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I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I think I'm
going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of DDR into the 5A.
I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line, so
I'm thinking about PC3200.

I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.

I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.
No worries there.

I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A. As
far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com detector
declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume it's the older
one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg right before they started
selling the Pros, IIRC.

So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the 2700
instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm not
overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.

Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.

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DDR PC3200 runs fine in k7s5a, had a gig of ocz running in mine for a while.


doughy


"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9524C98503CFCimamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...
> I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
> now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I think I'm
> going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of DDR into the
5A.
> I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line, so
> I'm thinking about PC3200.
>
> I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
> moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
> PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
> also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.
>
> I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.
> No worries there.
>
> I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A. As
> far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com detector
> declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume it's the older
> one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg right before they
started
> selling the Pros, IIRC.
>
> So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the 2700
> instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm not
> overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.
>
> Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.
>
> --
> fD


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Thanks Doughnut.

"Doughnut" <doughnut@doughnut.com> wrote in
news:40f3af0c$0$6448$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com:

> DDR PC3200 runs fine in k7s5a, had a gig of ocz running in mine for a
> while.
>
>
> doughy
>
>
> "fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9524C98503CFCimamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...
>> I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several
>> months now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I
>> think I'm going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of
>> DDR into the
> 5A.
>> I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line,
>> so I'm thinking about PC3200.
>>
>> I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the
>> idea of moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory.
>> There is a PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other
>> hand, there is also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.
>>
>> I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this
>> board. No worries there.
>>
>> I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A.
>> As far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com
>> detector declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume
>> it's the older one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg
>> right before they
> started
>> selling the Pros, IIRC.
>>
>> So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the
>> 2700 instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm
>> not overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.
>>
>> Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> fD
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I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed my BIOS
recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I ran SDRAM
for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big Difference!.

I am running www.mushkin.com memory 2x512 @2.5 CAS

I am not overclocked or anything now, since there is really no reason with
low CPU prices these days. I would recommend a brand name chip(s) to
alleviate and chances of corruption, but cheap memory does work. Its what
your comfortable with.

I am on my 72nd K7S5A ( I build computers) and have only had ONE failure
that was a true defect. This boards rocks.

Don't worry about memory speed as long as you are OVER the minimum (pc2100).

Get the most for the cheapest you can.

Hope this helps.
The Tech Support Guy

www.ComputerRelative.com






"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9524C98503CFCimamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...
> I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
> now. I recently ran across a system with a K7VMA in it, and I think I'm
> going to swap the SDRAM into it, and plop a 512MB stick of DDR into the
5A.
> I might add more later; or I might upgrade my board on down the line, so
> I'm thinking about PC3200.
>
> I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
> moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
> PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
> also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.
>
> I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.
> No worries there.
>
> I think I'd go with the PC3200 if I'm sure it will work in the K7S5A. As
> far as board version: Belarc says it's a 1.X, and the crucial.com detector
> declares it a 3.X. I guess I'll play it safe and assume it's the older
> one; although I did buy it for a song from Newegg right before they
started
> selling the Pros, IIRC.
>
> So my question is, does anyone know any reason I should go with the 2700
> instead? And should I steer clear of the Rosewill? Note I'm not
> overclocking or anything. I just want a good, stable system.
>
> Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Thanks.
>
> --
> fD
 
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:

> I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed my BIOS
> recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I ran
> SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big Difference!.

Cool. I hoped as much.

<snip>

> I am on my 72nd K7S5A ( I build computers) and have only had ONE failure
> that was a true defect. This boards rocks.

72, wow. I've been really happy with the board. I do get that oops where
the CMOS or BIOS or whatever loses it every once in a while, but it's
rare, and I know the few changes I need in the BIOS by heart so it's quick
to deal with. I know I should flash it, but I'm lazy; lazy in my usual
way, which is to make things too complicated ("oh, I should get a BIOS
Savior first," but I never do, so I never flash <g>).

> Don't worry about memory speed as long as you are OVER the minimum
> (pc2100).

Sounds good. There was just one naysayer who kept popping up in the
groups archive saying that PC3200 wouldn't work in this board, but I
suppose that could be a PEBKAC or something.

> Get the most for the cheapest you can.
>
> Hope this helps.

It does. Thanks a lot.

<snip rest>

--
fD
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"Tech Support Guy" <helpedyou@ComputerRelative.com> writes:
>I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed my BIOS
>recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I ran SDRAM
>for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big Difference!.

Really? How big a difference? I thought the rule of thumb was that
most people would see under 10% improvement switching from SD to DD.
And only that if they got out the stopwatch and timed before and after.

Now, to contribute something to the group, something cute I just found.

Running some number crunching using www.alpertron.com.ar/ECM.HTM
which is a Java applet. I found that on the ECS board I can get
more than a 10% improvement in speed if I use the -server option
for the version 1.4 Hotspot server vm instead of the default client
vm. For little things that don't take long to run the server takes
longer to get started and do all the optimization work but for long
running intensive apps the server optimizations will win out. I
haven't figured out how to get that to work with version 1.3 yet
and someone who tried it says he can't figure it out either.
 
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"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news😛an.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:
>
> > I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
> > recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
> > SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.
>
> Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]
Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.
 
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"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news😛an.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:
>
> > I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
> > recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
> > SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.
>
> Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]
Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.
 
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"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news😛an.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:
>
> > I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
my BIOS
> > recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
ran
> > SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
Difference!.
>
> Cool. I hoped as much.
[snip]
Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
to DDR.
Of course?????
Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
system, or I believe you are wasting your money.
 
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"Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> wrote in
news:wvoJc.81403$a24.43341@attbi_s03:

>
> "fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news😛an.2004.07.15.00.17.43.736780@operamail.com...
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:46:36 -0700, Tech Support Guy wrote:
>>
>> > I run a XP 2600+ in an older version K7S5A 1.0 as you. I flashed
> my BIOS
>> > recently and the ceiling on this board is 2600. As for memory, I
> ran
>> > SDRAM for a short time, then quickly moved to DDR. Big
> Difference!.
>>
>> Cool. I hoped as much.
> [snip]
> Most of what I heard in this ng over the last several years is that
> there is very little performance difference when switching from PC-133
> to DDR.
> Of course?????
> Don't want to rain on your parade, but I would advise buying better
> memory ONLY if you would be able to use it on your next, faster
> system, or I believe you are wasting your money.

That's okay, you're not raining on my parade. It's double the memory (1
512 stick as opposed to two 128s), and its PC 3200, so odds are good I can
use it on down the line (I don't buy cutting edge; I stay about a year back
or more).

I just stuck in the Rosewill and both (GNU) Linux and Windows are happy
with it. I put the two SDRAM sticks in this here backup box along with a
third, and Windows 98 is doing fine. Now to check out Fedora Core 2--128
MB wasn't enough, it ran like a--er--dogg under X.

Thanks for your input. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a *big*
difference between SDRAM and DDR. What makes me happy is we seem to get
the best deal on the fairly current RAM--I mean, not that I checked too
heavily, but I think it would have cost me more to buy more SDRAM. Happily
the K7S5A takes either, and my older K7VMA gets the hand-me-down SDRAM.

--
fD
 
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Enjoy,
It should work just great.

"fLameDogg" <flamedogg@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9528AE3F34327imamidnighttoken@130.133.1.4...

>
> That's okay, you're not raining on my parade. It's double the
memory (1
> 512 stick as opposed to two 128s), and its PC 3200, so odds are good
I can
> use it on down the line (I don't buy cutting edge; I stay about a
year back
> or more).
>
> I just stuck in the Rosewill and both (GNU) Linux and Windows are
happy
> with it. I put the two SDRAM sticks in this here backup box along
with a
> third, and Windows 98 is doing fine. Now to check out Fedora Core
2--128
> MB wasn't enough, it ran like a--er--dogg under X.
>
> Thanks for your input. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a
*big*
> difference between SDRAM and DDR. What makes me happy is we seem to
get
> the best deal on the fairly current RAM--I mean, not that I checked
too
> heavily, but I think it would have cost me more to buy more SDRAM.
Happily
> the K7S5A takes either, and my older K7VMA gets the hand-me-down
SDRAM.
>
> --
> fD
 
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Le 13/07/2004 02:48, fLameDogg a ecrit :

> I've been running my K7S5A with 256MB (2 X 128) SDRAM for several months
....
> I'm not going for the last utter tweak, but I am attracted to the idea of
> moving up from SDRAM to DDR. I'm looking at Rosewill memory. There is a
> PC3200 stick for a good price at CAS 3-4-4. On the other hand, there is
> also PC2700 with CAS of 2.5-3-3.
>
> I do know that the memory will only operate at PC2100 speed in this board.

i have a K7S5A and tried PC3200 memory (two brand and two size tested on asus
board with memcheck) dont boot.
most people tell it should work but none of them has tried it.
unfortunately a don't have acces to PC2100, PC2700 and xp of different
speed to test and find what is the problem.
official doc tell PC3200 is not supported but i have to check sis735 spec.
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Le 13/07/2004 11:46, Doughnut a ecrit :

> DDR PC3200 runs fine in k7s5a, had a gig of ocz running in mine for a while.

please
can you tell board and bios revision
type of cpu and numbers of chips on your pc3200.
i have a K7S5A and PC3200 and it dont boot.
thanks
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Franck Pissotte wrote:
>
> please
> can you tell board and bios revision
> type of cpu and numbers of chips on your pc3200.
> i have a K7S5A and PC3200 and it dont boot.
> thanks

Your PSU may not be powerful enough. I couldn't get my K7S5a Pro to
boot with PC3200 memory, and the most likely cause was that my PSU only
has 175 watts on the 3.3v and 5v rails. I'm going to pick up a 500w
supply at Cals tomorrow, I'm fairly certain it should fix my boot issue.
 
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Franck Pissotte <franck.pissotte@alussinan.org> wrote in
news:2mekjjFlgcueU1@uni-berlin.de:

> have a K7S5A and tried PC3200 memory (two brand and two size tested
> on asus
> board with memcheck) dont boot.
> most people tell it should work but none of them has tried it.
> unfortunately a don't have acces to PC2100, PC2700 and xp of different
> speed to test and find what is the problem.
> official doc tell PC3200 is not supported but i have to check sis735
> spec.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Just to give you a data point, my
Rosewill 512MB stick of PC3200 is booting and working just fine on the
K7S5A. I note that someone mentioned your power supply. I have a fairly
decent Antec TruPower 340W in my box. Just switched out the GeForce 2 for
a Radeon 9100, and so far so good. The processor is an XP 1600+.

--
fD



--

fD
 
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Le 24/07/2004 11:50, Dekaritae a ecrit :
> Franck Pissotte wrote:
>>
>> please
>> can you tell board and bios revision
>> type of cpu and numbers of chips on your pc3200.
>> i have a K7S5A and PC3200 and it dont boot.
>> thanks
>
> Your PSU may not be powerful enough. I couldn't get my K7S5a Pro to
> boot with PC3200 memory, and the most likely cause was that my PSU only
> has 175 watts on the 3.3v and 5v rails.

mine tell 125W 3,3V 14A and 5v 20A.
but i am not sure it is the cause of the problem.
i have a duron with FSB at 100Mhz, clock of K7S5A and
sis chipset are know to not support some combinations
of fsb/memory speed.
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Franck Pissotte wrote:

> mine tell 125W 3,3V 14A and 5v 20A.
> but i am not sure it is the cause of the problem.
> i have a duron with FSB at 100Mhz, clock of K7S5A and
> sis chipset are know to not support some combinations
> of fsb/memory speed.

The power supply I was using before had 35A on the 5V line, and 20A on
the 3.3V line (if I recall correctly, the one used by memory), and that
wasn't sufficient for 512mb of PC3200 memory. My current one is a 550W
supply with 30A on the 3.3V line, and it's very stable.
 
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