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CCC 9.4: 79.01fps

CCC 9.8: 99.26fps

Seeing a few fps more in warhead as well but I don't have any results atm.
 
It appears the driver block of the non use of MT on the cpu end has been fixed.
While some drops from previous drivers has occured, just like on the nVidia side, the overall difference is huge, and in many games.
Itll be explained by someone somewhere soon, and all the negative claims just wont hold IMHO
 


I agree, it's like somebody giving you 1000$ dollars, and then they (Nvidia fanbois) tell you that 100$ of that money was money that you lost a while ago. It just doesn't hold much water. :non:
 


apparently the drops that i was talking about was consistent from 9.4,9.5,9.6. im actually am not using the latest geforce driver due to some driver instability.



i dunno, accusing someone of being a fanboy because he's criticizing the brand you love just dont make sense, in which case you're professing more that you're a silly fan boy than the person you're accusing. the fact is you can easily correct the situation by testing them yourself (cat 9.3 vs cat 9.8), why wouldnt you?

like i said, if you're an unsuspecting user unaware of those FPS loss, these 9.8 gains would look legit.
 


lol by hating ATi your automatically are an nvidia fanboy... there is just no other option, unless you hate GPU manufacturers in general, but yet again you shouldn't be in this part of the forum then

(giggles to himself at the nvidia driver problems in the other thread)
 
If you lose 20% or whatever in 1 game, then gain back 40%, thats still 20%, and thats only 1 game.
Look at the list, they didnt do this in all those games.
Ive seen this mentioned elsewheres in 2 different forums, and in those other forums, the users assured those others that those numbers they posted were legit,.
Now, if theyd lost 50% fps, your think wed have heard about it now, by everyone? Have any links? Even 25%?, and even if it was 25%, need I remind you, this is still a 25% gain?
Important thing here is, I want to see some reviews, and compare them to old reviews. If the 4870x2 was behind the 260sli setup, is it kickin it now? Then all these claims will just evaporate
Im not saying youre lying, as there has been drops, and maybe this is somewhat of a setup, a suckerpunch if you will.
Think of this. You (ATI) still have alot of old gen HW to sell, you want to justify a higher cost of new products, gain marketshare and still move your old products.
How would you do this? Im playing the devils advocate, but even so, nVidia owners wont like this outcome.
OK, heres how

You dont make your driver increases known til the release of the new product. Simple as that. The increases drive down the competitions prices, you dont have to lower your old HW pricing as much, while at the same time, you also dont have to come in high with the new product, as you can edge that down, but nut not as high as it would have been, if not for the elevated value of the new found performance on your old HW, where itll maintain a higher selling point vs the competiion

Or, to make a long explanation short, watch for nVida cards values drop alot
 


if only the 4870 users here would show a progressive 9.3 vs 9.4 vs 9.7 vs 9.8 comparison then i'd probably rest my case.




why are you asking me for links showing a 50% drop in performance???? did i made such claim?

im only after the 4870 single card performance where i had an experience. (lost 10% fps)






and by criticizing ATI, i automatically hate ATI. it just so happened that fanboys treat matters like this like religion.
 
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=7641

* Battleforge DirectX 10/DirectX 10.1 performance improves of up to 50% with the largest gains in configurations using ATI CrossFireX™ technology.
* Company of Heroes DirectX 10 performance improves of up to 77%.
* Crysis DirectX 10 performance of ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode improves of up to 10% and quad mode performance improves of up to 34%.
* Crysis Warhead DirectX 10 performance of ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode improves of up to 7% and quad mode performance improves of up to 69%.
* Far Cry 2 DirectX 10 performance of ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode improves of up to 50% and quad mode performance improves of up to 88%.
* Tom Clancy’s H.A.W.X. DirectX 10/DirectX 10.1 performance of ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode improves of up to 40% and with quad mode performance improving of up to 60%.
* UnigineTropics OpenGL performance improvements of up to 20%.
* UnigineTropics DirectX 10 performance of ATI CrossFireX technology in quad mode improvements of up to 20%.
* World in Conflict DirectX 10 performance improvements of up to by 10%.
 



I can verify the COH, Crysis, anf FC2 gains are all legit, which means the other are probably true as well.

To Jaydee: I just can't see ATI releasing these drivers to try and sell more cards, or to try and lower Nvidia prices, I think when it comes down to it, they just finally figured out how to use the cpu to get all the juice out of these cards.
 




I don't think youre a fanboy, I just think you should recognize some great work by the ATI driver team and not try and poo on these driver because of a supposed 10-20% previous loss of fps in one game a while ago.
 
Just picked these drivers up and threw them onto my compy.

Crysis Benchmark Tool

DX10
64-bit
Very High (All settings)
16xQ AA
1920x1200

Catalyst 9.7 - 29.745 FPS
Catalyst 9.8 - 36.385 FPS

😀
 


Very nice, finally taking advantage of those four cores eh.
 
I have never seen QAA on anything but nvidia cards.

Also, I don't know if AA works by forcing through CCC, does it work for you?

What do you get with 4xAA in the benchmark? I hope alot more as right now you get the same as I do in the benchmark with 4xAA.
Click to expand...

I'll go ahead and run it on 4xAA.

As for the Q AA... I don't know. That's just what I set it to in the Crysis Benchmark Tool settings menu.
 
Ok,downloaded it and here is the result:

Test system:Q6600 @ 3.4,HD 4870X2 @ Stock,Win7 RTM X64 with 1920x1200 resolution

FarCry2(DX10) Benchmark tool
Settings used:Everything maxed out + 0xAA

CAT 9.7:
Average Framerate: 60.60
Max. Framerate: 94.98
Min. Framerate: 40.40

CAT 9.8:
Average Framerate: 86.37
Max. Framerate: 122.25
Min. Framerate: 62.85

CRYSIS(DX10) Benchmark tool
Settings used:I used a custom config called natural mod with 0xAA

CAT 9.7:
Overall Average FPS: 44.9

CAT 9.8:
Overall Average FPS: 46.7

I played the game too and i got about 1-2 FPS more than CAT 9.7.

Crysis Warhead(DX10) Beta Benchmark tool
Settings used:I used a Custom Ultra high config with 0xAA

CAT 9.7:
Min: 35.30 Max: 64.81 Avg: 48.22

CAT 9.8:
Min: 30.47 Max: 62.65 Avg: 47.82

This surprised me so i tested the game in Ambush level and i got about 4-5 FPS more than Cat 9.7,i think its because that the Benchmark tool is still in "Beta".

World in conflict(DX10) Benchmark tool:
Settings used:Everything maxed out with 16xAF and 0xAA:

CAT 9.7:
Average fps: 55
Min fps: 27
Max fps: 123

CAT 9.8:
Average fps: 58
Min fps: 28
Max fps: 127

Overall i'm pretty happy with the new drivers performance:)

 
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