TheGreatGrapeApe
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'Anonymous' arguments to me sound like the same ting that was said about XP and DX9 with the loss of Win98SE and DX7 & DX8, did that stop the purchase of Radeon 9700/9500/9600 cards? 
And to me anyone who doesn't understand how OS adoption #s mean LESS THAN ZERO regarding this topic needs to simply leave the discussion because they're wasting our time focusing on an over-inflated # that includes millions of business desktops and laptops whose only exposure to games is minesweeper, solitaire and hearts.
If anything the link provided as some indication of the lack of a focus on Vista should carry more weight in that it'sabout 5 times the adoption rate as Mac OSX and the game companies make big title games for that 'minority', and it's a FAR harder thing to do than the minor tweaks to add either XP, or DX11 support. Just plain stupid to even start down that road even if we were to go on adoption rates alone, and not think that the VISTA #s are likely a higher percentage of gamers with modern cards that run BOTH OSes because they don't care about other people's opinions or worries, they just want to play their games at the best possible settings.
And of those not ready to upgrade to VISTA, who cares, they're not gaming rigs, it would be like having a discussion about the lack of any need to updated CS4 because 90 of computers couldn't effectively use all its features either. We're not focusing on the lowest common denominator, and the fact remains, coding for Vista + Win7 + Dx9/10/10.1/11 is still less wasted effort than coding a new cutting edge game for only XP and DX9.
You can argue all you want about adoption rates, but that would be like telling me game developers shouldn't bother using large textures and anything graphical intensive because the majority of PCs out there use intel GMA chipsets so therefore you're cutting off the majority of the public. Just as specious and pointless a statement. [:thegreatgrapeape:5]
Anywhoo, perhaps the name comes up differently to you guys, but 'anonymous' seems to be using alot of the same old tired arguments as GK316..... hmmmmm...... 😗
And to me anyone who doesn't understand how OS adoption #s mean LESS THAN ZERO regarding this topic needs to simply leave the discussion because they're wasting our time focusing on an over-inflated # that includes millions of business desktops and laptops whose only exposure to games is minesweeper, solitaire and hearts.
If anything the link provided as some indication of the lack of a focus on Vista should carry more weight in that it'sabout 5 times the adoption rate as Mac OSX and the game companies make big title games for that 'minority', and it's a FAR harder thing to do than the minor tweaks to add either XP, or DX11 support. Just plain stupid to even start down that road even if we were to go on adoption rates alone, and not think that the VISTA #s are likely a higher percentage of gamers with modern cards that run BOTH OSes because they don't care about other people's opinions or worries, they just want to play their games at the best possible settings.
And of those not ready to upgrade to VISTA, who cares, they're not gaming rigs, it would be like having a discussion about the lack of any need to updated CS4 because 90 of computers couldn't effectively use all its features either. We're not focusing on the lowest common denominator, and the fact remains, coding for Vista + Win7 + Dx9/10/10.1/11 is still less wasted effort than coding a new cutting edge game for only XP and DX9.
You can argue all you want about adoption rates, but that would be like telling me game developers shouldn't bother using large textures and anything graphical intensive because the majority of PCs out there use intel GMA chipsets so therefore you're cutting off the majority of the public. Just as specious and pointless a statement. [:thegreatgrapeape:5]
Anywhoo, perhaps the name comes up differently to you guys, but 'anonymous' seems to be using alot of the same old tired arguments as GK316..... hmmmmm...... 😗
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