Question Could someone help me with my particular pc build?

[PcBuild109]

Hi, I'm not an expert on pc builds and this would be the first time I have done so because I need a pc for virtualization (at least 15 vms running at the same time), for AI and photo/video editing and for large file storage, I need about 10TB but with the possibility of extension to 30TB, so I also need a very very good memory write and read speed. My budget is 1400 euro (or 1,537.11 dollars).

It should be easy to build and shouldn't include screen, mouse, keyboard and operating system, but only wireless and bluetooth connectivity.
I'm not going to use it for gaming and I'm not interest in the aesthetics of the PC, only the performance.

Here Is my build so far but It's not complete.
I'm out of budget of about 300$ dollars and the memory is not even enought 🙁
I need help to get the right hardware because It's my first time, nothing is set in stone so feel free to swap existing parts (but for AI I need an NVIDIA GPU).
Thanks

 

[logainofhades]

With Intel's current issues, I personally would not buy a 13th or 14th gen. They have claimed to have fixed the problems, but it's too early to really say it is truly fixed. If you decide to go with Intel still, be sure to update your bios to the latest revision. That PSU is not sufficient for a build of this caliber. Motherboard is overpriced. You do not need a gen 5 SSD. That founders edition 4070 is overpriced too. Frankly speaking, your budget is not enough for the level of system you are truly wanting. This is more in line with your budget.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($354.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SK Hynix Platinum P41 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($140.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1492.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-08 13:15 EDT-0400
Your best option might be to find a used Threadripper workstation.

 

[PcBuild109]

thank you, I will take that into account for my build and effetively maybe my budget is a little inadequate

With Intel's current issues, I personally would not buy a 13th or 14th gen. They have claimed to have fixed the problems, but it's too early to really say it is truly fixed. If you decide to go with Intel still, be sure to update your bios to the latest revision. That PSU is not sufficient for a build of this caliber. Motherboard is overpriced. You do not need a gen 5 SSD. That founders edition 4070 is overpriced too. Frankly speaking, your budget is not enough for the level of system you are truly wanting. This is more in line with your budget.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($354.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SK Hynix Platinum P41 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($140.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.29 @ Amazon)
Total: $1492.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-08 13:15 EDT-0400
Your best option might be to find a used Threadripper workstation.

 

[helper800]

thank you, I will take that into account for my build and effetively maybe my budget is a little inadequate

Are you using Linux or Windows?

This is about the best I can do sourcing parts from Germany:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor (€333.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Steel Legend WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€244.54 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6600 CL32 Memory (€238.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€434.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1588.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 18:34 CEST+0200

 

[PcBuild109]

Are you using Linux or Windows?

This is about the best I can do sourcing parts from Germany:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor (€333.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Steel Legend WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€244.54 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6600 CL32 Memory (€238.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€434.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1588.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-10 18:34 CEST+0200

I'm going to use both Linux and Windows, but Linux most of the time

 

[helper800]

I'm going to use both Linux and Windows, but Linux most of the time

Is the support for AMD graphics cards better for Linux than Nvidia cards?

 

[lantis3]

32GB is definitely not enough for 15 VMs

Why not a 64GB mini PC? with external storage of your choice (USB or NAS)?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=64gb+mini+pc

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Oops, did not see that you need an Nvidia card to do AI stuff.

 

[PcBuild109]

Is the support for AMD graphics cards better for Linux than Nvidia cards?

Yes, AMD graphics cards offer better support for Linux. However, I personally prefer Nvidia graphics cards. As someone who isn't an expert in PC builds and components, I would greatly appreciate any advice you might have.

 

[helper800]

Yes, AMD graphics cards offer better support for Linux. However, I personally prefer Nvidia graphics cards. As someone who isn't an expert in PC builds and components, I would greatly appreciate any advice you might have.

If the AI workloads you want to use are paramount over Linux usability then an Nvidia card may be your only choice.

 

[helper800]

Yes, AMD graphics cards offer better support for Linux. However, I personally prefer Nvidia graphics cards. As someone who isn't an expert in PC builds and components, I would greatly appreciate any advice you might have.

You may even want to use a 2x48 gb kit of RAM that would mean you can do up to 6gb of RAM for each of the 15/16 VMs. The 14700 CPU I linked has 8 P-cores and 12 E-cores which means you could assign 4-P cores and 12 E-cores to the VMs with some room to spare.

I will be the first to admit that I do not know much about using more than 1 or 2 VMs for anything so I may be off the mark with your specific use case. Let me know.

Here is a new build to reflect the above reccomendation. I also was able to add in a CPU with more cores (13900f) and a 2x48gb kit of RAM at the cost of a different motherboard, lower storage, and slower RAM. The overall build is about 100 euros closer to the budget than the previous build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900F 2 GHz 24-Core Processor (€389.15 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€180.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory (€222.83 @ Proshop)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€68.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€409.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case (€84.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1492.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-17 17:34 CEST+0200

 

[PcBuild109]

After much consideration and input from this forum, I have finalized my PC build.
Now I just want to confirm whether all the components are compatible with each other.
Here are the specifications of my final build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBbDbL

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor ($329.91 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($151.10 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1510.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

[helper800]

After much consideration and input from this forum, I have finalized my PC build.
Now I just want to confirm whether all the components are compatible with each other.
Here are the specifications of my final build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBbDbL

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor ($329.91 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($151.10 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1510.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Looks good. You may still want to consider more RAM (2x48gb) so you have a meaningful amount to use for yourself with the 15+ VMS running. Other than that, everything looks great.

 

[PcBuild109]

hi, if anyone is still in this thread, since I have now ordered the components, can you recommend a possible replacement for the case that is less expensive and slightly smaller in size if possible? thanks

 

[Why_Me]

hi, if anyone is still in this thread, since I have now ordered the components, can you recommend a possible replacement for the case that is less expensive and slightly smaller in size if possible? thanks

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor ($308.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($145.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($516.91 @ Amazon)
Case: *Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.97 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1359.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-29 11:05 EST-0500

 

[helper800]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor ($308.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($145.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($516.91 @ Amazon)
Case: *Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.97 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1359.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-29 11:05 EST-0500

That Phanteks is not a smaller case... 51L case. The Fractal design Pop air is 46L LMK if I am wrong.

hi, if anyone is still in this thread, since I have now ordered the components, can you recommend a possible replacement for the case that is less expensive and slightly smaller in size if possible? thanks

This case is 35.5L volume which means that its relatively small for a mid sized case. Any smaller and you are getting towards micro ATX cases.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor ($309.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Riptide WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($145.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($516.91 @ Amazon)
Case: ENDORFY Ventum 200 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($72.00 @ ModMyMods)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1361.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-29 15:49 EST-0500