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If we see DRASTIC improvements in framerates for CROSSFIRE that indicates that the present drivers are immature.

I've been reading a lot about AMD/ATI and I'm really starting to worry about the company. Unless there's some drastic turnaround with their products my next PC will be Intel CPU and NVidia GPU instead of AMD/ATI.
 
lol i still cant open my catalyst control center. i opened task manager and then tried opening catalyst by right clicking then selecting it. It showed up on task manager for about 5 second then dissapears, strange. I really want my catalyst back but oops i went agianst my better judgement and installed these drivers without knowing what im doing... I still need help...
 

Yea, if we see real crappy fps on nVidias, then we'll know thats what we want?
Not following you there
 


So you're telling me that because ATI has just delivered anywhere between 10 and 50% fps increases in select games where the CPU was the limiting factor for crossfire setups that we should be worried about ATI ??

I don't care that these magical drivers are 6 months late, they got them here, and it does wonders for my rig. What have you been reading about ATI ? Maybe you read that they have had the best bang for your buck gpu solutions for the past year? Have you ignored the fabled Nvidia rebranding strategy and Physx debacle that is going on right now ? By debacle I mean that they are being total D-bags about the technology in some of their games, and their TWIMTBP games as well.

Get the facts straight man, I don't prefer Nvidia over ATI or Intel over AMD, what I want is the best performance possible out of every dollar I spend, now tell me how these drivers don't do that for me or why for some reason I should be 'worried' that ATI was able to do it.

IMO Nvidia is crapping their pants right now about these increases.

EXPLAIN it to me Photon, honestly explain it so it makes sense.
 
It seems they will be officially come out on monday but GURU3D seems to have them now:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=302639

"Though these drivers are not yet available on the official download page, Over at Quakecon Ian “Cabrtosr” McNaughton released Catalyst 9.8 drivers.
According to the latest info, with this driver, you should see significant performance increases on AMD platforms.
These improvements are more platform related – you will see gains of up to 50% in some titles (like Far Cry 2) when using a CrossFire solution with 4870 X2 or other 4xxx series in resolutions 16x10 and higher – you’ll see these gains mostly in CPU-bound situations. You will also see significant improvements in titles like HAWX, Crysis, Company of Heroes and World in Conflict."
 


the fc2 gains is a ripoff. they took some performance out of 9.3 to 9.4 and then decided to bring them back to make it look like theres a "real" performance improvement even when there's not.

the 4850s/4870s are well capable of those numbers before cat9.4. note: try to use cat 9.3. the only thing wherein i cant pitch my belief in is with the 4890. my theory is that cat 9.4 was a segmenting driver that was designed to properly segment the 4890 to a 4870, at least on farcry2.

i documented it right here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-265155_28_50.html

you're not getting new performance, they just did what is due 3 releases ago.
 

What I find interesting is, would those new improvements beat your current nVidia setup?
 
🙁 tested them on my i7 build, in a Crysis benchmark I downloaded the fps went up ~5fps at 2560x1600 using 4xAA.

but then when I actually played the game I couldn't play it a 1900x1200 4xAA, I had to turn the AA off, and uninstall the natural mod to get the 40fps I got in the benchmark.
 


good question. the gtx260-216 scores higher than the 4870 by 5fps if i remember correctly (im not yet home @ the time of this posting, thats 5fps versus the 4870 with cat9.3 btw). will post the screenie of the gtx260-216 scores.

im hurrying home to setup my new 1920x1080 LCD panel.

and to the guy who owns the trifire setup above, sorry to disappoint you.
 
* Total Frames: 2933, Total Time: 51.00s
* Average Framerate: 57.50
* Max. Framerate: 86.06 (Frame:414, 6.09s)
* Min. Framerate: 30.52 (Frame:1, 0.07s)
with 9.7


* Total Frames: 3145, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 61.65
* Max. Framerate: 101.44 (Frame:0, 0.01s)
* Min. Framerate: 44.06 (Frame:2, 0.07s)
with 9.8

best improvement so far THANKS!!! 😀
 


Disappointed ? Why would I be disappointed, it's not like FC2 is the only game getting moster fps gains from these drivers...
 
^ and its not like fc2 is the only game who got monster fps drops from 9.3 to 9.6. i have a feeling 9.3 and 9.8 would yield the same score (on single cards at least). the reason why i stuck with 9.3 until i sold my 4870. those are not real gains until proven otherwise.

anyhow, this is my gtx260 readings @ the settings similar to my 4870 tests:

gtx260fc2.jpg


and this is my gtx260 doing 1080p.

gtx260fc2_1080p.jpg


please note that on all my 4870 test i stuck with 2xAA since the game is already jaggies free @ that AA level (dx10.1 doing its job)
 
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