DECK: Art + Pain

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Pretty straightforward Bruise & Bleed Toreador-Antitribu deck w/ some
intercept. Never played this kind of deck before so I am not sure if I
should have included some rush. Mylan Horseed is kinda cute in here but
I don't know if he'll be so useful. Thinking about adding Carlton Van
Wylk instead. He would add to the intercept angle I have going and
would make hunting a little more complicated for opposing vampires.
Plus he can dodge as a strike so his chances of making it out alive are
pretty decent. I really like him. Thoughts/suggestions always
appreciated. Thanks!

Crypt: 12 Vampires Max Cap. 9 Min Cap. 4 Avg Cap. 7
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1x Rosa Martinez 9 AUS CEL FOR PRE Toreador-Antitribu:3 Bishop
2x Veneri Carboni 8 ani AUS CEL PRE Toreador-Antitribu:3 Priscus
2x Miller Delmardigan, Teacher of Bahari 8 aus CEL PRE pro
Toreador-Antitribu:2 Bishop
1x Lachlan, Noddist 8 AUS CEL dom PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
Archbishop
2x Greta Kircher 7 AUS CEL obf PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
1x Jost Werner 6 ani AUS PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
1x Ian Wallingford 6 aus CEL PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
1x Christos Mantigo 5 aus cel dom obf pre Toreador-Antitribu:3
1x Sabrina 4 aus cel pre Toreador-Antitribu:3

Master - 16
5x Blood Doll
1x Fetish Club Hunting Ground
2x Art of Pain
4x Palla Grande
4x Sudden Reversal

Action - 14
2x Art Scam
5x Enchant Kindred
5x Legal Manipulations
2x Sanguine Instruction

Combat - 35
8x Blur
6x Psyche
5x Pursuit
5x Taste of Vitae
5x Flash
6x Sideslip

Reaction - 23
8x Forced Awakening
5x Quicken Sight
5x Precognition
5x Telepathic Misdirection

Allies/Retainers - 1
1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)

Equipment - 1
1x Crimson Sentinel
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|Crypt: 12 Vampires Max Cap. 9 Min Cap. 4 Avg Cap. 7
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|1x Rosa Martinez 9 AUS CEL FOR PRE Toreador-Antitribu:3 Bishop
|2x Veneri Carboni 8 ani AUS CEL PRE Toreador-Antitribu:3 Priscus
|2x Miller Delmardigan, Teacher of Bahari 8 aus CEL PRE pro
|Toreador-Antitribu:2 Bishop
|1x Lachlan, Noddist 8 AUS CEL dom PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
|Archbishop
|2x Greta Kircher 7 AUS CEL obf PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
|1x Jost Werner 6 ani AUS PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
|1x Ian Wallingford 6 aus CEL PRE Toreador-Antitribu:2
|1x Christos Mantigo 5 aus cel dom obf pre Toreador-Antitribu:3
|1x Sabrina 4 aus cel pre Toreador-Antitribu:3

You may want to lower your average capacity a little here. Miller is a
rock if you decide to add a little rush, with his extra strength, but
Christos for instance probably should be replaced with someone else.
Rosa is also doubtful, since she takes a turn extra to transfer up
(capacity 9). Maybe replace those two with one copy each of Antoinette
duChamp (Caitiff, cap 1, cel pre) and a (cel pre) 3-cap - take your
pick.

I'd be tempted myself to get rid of Ian Wallingford as well in favour
of a 3rd copy of either Millar or a second Jost Werner.

|Master - 16
|5x Blood Doll
|1x Fetish Club Hunting Ground
|2x Art of Pain
|4x Palla Grande
|4x Sudden Reversal

Not a bad selection. The Hunting Ground can probably go, and you may
want a Barrens or Dreams of the Sphinx in here. Suddens is really a
metagame choice, but I would likely choose to replace at least 2 of
them with Fame, and the other two maybe with Haven Uncovered (Tension
in the Ranks having a tendency to backfire in decks without much
damage prevention).

|Action - 14
|2x Art Scam
|5x Enchant Kindred
|5x Legal Manipulations
|2x Sanguine Instruction

Sanguine likely has to go, and I would up the number of actions in
general. Go for 18 actions, add 4 (or so) Nose of the Hound for rush
(at +1 stealth and with a first round maneuver) and maybe 2 Arson (or 2
more Art Scam if you have them). Flurry of Action is another good
choice.

|Combat - 35
|8x Blur
|6x Psyche
|5x Pursuit
|5x Taste of Vitae
|5x Flash
|6x Sideslip

Solid. Maybe a bit more Blur than I'd have chosen myself, but that's
mostly something you'll have to test. You could also likely lose a
Sideslip or so and instead add more Psyche!, if S:CE is common in your
playgroup.

Weighted Walking Sticks could be a fun addition to this, and Pulled
Fangs also spring to mind.

|Reaction - 23
|8x Forced Awakening
|5x Quicken Sight
|5x Precognition
|5x Telepathic Misdirection

Good. I'd diversify a little, dropping 1-2 off Quicken and Pecog in
favour of Eagle Sight.

|Allies/Retainers - 1
|1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
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|Equipment - 1
|1x Crimson Sentinel

Crimson is too good not to include, even if you'll often not see him
for most of the game. But the deck doesn't have room for a bigger
equipment angle, otherwise you could consider Vast Wealth or Consealed
Weapon.
A sportsbike (or Mr. Winthrop) are always good choices if you do decide
to up this a tad.

Anyway, good luck and have fun


Regards,

Patrick,
Columbus, OH

 

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doh, before I finished my post you have said it all

 

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<evil_inside1999@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Pretty straightforward Bruise & Bleed Toreador-Antitribu deck w/ some
> intercept. Never played this kind of deck before so I am not sure if I
> should have included some rush. Mylan Horseed is kinda cute in here but
> I don't know if he'll be so useful. Thinking about adding Carlton Van
> Wylk instead. He would add to the intercept angle I have going and
> would make hunting a little more complicated for opposing vampires.
> Plus he can dodge as a strike so his chances of making it out alive are
> pretty decent. I really like him. Thoughts/suggestions always
> appreciated. Thanks!
>

Consider adding Aire of Elation. That keeps you prey guessing at the amount
of the bleed. Maybe you can trick him into blocking even if you have no
modifier in hand.

Maybe you should diversify your intercept cards. 5, 5, 5 is not ideal when
you can use each card only once per action. Consider Enhanced Senses,
Spirit's Touch, My Enemy's Enemy, and Eagle's Sight!

What the others have said about your average capacity is very true. It is
too high. Use 3 copies of Miller, 1 or 2 copies of Greta one 6 cap. The rest
should be 5 caps or smaller, e.g. Victor Revell, Loyalist.

And yes, some rush could be quite useful. Take out the Sanguine Instructions
to make room. Nose of the Hound would probably be the way to go.

regards

Pallando

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