EA Says Battlefield 4 Launch Was Unacceptable

[ubercake]

So many people here are completely ignorant on game development. You guys can kick, scream and cry foul all you want, but the fact of the matter is that titles like BF4 are massive undertakings that require absolutely huge teams of professionals that have to work together to the best of their ability to deliver the project. The issue isn't EA, it's the AAA game in general.

It costs millions of dollars to develop and there's no guarantee that the game will even recoup it's development cost even with a very tight and rigid development cycle. Say nothing if they just gave the team a whole extra year just to polish the game.

People seem to want perfection but it's simply unreasonable when you consider how many moving parts and how many lines of code go into these titles. BF4 wasn't perfect at launch, but I dare you to list a single AAA title from any company that was.

This is also why the indie scene has been exploding. Far less financial risk and much smaller teams can experiment with very new and revolutionary concepts with far less moving parts.

I can see what you're saying. These things are a big undertaking.

But from a multi-player perspective on the server side of BF4, on release day, the servers were not even stable enough to operate for more than a few hours without a restart due to memory leak. The servers required around 7 updates in as many days alone just to keep them functional for more than 5 hours at a time. From a client multi-player standpoint, there weren't just little issues here and there to be cleaned up.

Most of us are pretty tolerant of little issues here and there, but that is the kind of sloppiness a professional company doesn't impose on its customers.

So when you don't release a polished product, the costs are on the tail end:
- Higher support costs
- Sales decline
- Company reputation declines

 

[junkeymonkey]

ya, but as they know you keep right on supporting them. ya'll sit here crying about this but as soon as the new hot game comes out your right back over there handing them more of you cash over and over and over.. how sad

 

[ubercake]

Another sad fact is there's nothing better out there.

 

[junkeymonkey]

well lets look at whos fault that is-- yours, that's all there is to it I have only bought 1 steam type game and that's all it took me to see that my pc gaming days was over for anything new that required this 3ed party thing all a guy had to do was read comprehend and understand the agreement's to see that this crap anit going to fly here .. they can keep it on there shelf and i'll keep my cash .. and if origin and steam were to got out of business today I'm not affected in any way I'm out nothing and can keep loading and playing the games I got till the day I die now can you say that??

 

[spartanmk2]

All talk, they just sweep everything under the rug at corporate.

 

[wakuritz]

I have had very few issues. I assume most people complain because it's popular, not because they've experienced any significant issues. That isn't to say that there weren't any, but it was blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion.

 

[Bean007]

I think there actually both to blame for it. Some say that it's EA fault for releasing it too early and that it wasn't finished which could be true. EA has done this before. However the fact that the game is still plagued with problem leads towards the fact that DICE isn't doing there part as well as it should.

Also lets not forget that there were bugs in BF 3 that took them forever to fix (Metro Ceiling) that was put back into BF 4 after it was fixed in BF 3. The fact that they've never supported the server admins by allowing a admin to have a ghost slot to be able to catch cheaters a lot easier like CounterStrike always had. This is something that they've been wanting for a long time. Also the fact that there still using PunkBuster which I've never been impressed with it's rate at catching cheaters. And the fact that Battlefield has never really had a good Team VOIP system. The new Battlefield Hardlines has one but I think it's limited to Squad only which means for the rest of your team you still have to type it out which I think it's lame.

I use to be a Battlefield fan but after the so so DLC's of BF 3 and then the account hacking that went on during a weekend and EA not fessing up to it saying it must have been my computers fault even though a lot of other people had the same issue made me stray away from anything related to EA and DICE. Also the fact that during BF 3 having people still doing the same cheats like the ceiling one in metro and seeing that over and over just pissed me off.

EA can point the finger at whom ever they want but there still the Head Bosses.

 

[junkeymonkey]

but its all ways everyone else's fault other than your own... just a fact in life

 

[falchard]

So... just another day for EA.

 

[junkeymonkey]

I think there actually both to blame for it. Some say that it's EA fault for releasing it too early and that it wasn't finished which could be true. EA has done this before. However the fact that the game is still plagued with problem leads towards the fact that DICE isn't doing there part as well as it should.


see its YOUR fault for supporting it but they know your that desperate to play a game and will just keep paying over and over and in the end you got nothing

 

[Bean007]

I think there actually both to blame for it. Some say that it's EA fault for releasing it too early and that it wasn't finished which could be true. EA has done this before. However the fact that the game is still plagued with problem leads towards the fact that DICE isn't doing there part as well as it should.


see its YOUR fault for supporting it but they know your that desperate to play a game and will just keep paying over and over and in the end you got nothing

Are you quoting me? And who said I supported them. I never bought BF 4 and I won't be getting BF Hardline either.

 

[junkeymonkey]

they know your that desperate to play a game and will just keep paying over and over and in the end you got nothing

this is what you support[any game] see as I keep saying they no matter who don't have to do nothing but put something out hype it up so you will blindly pay for something that you don't get unless they give it to you at there terms aand if they don't want to fix it too bad you have nothing to start with without them they got you right where they want you you get mad at them . why?? your the one that gave them money and clicked I agree your arm was not twisted ..

and if its that bad why not take the game back and get a refund?? I mean first crack out of the box is that if the game requires a 3ed party in order to install and play it and is not fully on the disk is a no sale item .. [no support from me]

as long as I can remember ther were always good hard running games and there been some buggy bad games nothing has changed in14 years on that
but with these new games the you have ask a 3ed party if its all right for me to play it and accept any down load content or client weather I approve of it or not just don't get my money and that's your support of any game -

 

[Urzu1000]

they know your that desperate to play a game and will just keep paying over and over and in the end you got nothing

this is what you support[any game] see as I keep saying they no matter who don't have to do nothing but put something out hype it up so you will blindly pay for something that you don't get unless they give it to you at there terms aand if they don't want to fix it too bad you have nothing to start with without them they got you right where they want you you get mad at them . why?? your the one that gave them money and clicked I agree your arm was not twisted ..

and if its that bad why not take the game back and get a refund?? I mean first crack out of the box is that if the game requires a 3ed party in order to install and play it and is not fully on the disk is a no sale item .. [no support from me]

as long as I can remember ther were always good hard running games and there been some buggy bad games nothing has changed in14 years on that
but with these new games the you have ask a 3ed party if its all right for me to play it and accept any down load content or client weather I approve of it or not just don't get my money and that's your support of any game -

I'm going to be completely honest with you. I stopped reading halfway through the first paragraph due to grammar.

But I THINK I agree with you that people buy games just off hype, if that's what you were saying. And it's definitely stupid to do so.

 

[junkeymonkey]

Urzu1000
well teacher whats wrong with it

 

[Urzu1000]

Urzu1000
well teacher whats wrong with it

I couldn't understand it, and I still can't. It seems you have a strong opinion about this, and honestly, I would like to read it. :/

 

[junkeymonkey]

looks plain and simple to me from my first post on this to this last one
but this is not on topic.. and its a rainy day here

 

[Urzu1000]

Speaking of getting back on topic, does anyone know if there's any plans for Battlefield 4 to go on a Humble Bundle in the near future?

 

[Bean007]

Speaking of getting back on topic, does anyone know if there's any plans for Battlefield 4 to go on a Humble Bundle in the near future?

I doubt it. Don't think I've ever seen any of the Battlefields on Humble Bumble.

 

[jalek]

Does any game launch complete and fully functional anymore? It seems with the ease of patches and updates nobody bothers, particularly with games that are intended to be connected to the internet.

 

[Bean007]

Does any game launch complete and fully functional anymore? It seems with the ease of patches and updates nobody bothers, particularly with games that are intended to be connected to the internet.

It's not just a matter of launching complete it's after it's been launched and had some time is the issue. The fact that issues are still around even months after the game was released. It was so bad that had to stop everything at DICE to try and fix the issues. Which to mean sounds like they weren't really concerned about it that much or they figured that in due time they'll get around to it. Perhaps EA little a fire under there arse, they do work for EA.

 

[Urzu1000]

Speaking of getting back on topic, does anyone know if there's any plans for Battlefield 4 to go on a Humble Bundle in the near future?

I doubt it. Don't think I've ever seen any of the Battlefields on Humble Bumble.

Battlefield 3 was on a Humble Bundle a while back, and on the next one, they offered Battlefield 3 premium.
I already owned the game, but I'm certainly hopeful that Battlefield 4 will follow suit.

 

[Bean007]

Speaking of getting back on topic, does anyone know if there's any plans for Battlefield 4 to go on a Humble Bundle in the near future?

I doubt it. Don't think I've ever seen any of the Battlefields on Humble Bumble.

Battlefield 3 was on a Humble Bundle a while back, and on the next one, they offered Battlefield 3 premium.
I already owned the game, but I'm certainly hopeful that Battlefield 4 will follow suit.

Never saw it but I don't always check out Humble Bundle all the time. Even if you could get BF 4 insanely cheap I'm not sure I would buy it due to just all the problems of it. I do own BF 3 and the Prem. package but I doubt I'll ever go back to it.

 

[Urzu1000]

From what I can tell, and I say this begrudgingly due to my hatred of EA, Battlefield 4 offers some vast improvement over Battlefield 3. I'm not very concerned with "all the problems of it", as they shouldn't be too tough to work around. The real reason I want the game though is that the Battlefield 3 servers are quickly dying. There's only two currently up with Armored Kills (my favorite maps) maps, and one of those is permanently Bandar Desert. It's very dreary, and quite frankly, I can't tell if snow is re-textured sand, or sand is re-textured snow now.

 

[nikoli707]

Maybe these things are unique to my hardware, but like i said before, but i didn't notice any huge issues with Battlefield 4… at least compared to Skyrim. How come Bethesda doesn't get the same hatred? Skryim was far far worse.