DX11 to show up soon?

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://twitter.com/catalystmaker

 

[mactronix]

Im sorry i draw the line at being linked to twitter

Mactronix

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

OK, ATI is supposed to show some DX11 working cards tomorrow

 

[mactronix]

Thats good to know i trust we can rely on your good self to link us in to the reported findings ready for when i get home from work ?


Mactronix

 

[Mousemonkey]

Im sorry i draw the line at being linked to twitter

Mactronix

Agreed, I really can't take twatters seriously.

 

[mactronix]

Found this smiley, this seems like an opportune moment


[:mousemonkey:5]


Ta

Mactronix

 

[maximiza]

this stinks I was just about to buy a Dx10 card.

 

[Kari]

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9394.html

AMD shows DirectX 11 GPUs at Computex
Written by Andreas G 02 June 2009 18:19



AMD has a couple of DirectX 11 GPUs in the pipeline for this year. Among them we have the high-end RV870 and the mid-range RV840 (not sure about that name though), but of course there are more chips of the coming R8xx family. Anyhow, Computex is the place to go if you want to learn more about the coming hardware and according to a reliable source AMD has had a back room presentation where AMD had several DirectX 11 GPUs working and nearly ready.

Both us and the people there where quite shocked to learn how well the chips were working. It seems that most leaks have been fixed and that the chips are not far off. We have no launch date to share, but the source was confident we're talking a few months at most. TSMC and its problems of course play a role here, but things are apparently looking up for them too.

We will just have to wait and see, and most importantly keep our eyes open for the status updates of NVIDIA's coming G300 chip.

 

[4745454b]

First, I believe DX11 is supposed to be here soon. (is this supposed to work on Vista as well, or is this Win7 only?)

I'm not surprised AMD has working DX11 silicon already. DX11 isn't much more then DX10.1 with a few more things. AMD has had DX10.1 cards for quite awhile, so tacking on the DX11 parts probably aren't that hard. They have also already made GDDR5 and 40nm cards as well, so again this isn't all that new for them. I wonder what Nvidia has, and did they really find a way to more then double the shader count?

 

[mactronix]

Yes it will work on Vista

Mactronix

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Rumors are running that ATI may come out with a full cross section, from top to bottom for DX11.
Rumors on nVidia side are somewhat more obscure, tho, theres reportedly several DX11 cards in the pipeline, and its said theyre several to 3-4 months behind ATI.
As to any specs on any cards, its all speculation, nothings really confirmed yet, or close. It may have alot to do with ATIs surprise with their R700 family release, and the 480/800 shader thing, besides them just normally holding their cards tight to the vest. Also, LRB will be here eventually, and thats just another competitor to keep things from

 

[croc]

Yes it will work on Vista

Mactronix

Link? After all, DX11 is a new API in Win7. We never saw DX10 in XP, so why would MS make such a massive SP for Vista?

 

[jennyh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_x_11#Direct3D_11

"Direct3D 11 will run on Windows Vista, Windows 7, and all future Windows operating systems."

 

[hunter315]

Unlike DX11 isnt supposed to be as much of a paradigm shift as DX10 was from DX9 so it likely wont be a massive SP.

According to this
http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archive/2008/07/28/gamefest-2008-and-the-directx-11-announcement.aspx
most of DX11 will run on DX10 hardware fine except for a few parts of it.

 

[jennyh]

Also, Fud is almost crying so it must be true.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14018/34/

AMD must be an absolute mile ahead of Nvidia on dx11. We could be talking about a 6 month lead or even more. What will be interesting to see is the price these come in at - will they be priced the same as the top end nvidias yet with double the performance?

Exciting times for AMD fanboys and girls everywhere.

 

[jennyh]

Unlike DX11 isnt supposed to be as much of a paradigm shift as DX10 was from DX9 so it likely wont be a massive SP.

According to this
http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archive/2008/07/28/gamefest-2008-and-the-directx-11-announcement.aspx
most of DX11 will run on DX10 hardware fine except for a few parts of it.

The hardware tesselation and SM5 are probably two of the most important parts however, and those will need a dx11 card.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Im sorry i draw the line at being linked to twitter

Mactronix

Just FYI, that's probably your BEST ongoing source for information on ATi, at least that which would put it in a good light.

Of course you could trust people in random forums, however you might want to look at your Driver Release notes you might see a familiar name there and now a familiar link.

Terry's been out front in the forums and public spaces since before the R9xxx series, he was primarily found at Rage3D and DriverHeaven with the occasional B3D appearance, and recently AMD's own Game forum, but this was a quite logical and expected step for anyone whose dealt with him in the past. He's quite open and public, and he's been a goof read and source for hints just like Wavey Dave.

I'm just saddened he listens to JACK, at least he has the good sense to balance that with the Mighty Q !

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Link? After all, DX11 is a new API in Win7. We never saw DX10 in XP, so why would MS make such a massive SP for Vista?

Is this info from Micro$oft good enough?

http://www.xnagamefest.com/presentations.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E410716F-12BF-4E8F-AC41-97B4440C3B90&displaylang=en

It's a different launch from DX10

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=724

 

[croc]

Is this info from Micro$oft good enough?

http://www.xnagamefest.com/presentations.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E410716F-12BF-4E8F-AC41-97B4440C3B90&displaylang=en

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5937/dx11stfucj1.jpg

It's a different launch from DX10

Very different... Hard to believe as well, but now I have several different links saying the same thing, I guess I'm going to have to believe...

OT, I thought you were headed down to Kiwiland?

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Nice catch, I was surprised that Charlie didn't have an update already since Terry Linked directly to his aptly-named "SemiAccurate" site.

Time to bring back an old Smiley in honour of the find ...

 

[jennyh]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=724

Hmm let's see. 959m transitors on the 4870 compared to possibly 1.2bn on this. The 3870 had 666m so yep that wafer is probably the top end 58xx gpu's assuming the writers math isn't way off.

 

[4745454b]

The hardware tesselation and SM5 are probably two of the most important parts however, and those will need a dx11 card.

As any AMD fanboy should know, AMD has had a Tesselation engine in their cards since the 2xxxx days. They first built one in the Xenos, and carried it over to every card since they. They only need to support SM5. Its AMD and Intel that need to add a bunch of stuff seeing as they never supported DX10.1.

EDIT: As pointed out, the last sentence should read, "Its Nvidia and Intel that need to add a bunch of stuff seeing as they never supported DX10.1."

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3573
heheh

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Very different... Hard to believe as well, but now I have several different links saying the same thing, I guess I'm going to have to believe...

Well it is M$' own links, they wouldn't publish that if there was a chance it wasn't going to happen, I think they learned their legal lesson after the whole 'Vista Ready, Capable, can display a Vista logo in 2D' fiasco.

OT, I thought you were headed down to Kiwiland?

That's the plan for skiing next summer post Olympics: Argentina, Chile, Oz and NZ.