Do we need all this CPU power?

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I'm just tired of this : CPU WAR!

Everybody is right and wrong!

Who can't enjoy today's game with is 2.0Ghz P4 or is Athlon XP1800+???

I mean, many people wants the best Bench for their PCs. Many people put in their "signature" their Rig and 3DMark scores. Well, it's useless!

I just want to make my point clear! Most people will never use 100% of the CPU power they have in there hands. I wish that more people will start to think this way. Because, I read every day taht people recommend this over that because of the benchmarks and bla bla...

I wish more people will care about "WHAT WILL YOU DO" with your rig?

For 90% of the people here, a basic Athlon or P4 will do more than what they need. I think too many people that hardware company wants there money!

Well, I stop here! I already know that many people will say : DOOM 3, HL2, Video Encoding and so on...

And for those, here is my answer : DOOM 3 and HL2 are not out yet! And if these games can't run on average systems they will not sell! Valve and id Software wants to make money! These game will run on average system. And for the minority of you who do a lot of Video Editing, go and buy P4 3.2GHz. But stop telling everyone that they need this huge amount of CPU power to do day to day stuff and casual Video Editing.

Bye bye!

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?
 
First I have to ask: What CPU war? Does anyone even give a sh__ anymore?

Second I have to say that I respect your right to hold your opinion.

Third I have to say that just because you hold an opinion doesn't mean it is everyone (anyone) else's opinion.

Fourth I have to say that personally I completely disagree and that just because <i>you</i> can't find ways to use 100% of <i>your</i> CPU doesn't mean that I can't find ways to max out my CPU. Further, whether people can or cannot, do or do not, who made you god to decide what is right and wrong in the first place? No one, that's who. So if you don't like it, too bad for you. That's just the way it is. Learn to cope or live with pointless stress. It's your choice. Either way nothing is going to change.

"<i>Let's see what <b>Paragraph 84-B</b> has to say about it.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030724" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
Good!

I respect everyone opinions... I don't say I AM the truth. I'm just tired of people who recommend too much to people who don't need that "too much power".

It's just that! You know, If I had the budget I would buy the top of the line CPU. But I usually base my choice and recommendation on needs and budget. This is the best way to get the best for the cash.

I wish this thread will stay away from the classic cpu war stuff. With this thred I want to read what do people think about REAL needs...

Have a good day!

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?
 
I'm just tired of people who recommend too much to people who don't need that "too much power".

It's just that! You know, If I had the budget I would buy the top of the line CPU. But I usually base my choice and recommendation on needs and budget. This is the best way to get the best for the cash.
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It would have been much better if you had simply said this from the beginning.

However, even having clarified yourself I feel that your original sentiment is grossly out of place here at THGC. I have personally observed that almost everyone here who does try to help people will do their best to make suggestions on expressed needs and desires instead of just suggesting the absolute top-end. So the fact that you felt the need to rant in this manner belittles all of the time and energy that members of THGC put into helping others.

"<i>Let's see what <b>Paragraph 84-B</b> has to say about it.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030724" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
I think TheRod has a point. If all a person is going to do is surf the web and edit some documents, it is easy to get a CPU that would be complete overkill. And for games, if you can already reach insane frames per second with your current setup, then you really don't need a faster CPU (yet). There are CPU intensive apps out there, but in many cases, especially for your average home user (probably none of those on these forums), there is no need for a CPU that would provide no tangible performance increase in standard GUI-based apps like Word or Internet Explorer.

But this is a forum for PC enthusiasts, so I wouldn't expect much sympathy towards this attitude around here. :wink:

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I've been striked out! You got me!!!

I agree with you that THGC is a great place to share informations/opinions/recommendations on PC hardware!

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?
 
But this is a forum for PC enthusiasts, so I wouldn't expect much sympathy towards this attitude around here. :wink:
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Actually, you've inadvertantly hit the nail right on the head. This is a forum for PC enthusiasts. <i>Most</i> people coming here for advice <i>aren't</i> average PC users. We don't just run Word. We don't just surf the net. We write/run scientific applications, rendering software, encoding/decoding software, and play the absolute latest games at <i>high-quality graphics and sound</i> settings. All of these things are <i>not</i> tasks done by <i>average</i> users.

THGC solidly represents that minimal category of PC extremists and enthusiasts, as do the vast majority of the people who come here for advice.

And that said, even then we will usually do our best to make suggestions on what people express a desire for and hardware that will meet their needs. We don't just suggest the most expensive products out there.

So this is exacly why that attitude not only does not apply here, but verges on insulting to many people here. That is the kind of attitude that belongs at Dell, Gateway, etc. That is the kind of attitude that you keep in mind when you suggest to your grandma what computer she buys when she tells you that she wants to get one to keep in touch with the family using email. And here when we make suggestions we keep prices and budgets in mind. We keep people's needs and desires in mind. It's just that most people who are here have considerably larger needs and desires than the <i>average</i> PC user.

"<i>Let's see what <b>Paragraph 84-B</b> has to say about it.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030724" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
I agree with you that THGC is a great place to share informations/opinions/recommendations on PC hardware!
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**ROFL** Then why did you rant at us? :)

Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?
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Only if it was shiny. 😉

"<i>Let's see what <b>Paragraph 84-B</b> has to say about it.</i>" - Thief from <A HREF="http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=030724" target="_new">8-Bit Theater</A>
 
I would buy a GPS-enabled soap bar in a hearbeat! Where can I find one? Is it on a rope?

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I would buy a GPS-enabled soap bar in a hearbeat! Where can I find one? Is it on a rope?
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**ROFL** You mean you don't care if it is or isn't shiny? I'm appalled! Shocked! Outraged! :O How can you not care if it's shiny?! And you call yourself a techie. Bah!

Everyone knows that only shiny objects are worth hoarding ... I mean collecting ... err ... I mean purchasing. Yeah. That's what I meant...

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I want faster disk transfer rates, faster CDRoms,
faster memory, faster FSB and larger processor L1,L2 and L3 caches.

But most of all I want great graphics!

The loving are the daring!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Flinx on 07/28/03 07:10 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Having a faster system saves me money in two ways:
1.) It takes HOURS for me to reencode movies, which I do every day. I leave my computer on at night while the PC does the work. I set the program to turn off PC when finished. Having a system twice as fast would reduce my electric bill by at least $15 a month (summer power rates).

2.) It would allow me more time to do other things. Time is money, so to speak, I could possibly be making money doing other things.

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in response to -


"It would have been much better if you had simply said this from the beginning.

However, even having clarified yourself I feel that your original sentiment is grossly out of place here at THGC. I have personally observed that almost everyone here who does try to help people will do their best to make suggestions on expressed needs and desires instead of just suggesting the absolute top-end. So the fact that you felt the need to rant in this manner belittles all of the time and energy that members of THGC put into helping others."

I didn't find it belittling at all. Sometimes people have to rant - just let em have their rant so they feel better. And I think that some people do get way more than they need but it is true that most people on here may enjoy/need the higher end stuff. But either way TheRod hardly deserves such harsh criticism - I commend him for speaking out about what he believes. A little more tolerance would be nice (in more places than just these boards).

"Don't question it!!!" - Err
 
In encoding/rendering apps, nothing is fast. Everybody always feel the need for extra speed in these apps.

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CrashMan : You are the perfect PC user!

I mean, you are the one of those who drives and push his hardware to the MAX! And that's great! Hardware makers wish transform all the PC enthousiat into one of your kind!

I would love to have the money and the need to buy more top of the notch hardware. But you know, I'm the kind of guy who never buy the rated stuff and I always think hard before buying something, even a simple CD-ROM drive.

You know why? Because I made 2 mistake in my PC buying experience. First, I bought a ZIP drive a couple of years ago. I almost never used it and now it sits in a box!!!

My second bad move was to buy a DVD-ROM, I tought it might be great to have one to RIP DVD movies or to watch them on PC. But, you know what? Since I have it, I have tried to RIP 1 or 2 movie and I checked the DVD-ROM part of 1 movie! Wow! I find that it's a lot easier to go on Kazaa and D/L the RIP instead of trying to make a good one!

Continue your great job at THGC Crashman! I often learn a lot when I read discusions where you are involved!

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Would you buy a GPS enabled soap bar?
 
The bar of soap knows exactly where it is. It's just too bad you can't read it. I hear tea leaves are a major technological breakthrough too. Apparently you can read the future in them.

Seriously though, wouldn't the persuit of faster/better other components, rather than CPU's, be more advantageous for most people at the present time? I'm thinking that most people want small, quiet, good to great gaming and internet access systems (with good office application).
The noise of the fan's is starting to interfere with my appreciation of the music.

The loving are the daring!
 
naw flinx ya got it all wrong...a tracking becon is inserted into the bar of soap and a gps monitor is put in the shower....everytime you drop the soap ya know exactly where it is because it is tracked on the gps monitor

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lol

3 386DX-25's...12 volts...glue and some ln2 and a wicked amount of overclocking and you get a willamantee minus 36 pins, 33.75 million transistors and a couple hundred mhz... 😎
 
one word - multitasking

have you ever tried to do even simple tasks while encoding or just ziping a large file? then you need power. also doom3 and HL2 are already available for preorder for end of sept/beginning aug, but i agree that most people dont need such power. i think the problem with computers is they use to much electricity, which makes them hot, noisy and certainly less reliable, thats why i would always recommend lower power cpus like 2000 tbreds, and why i think 103 watt prescott is digusting not to mention impractical for almost everyone.
 
Donate your spare CPU power to a better cause, like finding a cure for cancer, NASA's SETI or even finding prime numbers.

I had a much better usertitle but was caught trying to hack me a better one so I got my current title as a punishment
 
Not keen on the way Windows performance is with Mulithreading. Unix is just fine with multitasking. You can even change the process priorities if you like.

The loving are the daring!
 
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