Cant pick a very fast high end cpu

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

I need some options between Intel and AMD cpu's high end for gaming and web surfing. I want the best cpu that I can buy but I cant decide what one to get 8 core or 12 core by AMD Threadripper because the cache is very high and the speed is also high and can overclock small amount and I can also go Xeon cpu if it can take games online, I am leaning towards the 12 core cpu because the cache is very high with 32 mb cache and the speed is 3.5 so tell what you think of this cpu I am not going for 16 cores as I dont need more cores.

I wont be getting ThreadRipper because of the power consumption is too high, I wont be getting the best high core cpu because the Cache is too high, so I will be searching for a very fast cpu with lower Cache like i7 7740X series it could be the only option I got all the rest is too high and slower.

Thank you for your help.

This is what I am thinking of getting https://www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-core-i3-7350k-dual-core-lga-1151-42-ghz-unlocked-cpu-processor-ac00181

Here are the parts Im getting

Mwave Custom Computer System
SKU# [SKU] | Model# [MODEL NO]
- 1 × Intel Core i3 7350K Dual Core LGA 1151 4.2 GHz Unlocked CPU ... SKU# AC00181
- 1 × Mwave Overclocking Service SKU# AB49521
- 1 × Advanced Transportation Packing Solution SKU# AB52361
- 1 × Extended Keyboard Testing SKU# AC10377
- 1 × Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4x 8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Memory SKU# AB59360
- 1 × Corsair Hydro Series H80i v2 120mm High Performance Liquid C... SKU# AB73332
- 1 × ASUS BW-16D1HT PRO Internal 16X Blu-ray Writer SKU# AB84791
- 1 × Microsoft Windows 7 Professional DVD SP1 64-Bit OEM DVD SKU# AA67797
- 2 × ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti ROG Strix Gaming OC 11GB Video Card SKU# AC03294
- 1 × Corsair K70 LUX Blue LED Mechanical Gaming Keyboard - Cherry... SKU# AB83159
- 1 × Priority 3 Year Pick Up & Return Server Warranty - 4 Busine... SKU# AB59770
- 2 × Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 NVMe SSD CSSD-F480GBMP500 SKU# AC00792
- 1 × Professional Technical Advice For Custom PC's SKU# AB52380
- 1 × ASUS TUF Sabertooth Z270 Mark 1 LGA 1151 ATX Motherboard SKU# AB94143
- 1 × Mwave Custom PC Assembly SKU# AB47402
- 1 × Corsair Gaming Sabre RGB Optical Gaming Mouse SKU# AB83601
- 1 × RAID 0 HDD Configuration - Striping without Parity or Mirror... SKU# AB50966
- 1 × Corsair HX750M 750W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply SKU# AC02118
- 1 × Extended Testing for Custom PC's SKU# AB52377
- 1 × Corsair Graphite 780T Full Tower Gaming Case - White SKU# AB55672
- 1 × High Performance CPU Thermal Compound Application SKU# AB52363
- 1 × ASUS ROG Swift PG27VQ 27" WQHD Curved G-Sync Gaming Monitor SKU# AC09154

Total $8,500.00

 

[Supernova1138]

If you're just gaming and web surfing, you don't need to look at high end CPUs like Threadripper, Xeons or Core i9s. Those CPUs are geared more towards workstation tasks that benefit from lots of cores and threads. If you're only going to be gaming and web browsing, then the i7 8700k with 6 cores and 12 threads is the best CPU currently available, offering the best per core performance while also offering a decent number of cores that games might actually utilize. Cheaper options like the Core i5 8600k or 8400 or the Ryzen 5 1600 are also good options if you want to save some money while losing a little bit of performance compared to the 8700k.

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-TR-1950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-TR-1920X/3932vs3934

Now the 1950X beats the 1920X so I might go for the best AMD cpu Threadripper and for gaming it is based on GPU usage not the cpu so I'll have to go for a high end graphics card like 1080TI or Titan XP since the Titan V is not out yet.

 

[mdd1963]

Threadripper costs several hundreds extra for the CPU, and then hundreds extra on the motherboard, and, yet performs about like a 7600K... when underclocked. For gaming and web-surfing, it's a 'Mega-Fail', IMO.....

The 'go-to' 'good perfomrance/moderate budget' gaming solution right now seems to be an 8600K with a nice cooler; even the 8400 does quite well at turbo speeds.

If you can afford the 8700K, no one has yet died from having an extra 6 hyperthreads...and a few hundred extra MHz stock /turbo freqs as well...

 

[dudeman509]

Clockspeed/IPC > # of cores for the tasks you mention.

A Ryzen 5/7 or i5/i7 will be perfectly fine.

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

 

[Insomniac Jack]

All the answers so far are pointing you in the right direction. Those CPU's you want are actually slower in gaming than the ones mentioned by others. When you get past 8 cores clock speeds tend to drop which means slower gaming performance which is why nobody on this forum would buy a workstation chip for gaming only. More cores does not equal faster gaming it means faster workstation tasks that require high core counts. Honestly you're just wasting your money by getting those CPU's for web browsing and gaming. If you want the fastest get an AMD 1800x or Intel 8700k.

 

[DSzymborski]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

 

[power_beam]

LOL. Are you trolling or just plain ignorant. Like people have given you multiple good answers and advice but you are just ignoring them and it seems like you know what you want already. Just looks at benchmarks for your choice good grief

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

So what your saying is my choices was a bad pick for gaming, so high cores does nothing so am I looking at AMD Ryzen 7 like an 8 core cpu AMD 1800X and get a very fast graphics card either from AMD or Nvidia thank you for your reply.

 

[DSzymborski]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

So what your saying is my choices was a bad pick for gaming, so high cores does nothing so am I looking at AMD Ryzen 7 like an 8 core cpu AMD 1800X and get a very fast graphics card either from AMD or Nvidia thank you for your reply.

Yup. Stay away from workstation CPUs if you're not doing a professional level of that type of workload on your PC. An 8700k outperforms both the i9-7980XE and the 1950x in gaming. A tradeoff of more cores for lower clockspeed (7980XE) or lower clockspeed and fewer instructions per cycle (1950x) is good when you're doing professional level, mission-critical things like high-end professional video editing or mathematical simulations. The tradeoff is not good for games.

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

So what your saying is my choices was a bad pick for gaming, so high cores does nothing so am I looking at AMD Ryzen 7 like an 8 core cpu AMD 1800X and get a very fast graphics card either from AMD or Nvidia thank you for your reply.

Yup. Stay away from workstation CPUs if you're not doing a professional level of that type of workload on your PC. An 8700k outperforms both the i9-7980XE and the 1950x in gaming. A tradeoff of more cores for lower clockspeed (7980XE) or lower clockspeed and fewer instructions per cycle (1950x) is good when you're doing professional level, mission-critical things like high-end professional video editing or mathematical simulations. The tradeoff is not good for games.

Cool thank you for your help, this will save me heaps of money, I'll keep searching for the right cpu for gaming either AMD or Intel with lower cores and higher clock speeds and put most of the money towards a good graphics cards like Titan V.

 

[dudeman509]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

So what your saying is my choices was a bad pick for gaming, so high cores does nothing so am I looking at AMD Ryzen 7 like an 8 core cpu AMD 1800X and get a very fast graphics card either from AMD or Nvidia thank you for your reply.

Yup. Stay away from workstation CPUs if you're not doing a professional level of that type of workload on your PC. An 8700k outperforms both the i9-7980XE and the 1950x in gaming. A tradeoff of more cores for lower clockspeed (7980XE) or lower clockspeed and fewer instructions per cycle (1950x) is good when you're doing professional level, mission-critical things like high-end professional video editing or mathematical simulations. The tradeoff is not good for games.

Cool thank you for your help, this will save me heaps of money, I'll keep searching for the right cpu for gaming either AMD or Intel with lower cores and higher clock speeds and put most of the money towards a good graphics cards like Titan V.

...here we go again.

What resolution screen are you hoping to game on? A 1080ti is fine for 4k. Anything less, a GTX 1070/ti will suffice.

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

So what your saying is my choices was a bad pick for gaming, so high cores does nothing so am I looking at AMD Ryzen 7 like an 8 core cpu AMD 1800X and get a very fast graphics card either from AMD or Nvidia thank you for your reply.

Yup. Stay away from workstation CPUs if you're not doing a professional level of that type of workload on your PC. An 8700k outperforms both the i9-7980XE and the 1950x in gaming. A tradeoff of more cores for lower clockspeed (7980XE) or lower clockspeed and fewer instructions per cycle (1950x) is good when you're doing professional level, mission-critical things like high-end professional video editing or mathematical simulations. The tradeoff is not good for games.

Cool thank you for your help, this will save me heaps of money, I'll keep searching for the right cpu for gaming either AMD or Intel with lower cores and higher clock speeds and put most of the money towards a good graphics cards like Titan V.

...here we go again.

What resolution screen are you hoping to game on? A 1080ti is fine for 4k. Anything less, a GTX 1070/ti will suffice.

check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLX239KwZyc i7 8700K wins. Looks like Intel has got it again.

 

[dudeman509]

Help me choose, Intel Core X i9-7980XE 18 Cores LGA 2066 2.60Ghz CPU Unlocked Processor, or Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 LGA2011-3 2.3GHz CPU Processor and or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Socket TR4 3.4GHz Unlocked CPU Processor?

Ok, I understand these processors are only for databases and workloads, it is very hard to find the right cpu, please help me I want the fastest as possible and overclockable I am saving up some money to buy the new desktop because I really find that laptops are too slow for gaming, please put me in the right direction?

You've already gotten good answers: a Coffee Lake i7 or a Ryzen 7. You're linking workstation CPUs which do nothing for gaming. While there are occasionally Xeons that are good gaming purchases, that's when individual ones are priced competitively with i5/i7 CPUs. Certainly not the Xeons bordering on $3,000. You'll actually get *worse* gaming performance overall with high-core, lower-speed workstation CPUs.

This is a bit like asking whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is better for hauling old furniture to the local dump. Neither, you want a truck for this purpose, not a $250,000 sports car.

So what your saying is my choices was a bad pick for gaming, so high cores does nothing so am I looking at AMD Ryzen 7 like an 8 core cpu AMD 1800X and get a very fast graphics card either from AMD or Nvidia thank you for your reply.

Yup. Stay away from workstation CPUs if you're not doing a professional level of that type of workload on your PC. An 8700k outperforms both the i9-7980XE and the 1950x in gaming. A tradeoff of more cores for lower clockspeed (7980XE) or lower clockspeed and fewer instructions per cycle (1950x) is good when you're doing professional level, mission-critical things like high-end professional video editing or mathematical simulations. The tradeoff is not good for games.

Cool thank you for your help, this will save me heaps of money, I'll keep searching for the right cpu for gaming either AMD or Intel with lower cores and higher clock speeds and put most of the money towards a good graphics cards like Titan V.

...here we go again.

What resolution screen are you hoping to game on? A 1080ti is fine for 4k. Anything less, a GTX 1070/ti will suffice.

check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLX239KwZyc i7 8700K wins. Looks like Intel has got it again.

That's basically what everyone told you, yeah. 6 fast cores/12T is plenty for gaming. The higher IPC of Intel chips will usually net you higher FPS in games (if that matters - most people target 60 FPS, and either will do that easily).

If you're streaming while gaming, the 8700k and Ryzen 1700/1800x are on more equal playing fields at that point.

 

[HOkay]

check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLX239KwZyc i7 8700K wins. Looks like Intel has got it again.

tldr; Buy an 8700k and 1080ti.

As has already been said multiple times in this thread, it's very simple, for the absolute best gaming performance money can buy right now you want an 8700k overclocked as much as possible paired with a Titan V. However! The Titan V is retardedly expensive, and a 1080ti is the best GPU to buy unless you really want to drive 3440x1440@144Hz+ or 4k@120Hz+ (when those monitors are actually released).

Get it bought and enjoy gaming at the top end !

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Thank you very much for your replies and Intel is bringing out i7 9700K in 2018 so I'll wait until then when it comes out.

 

[HOkay]

Thank you very much for your replies and Intel is bringing out i7 9700K in 2018 so I'll wait until then when it comes out.

They'll probably have a 10-series chip in 2019, why not wait for that?

Obviously if you don't want to buy yet then don't, but you'll always be waiting if you take that attitude. The 9700k will be ~10% faster than the 8700k as usual so it's not worth waiting in my opinion. You could be using the best possible machine for months before the 9700k comes out if you bought now, & when the 9700k does come out it'll be virtually no difference to what you've got.

 

[richiestang_78]

Agreed, you will always be waiting for what's next. If you want the best then get a 8700k because a Threadripper or i9 is not a gaming CPU

 

[johnrob]

Get yourself an i7 8700k
Get yourself an NZXT x62 water loop
Get yourself a gtx 1080 ti or titan xp

DO NOT get a titan V. Instead of spending $3000 usd on an ugly workstation card spend your money on new generations of enthusiast level hardware. I could build an entire PC, buy an appropriate monitor, and get myself nice peripherals for what you want to spend on a video card...and my stuff would perform better.

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Look this up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHqNMHf2UNI

The new i7 8700K cpu is slower because of the L3 Cache has 12MB it is too high so there for get a lower Cache number for faster transfers. Thank you for everything.

Sorry guys I was wrong about the cpu but I want AMD thank you.

 

[crixusthegladiatorhero]

Guys I am wrong about the cpu, more cache the faster it is not the slowest but L3 is biggest and slowest than L2 but with having more cache like 32mb L3 is the fastest cache.

 

[HOkay]

Flogging a dead thread here, but let's just sum up:

Fact 1: the 8700k is the fastest gaming CPU on the planet in February 2018, with no exceptions.

Fact 2: different architecture cache layouts cannot be compared directly based solely on the size at each level, it is an apples to oranges comparison.

Fact 3: a 1080ti is the best value at the top end for gaming. A Titan XP is very slightly faster, but costs way more, & a Titan V is slightly faster again, but at triple (or more) of the cost.

Best gaming rig = 8700k@5GHz, 1080ti, 16GB 3200MHz RAM, nice big M.2 NVMe SSD