Which motherboard ? With all b450/550 and x470/570 all you need is updated BIOS but some b450/550 may not have enough power. With 5800x you also need good cooling. R7 5700x may be better choice because it runs cooler, demands less power and easier to cool while having almost same performance.
That one is barely enough for 3600 let alone for 8 core CPU. The reason AMD doesn't supply coolers for higher end processors is that they don't have any adequate ones.
Core count isn't really relevant when you're talking about single CCD thermals it's power consumption. It's the same cooler that comes with the 5600/X which uses the same amount of power as the 5700X. It's not a good solution, or one I would use period, but it would work. Given that the op didn't mention cooling at all it's something that needs to be addressed.
The 5600x has nothing to do with the 5700x.
I'll say it again since you clearly didn't get it the first time: core count doesn't matter when talking about single CCD thermals only power consumption does (CCD count is really the only thing that matters outside of power consumption really).
I understand what you said and there's no need to say it again,
The 3600XT is a 95W part with a different power profile than the 3600 (which is 65W) so of course they're not the same. The 5700X is a 65W part that shares the exact same power profile as the 5600/5600X your comparison doesn't make sense.
With what you're saying, the 5600x and the 5700x are the same, whether you're saying that or not.
When looking at them from only a thermal perspective they are and that's one of the reasons why the 5700X is such a great part.
The AMD was always ''playing'' with the currents
Yeah that's because you're removing the power limit and have 2 more cores when you do it (the power increase is proportional to the core increase when comparing the 5700X to 5600/X). The only thing stopping the 5700X from using more power is its default 65W profile.
Core count within same architecture of course does count matters for amount of heat energy, it simply needs more energy to run more cores, just physics 101. More (electrical) energy, more heat because it does more work. Otherwise an 18 wheeler could run on moped engine or a battleship on outboard engine.
You're so astoundingly wrong it's almost as though you're trying to be. The 5700X shares a power profile with the 5600/X which means it's limited to the same power consumption. Unless the user (or errant motherboard defaults) overrides said limits it will use the same amount of power despite having two more cores. It also uses less voltage under full load due to said power limits and increased core count.
Those are artificial limits that have nothing to do with physics and produce different performance at different levels of power consumption.You're so astoundingly wrong it's almost as though you're trying to be. The 5700X shares a power profile with the 5600/X which means it's limited to the same power consumption. Unless the user (or errant motherboard defaults) overrides said limits it will use the same amount of power despite having two more cores.
Just in case you still don't understand reality:
That's how they set them to operate within those parameters and keep them on the leash. You can always override to change performance.
What exactly is the point you're trying to make here? Every AMD retail box part can be made to suck up more power should the user desire.
It CAN BE MADE/FORCED to do so but certainly do not produce same performance which is work done.
What does this even mean? what can be forced to what? what same performance?
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