Question CPU speed drops while gaming, but temperature is normal ?

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
Status
Not open for further replies.
M

mustafa_eid

Dec 8, 2023
14
0
10
I have a problem with my laptop. When I play a game, for example, GTA V, I always play with the charge connected. The game is in good condition. After 5 minutes, the game freezes, and the CPU clock decreases from 1800mhz to 400mhz, so the framerates decrease. When I remove the charge and connect it again, it returns to normal, and after 5 minutes it repeats again, and so on.

My HP laptop specifications:
Processor: intel core i7-8565U @ 1.80GHz
RAM: 8.00GB
GPU: Nvidia MX130 (4GB)
BIOS:Insyde F.46
 
Could be the graphics card not the CPU; I assume you already tried lowest settings with DX10 just to see how that works?

Also what other games do you play on there? Anything roughly as demanding such as The Division or Ghost Recon Wildlands or something? Does it happen with other equivalently demanding games is what I'm wondering.
 
mustafa_eid said:
I have a problem with my laptop. When I play a game, for example, GTA V, I always play with the charge connected. The game is in good condition. After 5 minutes, the game freezes, and the CPU clock decreases from 1800mhz to 400mhz, so the framerates decrease. When I remove the charge and connect it again, it returns to normal, and after 5 minutes it repeats again, and so on.

My HP laptop specifications:
Processor: intel core i7-8565U @ 1.80GHz
RAM: 8.00GB
GPU: Nvidia MX130 (4GB)
BIOS:Insyde F.46
Click to expand...
With a laptop, it could be almost ANYTHING getting hot. Voltage regulators, graphic system...
Have you tried a laptop cooler ?
 
mustafa_eid said:
No, it is from the processor. I monitored the laptop parts using the MSIafterburner program. The decrease is in the CPU clock.
Click to expand...
What I'm saying is the game might be overloading the GPU; clock speeds on CPUs can drop in relation to global heat effects as well. Also; I'm asking if you have tried any similarly demanding games to identify if this is truly specific to GTA V or not.
 
I see many complaints about gaming laptops not performing well.

Usually gaming while plugged in.

One common cause is thermal throttling.

Laptop coolers must, of necessity be small and light.

The coolers are also relatively underpowered.

If you run an app such as HWMonitor or HWinfo, you will get the current, minimum, and maximum cpu temperatures. Set to see each individual core.

For intel processors, if you see a max of 100c. in red, it means you have throttled.



The cpu will lower it's multiplier and power draw to protect itself

until the situation reverses.

At a lower multiplier, your cpu usage may well be at 100%

What can you do?

First, see that your cooler airways are clear and that the cooler fan is spinning.

Use a windows balanced power profile, not the performance profile.

Set a minimum cpu performance to something like 20%


It is counter-intuitive, but, try changing the windows balanced power profile advanced functions to a max of 90% instead of the default of 100%

You may not notice the reduced cpu performance.
 
Hey there,

Download Throttlestop. Install it and run it. Open the 'Limits' tab, and run a TS Bench. The limits box will show the reasons your CPU is throttling.

If there a red or yellow lights then the CPU is throttling.

When was the last time you cleaned your laptop? Changed thermal paste? If not, you need to clean it out, including the fans, so you have to disassemble the laptop to do this. Then test again.

Are all your drivers and bios up to date?
 
Roland Of Gilead said:
Hey there,

Download Throttlestop. Install it and run it. Open the 'Limits' tab, and run a TS Bench. The limits box will show the reasons your CPU is throttling.

If there a red or yellow lights then the CPU is throttling.

When was the last time you cleaned your laptop? Changed thermal paste? If not, you need to clean it out, including the fans, so you have to disassemble the laptop to do this. Then test again.

Are all your drivers and bios up to date?
Click to expand...
The laptop is clean of dust and I think the temperature is acceptable


https://imgur.com/a/b9REFLl

This is a picture of what is happening. What is the solution?
 
Last edited:
Yes, your CPU is throttling at PL1 and EDP other, along prochot trips. It could be HP have a low prochot setting. My HP is set at 93c. Yours could be lower.

@uWebb429 might be able to help you here. He is the author of TS and often helps out here on the forum.

If you open up the FVIR tab can you select the unlock adjustment voltage? If so, you can undervolt the CPU. This may help with temps.

Also, on the TPL tab, see if it's possible to change the default PL1 setting to something higher. Maybe 65w to be sure. Run the tests again looking out for any red lights.
 
@mustafa_eid

The 8565U has a 15W TDP rating. Many HP laptops enforce this power limit during any game or long term stress test. The CPU will slow down as much as necessary so it does not exceed 15W. U series CPUs are not designed for gaming.

Post a ThrottleStop TPL screenshot so I can see how your CPU is setup. Make sure the MMIO Lock box is checked. Also clear the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen. That is the usual thing that causes throttling to 400 MHz.

Not much time for answering questions on the weekend. Too busy watching football.
 
uWebb429 said:
@mustafa_eid

The 8565U has a 15W TDP rating. Many HP laptops enforce this power limit during any game or long term stress test. The CPU will slow down as much as necessary so it does not exceed 15W. U series CPUs are not designed for gaming.

Post a ThrottleStop TPL screenshot so I can see how your CPU is setup. Make sure the MMIO Lock box is checked. Also clear the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen. That is the usual thing that causes throttling to 400 MHz.

Not much time for answering questions on the weekend. Too busy watching football.
Click to expand...
https://imgur.com/a/aTFtNC0
View: https://imgur.com/a/aTFtNC0





thanks for your reply
You are like a hope for me because I have suffered from the problem since I got the laptop and I was searching for it and did not find it. I found out about this site and that you can solve the problem. I was excited.
 
@mustafa_eid
Check MMIO lock.

Clear Disable Controls and set PL1 to 30.

Run a log file while you are using your computer. Play a game for 15 minutes. Your last log file was when your computer was mostly idle. Exit ThrottleStop so it can write all data to the log file.

There is no solution for many HP laptops. They are designed to throttle based on power consumption, not temperature. If the above does not get you over the 15W wall then look into removing the Intel Dynamic Tuning driver in the Device Manager.
 
uWebb429 said:
@mustafa_eid
Check MMIO lock.

Clear Disable Controls and set PL1 to 30.

Run a log file while you are using your computer. Play a game for 15 minutes. Your last log file was when your computer was mostly idle. Exit ThrottleStop so it can write all data to the log file.

There is no solution for many HP laptops. They are designed to throttle based on power consumption, not temperature. If the above does not get you over the 15W wall then look into removing the Intel Dynamic Tuning driver in the Device Manager.
Click to expand...
Play for 15 minutes
pastebin.com

DATE TIME MULTI C0% CKMOD BAT_mW TEMP VID POWER2023-12- - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
pastebin.com pastebin.com
 
@mustafa_eid

Did you make all of the changes that I suggested? Post some updated screenshots if you are not sure.

The log file shows lots and lots of PL1 and PL2 power limit throttling. This is typical for HP laptops with 8th Gen U series processors. If ThrottleStop is setup correctly, it is difficult or impossible to solve this problem. Do you have any HP control software running on your computer. Uninstall it if you do.

Have a look for the Intel Dynamic Turning driver in the Device Manager. Disable that, uninstall it and prevent it from being re-installed. I have zero experience with this driver so try searching Google for more information about this driver. It is the only thing you can try when ThrottleStop does not solve your problem.
 
@mustafa_eid
Half of your CPU is disabled. Run msconfig, select the Boot tab, press the Advanced options button and make sure the Number of processors box is not checked. Press OK and reboot. The Task Manager should be showing 4 cores and 8 threads. The ThrottleStop monitoring table should show 8 lines of data.

Check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window.

You will probably still have a power limit throttling problem. Have you looked for the dynamic tuning driver?
 
mustafa_eid said:
Do I have to always open the stop throttling program for the changes to apply?
Click to expand...
Yes, you always have to run ThrottleStop if you want its settings applied. Here is a guide that shows how to add ThrottleStop to the Task Scheduler so it always starts when Windows starts.

www.techpowerup.com

Effective clock speed

Hi, I have a problem with my CPU (8700K), which is that my effective core clock speeds decrease after a while. I have an all core OC set to 4.7GHz and initially when starting the PC, the effective core clocks are 4.7GHz as well when CPU is under load. These are later (like 10 mins later after...
www.techpowerup.com www.techpowerup.com
 
After searching on Google, I found a tool that eliminates the throttling caused by Intel Dynamic Tuning. It is effective. The throttling is still present, but it goes away after a while without removing the charger from the laptop. Take a look here, please.

pastebin.com

DATE TIME MULTI C0% CKMOD BAT_mW TEMP VID POWER2023-12- - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
pastebin.com pastebin.com
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom