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bye
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
"Manny Borges" <manny_borges@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Okp$DLwtFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I repeated asked you to read what you were replying to.
>
> I am not going to reiterate myself over and over again.
>
> You wrote:
> " It is unrealistic to suggest to someone
>> who is posting here to spend money in the hopes that it "may" work -- or
>> not!"
>
>
> I responded to this fact several times.
>
> AGAIN ...... read what you are replying to.
>
> I guess we will have to drop it unless you have time this weekend to take
> a reading comprehension course.
>
>
> --
> Manny Borges
> MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
> MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>
> The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with.
> -- Marty Feldman
> "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:%23FCITVltFHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I test outside the box all the time, but as I build and sell, I have loads
>>of new and used parts to test with. It is unrealistic to suggest to
>>someone who is posting here to spend money in the hopes that it "may"
>>work -- or not!
>>
>> Based upon that, the best choice for the average person is to go with the
>> documentation supplied with their computer or visit www.crucial.com or
>> www.kingston.com , use their memory configurator, and see what THEY
>> recommend.
>>
>> Sorry, but I can just not agree with you on this so I guess we will have
>> to let it go.
>>
>> Bye!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> Quote from: George Ankner
>> "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>>
>> "Manny Borges" <manny_borges@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OXkWX6ktFHA.664@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Again, please read exactly what you are replying to before you reply. I
>>> know you are not a simpleton, but you are starting to sound like one.
>>>
>>> I NEVER said to simply disregard the manual and I DID specify that it
>>> may not work and that the OP should make sure that they have the ability
>>> to return the RAM for a diffrent type if it does not work.
>>>
>>> Hardware product documentation is typicall woefully short on technical
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Making an educated decision to go outside the box with a clear
>>> understanding of what is being done and a clear backup plan is not a bad
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> Simply accepting a technical limitation without testing it when there is
>>> no obvious downside is ridiculous.
>>> --
>>> Manny Borges
>>> MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
>>> MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>>>
>>> The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write
>>> with.
>>> -- Marty Feldman
>>> "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message news:OhmqQXatFHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> So you are saying that the person "should not" abide by what is
>>>> specified in his motherboard manual? Bad advise, unless you personally
>>>> have tested the RAM you specify, on the same motherboard that the O/P
>>>> has, and have found it to function without problem!
>>>>
>>>> If you have done so, please state this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>> Quote from: George Ankner
>>>> "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>>>>
>>>> "Manny Borges" <manny_borges@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:O3k$%23kStFHA.1284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> First, the rude:
>>>>>
>>>>> "And you have to ask? You can only use 2100 and 2400 obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias "
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, he did have to ask. The documentation could have been produced
>>>>> before PC2700 ram even existed.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now the shortsighted:
>>>>>
>>>>> "you will gain nothing by using the more expensive RAM as your
>>>>> M/B is not designed to utilize the extra speed of this newer RAM.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User"
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is no reason to buy any RAM faster than
>>>>> PC2400 for your motherboard.
>>>>> Bobby"
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe I detailed EXACTLY why these were shortsighted statements.
>>>>> If you have any questions, reread my original post a few times then
>>>>> ask something specific instead of a generic "why".
>>>>>
>>>>> As for technical accuracy, again, I detailed the pros and cons of
>>>>> deviation from using the expected RAM speed and reported my personal
>>>>> experiences.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a difference between a correct answer and the right answer. I
>>>>> try to give the right answers.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Manny Borges
>>>>> MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
>>>>> MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>>>>>
>>>>> The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write
>>>>> with.
>>>>> -- Marty Feldman
>>>>> "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> message news:u1eKpQNtFHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Be specific. Which answers are rude, short sighted and inaccurate. I
>>>>>> see none posted. Everyone of the posts gave the O/P the correct
>>>>>> answer!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote from: George Ankner
>>>>>> "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
>>>>>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Manny Borges" <manny_borges@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OsT1c1KtFHA.1848@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Lots of rude answers, and none of them acurate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had no issues using faster clocked ram than my board says it
>>>>>>> supports on many systems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have found that most ram ram costs about the same per MB ,
>>>>>>> regardless of speed, with the exception of the latest and greatest
>>>>>>> flavor of the day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Buying slow ram is like throwing money out.
>>>>>>> If you update your proc and mobo, or buy a new computer, you will
>>>>>>> pobably be all set to transfer this ram to the new system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did say *possibly*. The new system might be bigger and badder and
>>>>>>> you may need faster/diffrent RAM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But isn't possibly, better than not at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And of course the RAM might not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I highly doubt that. Make sure you can return or exchange it if
>>>>>>> need be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, ignore the shortsighted answers you have previously recieved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Manny Borges
>>>>>>> MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
>>>>>>> MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write
>>>>>>> with.
>>>>>>> -- Marty Feldman
>>>>>>> "jercs" <jercs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:B54523CA-FBDE-4E6F-80B5-B117C783755A@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>I am planning to upgrade my DDR, i want to ask if it is OK to use
>>>>>>>>PC4000 with
>>>>>>>> my motherboard, my MB says that i can use PC2100 and PC2400
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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