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I have an interesting issue. My SATA drive on an ASUS P4PE motherboard has
started dropping frames on capture. The P4PE has a RAID controller onboard.
I had thought that it was a drive problem, so I installed a new SATA drive.
Same problem. The SATA drive, and the drive it replaced, handles all
standard computer operations just fine. Note that the original SATA drive
once captured with zero dropped frames. Note also that I can capture just
fine to a EIDE parallel ATA drive with no dropped frames. Before I
frustrate myself searching for the slow throughput problem, has anyone else
encountered this sort of issue? Are there configuration settings on the
SATA RAID controller that I need to optimize? Of course, there is the issue
of what changed and why to go from satisfactory performance to unusable for
video. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Steve King
 
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Steve King wrote:
> I have an interesting issue. My SATA drive on an ASUS P4PE motherboard has
> started dropping frames on capture. The P4PE has a RAID controller onboard.
> I had thought that it was a drive problem, so I installed a new SATA drive.
> Same problem. The SATA drive, and the drive it replaced, handles all
> standard computer operations just fine. Note that the original SATA drive
> once captured with zero dropped frames. Note also that I can capture just
> fine to a EIDE parallel ATA drive with no dropped frames. Before I
> frustrate myself searching for the slow throughput problem, has anyone else
> encountered this sort of issue? Are there configuration settings on the
> SATA RAID controller that I need to optimize? Of course, there is the issue
> of what changed and why to go from satisfactory performance to unusable for
> video. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>
> Steve King

I would focus on changes. Did you update a driver or another piece of
hardware? Did you install anti-virus software? If so, did you try
capturing with it turned off? Did you install a service pack? XP SP2
wrecks havoc with a number of applications.

Cheers,
 
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"Ritz" <ritz@mordor.net> wrote in message news:KR_ud.185$S35.180@fe08.lga...
> Steve King wrote:
>> I have an interesting issue. My SATA drive on an ASUS P4PE motherboard
>> has started dropping frames on capture. The P4PE has a RAID controller
>> onboard. I had thought that it was a drive problem, so I installed a new
>> SATA drive. Same problem. The SATA drive, and the drive it replaced,
>> handles all standard computer operations just fine. Note that the
>> original SATA drive once captured with zero dropped frames. Note also
>> that I can capture just fine to a EIDE parallel ATA drive with no dropped
>> frames. Before I frustrate myself searching for the slow throughput
>> problem, has anyone else encountered this sort of issue? Are there
>> configuration settings on the SATA RAID controller that I need to
>> optimize? Of course, there is the issue of what changed and why to go
>> from satisfactory performance to unusable for video. Any help or advice
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>> Steve King
>
> I would focus on changes. Did you update a driver or another piece of
> hardware? Did you install anti-virus software? If so, did you try
> capturing with it turned off? Did you install a service pack? XP SP2
> wrecks havoc with a number of applications.
>
> Cheers,

It is not the virus software. No change with it off. I did upgrade to XP
SP2. I do not know if that upgrade coincided with the SATA drive capture
problem. I did not capture any video on this computer for a period of time,
so don't know when it happened. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep
twiddling and digging.

Steve King
 
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"Steve King" <steve@REMOVETHISSPAMBLOCKsteveking.net> wrote in message
news:ev6dnRVCNMNLAyHcRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
> "Ritz" <ritz@mordor.net> wrote in message
> news:KR_ud.185$S35.180@fe08.lga...
>> Steve King wrote:
>>> I have an interesting issue. My SATA drive on an ASUS P4PE motherboard
>>> has started dropping frames on capture. The P4PE has a RAID controller
>>> onboard. I had thought that it was a drive problem, so I installed a new
>>> SATA drive. Same problem. The SATA drive, and the drive it replaced,
>>> handles all standard computer operations just fine. Note that the
>>> original SATA drive once captured with zero dropped frames. Note also
>>> that I can capture just fine to a EIDE parallel ATA drive with no
>>> dropped frames. Before I frustrate myself searching for the slow
>>> throughput problem, has anyone else encountered this sort of issue? Are
>>> there configuration settings on the SATA RAID controller that I need to
>>> optimize? Of course, there is the issue of what changed and why to go
>>> from satisfactory performance to unusable for video. Any help or advice
>>> would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Steve King
>>
>> I would focus on changes. Did you update a driver or another piece of
>> hardware? Did you install anti-virus software? If so, did you try
>> capturing with it turned off? Did you install a service pack? XP SP2
>> wrecks havoc with a number of applications.
>>
>> Cheers,
>
> It is not the virus software. No change with it off. I did upgrade to XP
> SP2.

SP2 is a very wild card. It would be my first choice to blame.
 
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Richard Crowley wrote:
> "Steve King" <steve@REMOVETHISSPAMBLOCKsteveking.net> wrote in message
> news:ev6dnRVCNMNLAyHcRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
>
>>"Ritz" <ritz@mordor.net> wrote in message
>>news:KR_ud.185$S35.180@fe08.lga...
>>
>>>Steve King wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have an interesting issue. My SATA drive on an ASUS P4PE motherboard
>>>>has started dropping frames on capture. The P4PE has a RAID controller
>>>>onboard. I had thought that it was a drive problem, so I installed a new
>>>>SATA drive. Same problem. The SATA drive, and the drive it replaced,
>>>>handles all standard computer operations just fine. Note that the
>>>>original SATA drive once captured with zero dropped frames. Note also
>>>>that I can capture just fine to a EIDE parallel ATA drive with no
>>>>dropped frames. Before I frustrate myself searching for the slow
>>>>throughput problem, has anyone else encountered this sort of issue? Are
>>>>there configuration settings on the SATA RAID controller that I need to
>>>>optimize? Of course, there is the issue of what changed and why to go
>>>>from satisfactory performance to unusable for video. Any help or advice
>>>>would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Steve King
>>>
>>>I would focus on changes. Did you update a driver or another piece of
>>>hardware? Did you install anti-virus software? If so, did you try
>>>capturing with it turned off? Did you install a service pack? XP SP2
>>>wrecks havoc with a number of applications.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>
>>It is not the virus software. No change with it off. I did upgrade to XP
>>SP2.
>
>
> SP2 is a very wild card. It would be my first choice to blame.

Yup. I would contact the vendor for whatever software he's using to
capture the footage and ask if they've gotten reports of incompatibility
with SP2. If not, I'd find out if the motherboard vendor has issued any
updated drivers for the RAID chip or chipset drivers since SP2. I'd
also individually check the hard drive devices and make sure SP2 didn't
turn off DMA transfers or somesuch.

Cheers,
 
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You mention several times that there is a raid controller but are you using
the raid fnctionality?
 
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Do a test. Roll back to the date just before you installed SP2, capture some
video and that will tell you for sure. If not the problem then roll up to
where you are now.

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"Steve King" <steve@REMOVETHISSPAMBLOCKsteveking.net> wrote in message
news:_eudnQTMMtTA5CHcRVn-3A@comcast.com...
> I have an interesting issue. My SATA drive on an ASUS P4PE motherboard
has
> started dropping frames on capture. The P4PE has a RAID controller
onboard.
> I had thought that it was a drive problem, so I installed a new SATA
drive.
> Same problem. The SATA drive, and the drive it replaced, handles all
> standard computer operations just fine. Note that the original SATA drive
> once captured with zero dropped frames. Note also that I can capture just
> fine to a EIDE parallel ATA drive with no dropped frames. Before I
> frustrate myself searching for the slow throughput problem, has anyone
else
> encountered this sort of issue? Are there configuration settings on the
> SATA RAID controller that I need to optimize? Of course, there is the
issue
> of what changed and why to go from satisfactory performance to unusable
for
> video. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
>
> Steve King
>
>
 
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"Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
news:7ncvd.104981$Oc.19121@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Do a test. Roll back to the date just before you installed SP2, capture
> some
> video and that will tell you for sure. If not the problem then roll up to
> where you are now.
>
> --
> Larry Johnson
> Digital Video Solutions

I don't think I can do that. My earliest restore point is the install date
of SR-2. but, I was pretty excited for a moment after reading your
suggestion.

I did do some more tests. The dropped frame issue is definitely related to
preview. I get no dropped frames if I capture in Vegas 4.0 & 5.0 with
preview off. I get no dropped frames if I redirect the preview to an
external monitor through the IEEE1394 port. What I do not understand, yet,
is why I can capture with no dropped frames to DV/AVI using Microsoft
Producer, while using the on-screen preview monitor. Just an issue with
Vegas so far. I should get Scenelyzer, which everyone seems to like, and
try that. If that provides a solution, I may not waste time solving the
Vegas only capture issue.

Steve King




Steve King
 
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Steve King wrote:
> "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
> message news:7ncvd.104981$Oc.19121@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Do a test. Roll back to the date just before you installed SP2,
>> capture some
>> video and that will tell you for sure. If not the problem then roll
>> up to where you are now.
>>
>> --
>> Larry Johnson
>> Digital Video Solutions
>
> I don't think I can do that. My earliest restore point is the
> install date of SR-2. but, I was pretty excited for a moment after
> reading your suggestion.
>
> I did do some more tests. The dropped frame issue is definitely
> related to preview. I get no dropped frames if I capture in Vegas
> 4.0 & 5.0 with preview off. I get no dropped frames if I redirect
> the preview to an external monitor through the IEEE1394 port. What I
> do not understand, yet, is why I can capture with no dropped frames
> to DV/AVI using Microsoft Producer, while using the on-screen preview
> monitor. Just an issue with Vegas so far. I should get Scenelyzer,
> which everyone seems to like, and try that. If that provides a
> solution, I may not waste time solving the Vegas only capture issue.
>
> Steve King


Take a look at the "Why do I drop frames when I capture?" section of the
Vegas FAQ at http://www.vasst.com/training/vegasfaq.htm#drpfrm
BTW, the VASST site is another great Vegas resource.

Mike
 
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"Mike Kujbida" <kujfam-misleadingspam@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:326iviF3i7jk4U1@individual.net...
> Steve King wrote:
>> "Digital Video Solutions" <video@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in
>> message news:7ncvd.104981$Oc.19121@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Do a test. Roll back to the date just before you installed SP2,
>>> capture some
>>> video and that will tell you for sure. If not the problem then roll
>>> up to where you are now.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Johnson
>>> Digital Video Solutions
>>
>> I don't think I can do that. My earliest restore point is the
>> install date of SR-2. but, I was pretty excited for a moment after
>> reading your suggestion.
>>
>> I did do some more tests. The dropped frame issue is definitely
>> related to preview. I get no dropped frames if I capture in Vegas
>> 4.0 & 5.0 with preview off. I get no dropped frames if I redirect
>> the preview to an external monitor through the IEEE1394 port. What I
>> do not understand, yet, is why I can capture with no dropped frames
>> to DV/AVI using Microsoft Producer, while using the on-screen preview
>> monitor. Just an issue with Vegas so far. I should get Scenelyzer,
>> which everyone seems to like, and try that. If that provides a
>> solution, I may not waste time solving the Vegas only capture issue.
>>
>> Steve King
>
>
> Take a look at the "Why do I drop frames when I capture?" section of the
> Vegas FAQ at http://www.vasst.com/training/vegasfaq.htm#drpfrm
> BTW, the VASST site is another great Vegas resource.
>
> Mike
>
I only had time to do a cursory check of that document, but I haven't found
any obvious discrepancies between what is recommended and the way my
computer is set up. I'm most likely missing something obvious. Thanks for
the help. I'll have to get back to this in a couple of weeks. I'm either
in pre-pro or shooting this week and part of next.

Steve King
 
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