDR2

whoopie :roll:
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You ...Fanboy + Ignorance

Whoopie :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

As far as we know right now, the AM2 CPU's will not differ that greatly from current Venice, San Diego, etcetera CPU's. Nobody knows for sure yet, but chances are great that the speed of a 3200+ Venice and 3200+ AM2 will be quite similar, because I doubt we will see 3.0GHz speed just because of the new socket. Now, if the case is that the chip will not generate anymore heat, then the newly designed socket will be a very odd step for AMD to take.

http://techgage.com/review.php?id=4245

It was already clear the new CPU would require DDR2 memory, but it appears AMD is also using this architecture change to upgrade the current mounting scheme for Athlon 64 heatsink/fans. those moving to AM2 will at a minimum need a new processor for a new Socket 940, new DDR2 memory to replace existing DDR memory for Athlon 64, and a new or revised heatsink/fan cooling solution.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2688


Wow.
DDR2 on the exact same logical device. . . AND a new HSF?!?! OMFG!
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As i said before i am a fanboy thus i am taking the plunge waiting for a good Intel chip. If it doesn't come i may as well reconsider.
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Don't worry about it man, I've seen the NGMA in action. They're quick as all get out. Couple up with 2 gigs of NAND flash in "instant-on appliance mode" (we gotta come up with a better name than that) and its a damned zippy system. We didnt have any decent vid cards laying around the lab, so i was forced to play DoD:S on the integrated extreme graphics system D= !
 
Yeah that basically proves it but still AMD fanboys have a point when they say that you can't accurately estimate future DDR2's impact on performance or better cache(L3 cache is impressive)
IMHO Conroe will top AMD but again that's IMHO so AMD fanboy's do not take offense due to a simple opinion.
 
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=90743
Core Duo @ 2.928Ghz on Air vs FX60 @ 3.379Ghz on Vapochill....

Have a look, Intel wins. Conroe will only be better. :!:
I hope the IDF has something to for enthusiasts, not just the major system biulders.

ATi has retaken the lead in graphic, so Intel could just as easy beat AMD.
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2 things wrong with that.

1) The Memory Speed on the A64 is 30MHz less (60MHz Effective) and Yonah beats by a small margin with a 60MHz more on memory, that doesn't seem to much to me

2) 3379MHz is fake. There is no combination of 194 x anything = 3379, the closest is 17.5 which is 3395MHz.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
BTW, gaming on an OC-198 is the only way to go =D
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Its a OC-192 by the way 😉 And I prefer a LAN party with no routers and a Cisco 3750 switch with the server and computers all running Gig connections.

I wish I didn't have to read all this AMD/Intel stuff. The Subject is about the IDF not is AMD better then Intel. I am a AMD Fanboy AND a Intel Fanboy...or better yet just a geek that loves puters and enjoys gaming. Intel is onto something this year FINALLY. It seems they are letting the Techs make some calls and not the Marketing people that only care about the MHZ race. Now that those times are past and people care about how the chips perform I think we are in for some great things this year from BOTH camps. You can deny that a die shrink to 65nm on 300mm wafers is going to put Intel into a good position to make some fast, cool, and cheap (if they choose to) chips.

I can't wait to see the Benchmarks from both camps later this summer/fall when all the new goodies come out.
 
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