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Technically a Mac counts as a PC but from a consumer level perspective they're different. That's why they ran the whole Mac vs PC campaign: to distinguish themselves from the PC.
 
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[citation][nom]nebun[/nom]DELL....is going down when it comes to quality....even the US NAVY has switched to HP, lol[/citation]
isn't hp worst, even as of 2011, most of the laptops that customers bring in for repair are HP's when it comes to hardware issues.

Dell has gotten a bit overpriced for the hwardware that you ger.

for example, I bought a acer laptop fir $600, it has a quad core and phenom II x4 n970
4GB memory
500GB hard drive
radeon Hd 6650m


the similarly priced dell had a core i3
320GB hard drive
4GB ram
intel onboard crap

while acer is less quality (higher failure rate, the most expensive part in their laptops that usually fail cost about $60, so if my laptop fails after a year or 2, it will probably be $60 repair for me while getting more quality laptop with similar specs would cost well over $800 before I get a good CPU and GPU
 
@appleyea Just because the macbook air was well-known at the time doesn't mean its ideal (I'm not going to go into why you'd want to use macOS) There are much cheaper laptops out there that are just as thin and portable. In 2008, you could get a voodoo envy 133 with equivalent specs that was also (negligibly) thinner for around half the price of a macbook air. Today, a falcon northwest I/O sells for a few hundred dollars less than a macbook air, and has slightly to much better specs depending on how you configure it. Those are just what I can come up with in five minutes, if I had the time and intended to spend $1000+ on a low-performance laptop I'm sure there are better examples.
 
At this point, I really don't care about .02", so I'll actually let Dell slide on this one. After all, this is more like a 15" Macbook Air than a 15" Macbook Pro. I'm pretty sure this thing is lighter than the Pro
 
I can't tell you how disappointing I was when my Dell Studio XPS 16 arrived and I realized that all of the size and weight numbers on Dell's site were *=depending on battery option. The battery which extends down from the back increases the thickness from less than an inch to almost two. I called Dell and discovered there ARE two battery options -- both are the exact same shape and size (one is slightly lighter). None of the Dell promo picks show the laptop with a battery installed, only a blank to cover the hole which it has if you take the battery out. I was demoted from "guy with the sexy beast laptop" to "laughing stock of Mac Fanboys".
 
Well, they said something similar with the dellienware m15x, "the most powerful laptop in the UNIVERSE"... sadly now I have a 2k paperweight on my desk.
 
[citation][nom]roymustang[/nom]The Dell quote says thinnest 15" PC and a Mac is technically not a PC (even though they have PC parts now). So I don't have a problem with them saying that.[/citation]

Actually it technically IS a Personal Computer. They can try and differentiate themselves all day, but the fact remains that they aren't magical boxes, they're computers.

Dell's claim is therefore incorrect. It's a shame, too. I'd really like to see someone knock Apple off their high horse.
 
It's pretty cut and dry, people. PC = personal computer. There are precisely zero Apple computers that do NOT fit this bill. They're all personal computers.

And as was stated, this is the thinnest of all personal computers at this size. Dell stated nothing wrong and even asterisked their statement so people were aware that THEY were aware of the topic.
 
[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]PC is the term IBM used for their very successful microcomputer in 1981. For that point on, the term PC meant IBM PC compatible. In fact, PC Compatible was a very common term.The term to describe smaller computers up to that time was "microcomputer", or "micro". PC meant something specific. Whether you consider the Mac a PC should be based entirely on whether it runs PC Compatible software, not if it's a microcomputer. I realize the younger generation doesn't know this stuff, and it's confusing, but that's traditionally the boundary between a PC and other microcomputers (which everything is now, since everything uses a microprocessor).[/citation]

The computers that Apple makes on which it installs Mac OSX absolutely run "PC Compatible" software. It is trivial to install Windows on a Apple computer and any other software you would want to run will work just fine.

Macs have been using Intel x86 processors for years now...
 
[citation][nom]malphas[/nom]TA152H beat me too it, some people here don't seem to understand that the term "PC"/"personal computer" entered widespread use from the IBM Personal Computer and IBM-PC compatible platform, the more generic terms of "home computer" and "microcomputer" have since dropped out usage due to the dominance of the IBM-PC platform (there used to be numerous platforms besides just IBM-PC and Apple, like Amiga, Commodore, BBC Microcomputer, etc.)IBM-PC Compatible got shortened to just "PC" in common vernacular, aided by IBM's decreasing significance in the home market, but the distinction between PC and other types of home computer like Apple has remained until today...trying to now retroactively claim PC is a generic term for any home computer, including Macs, is just ignorant and patently false.[/citation]

There remains no architectural difference between Apple laptop/desktop hardware and Dell laptop/desktop. Apple computers have been using Intel chipsets and processors since like...2006.

Apples are PC compatibles now...
 
By definition, a Mac is defined as a PC. Windows is on of SEVERAL PC operating systems including Linux, Chrome and yes , IOS. Y[citation][nom]roymustang[/nom]The Dell quote says thinnest 15" PC and a Mac is technically not a PC (even though they have PC parts now). So I don't have a problem with them saying that.[/citation]
 
I don't know about patently false. The term PC was widely proffered up by the IBM-PC but it can be reasonably argued that PC is a generic term today. IBM affectively lost control of the PC market (hence why "IBM-PC" was dropped in favor of just PC) due to other companies reverse-engineering the BIOS allowing everyone to create IBM-compatible systems capable of running IBM software. Once the hardware became commoditized, the intrinsic differentiator between PC's and all other micro and desktop computers became the software, specifically the MS-DOS (and DR-DOS, etc.) operating system. At that point, the PC moniker became better associated with the Microsoft OS rather than the underlying hardware. I should add IBM does not own a trademark for the term IBM-PC or Personal Computer. Further, the term Personal Computer was in use as early as the Xerox Parc's Alto in 1972. I would argue that PC was widely associated with IBM in the 80's, widely came to be associated with DOS and then Windows in the 90's and going forward, will widely be understood to represent an entire class of computer devices in the future. The perception for the term PC will continue to be less narrow and more inclusive in the future I believe.
 
The argument isn't about it being a "personal computer," it's more about the compatibility. Yes, you could install Windows on a Mac and have the compatibility, but, then you just bought an overpriced PC. Apple prides itself on it's OS, which is quite lean by comparison to be fair. But, you can say Apple can do anything a PC can all day, I have a few dozen CD's that beg to differ. Different software, games, etc. My friend who is just obsessed with apple asked to borrow a few of them, arguing that it'd work cuz Mac's can do anything. Easiest bet I ever won, I tell ya.

Anyways, I digress. The difference between a "PC" and a Mac are the OS. At least where most people are concerned. That's the difference. Is it big? No. Does it cost a premium? Yes. Is it worth it? I don't think so, but, I can't know much. Only been using computers for about 26 years. I'm not hating on Mac lovers, I'm just saying the looks of a computer shouldn't dictate a 50% price increase, IMO. So ends my opinion on the matter. Back to your love/hate comments.
 
[citation][nom]molo9000[/nom]Except that Mac OS has nothing to do with Linux.[/citation]

Can anyone tell me why this got voted down?

Linux and Mac OS X are both unix-like systems (Mac OS X is actually Unix certified), but they are completely separate developments.
 
[citation][nom]icemunk[/nom]In the Mac bible, line 42, chapter 4. Jobs said to Gates, "Mac is thee PC of PCs, yet a Mac is also a Mac"[/citation]
LOL
 
I just hate these bad marketing and advertising practices where the marketing department would simply use misleading and subjective statements to advertise the company’s products.
 
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