Epoxy to AS3 Ratio for Ramsinks

[Titanion]

I have read about two different ratios for diluting epoxy with AS3 to make the bonds less permanent (BTW, anyone try the plastic bag in a freezer trick to remove permanent bonds). The first ratio I have read about is 1:1, half epoxy and half AS3.

But the Artic Silver Adhesive I ordered comes in two parts, and you are supposed to mix those parts in a 1:1 ratio before using it. I have read that the ratio for diluting this is 1:1:1, with an equal portion of all three, the two adhesive parts and AS3. However, is it 1:1:1 or 1:1:2?

Do you create a mixed up AS Adhesive, call that one part, and then add an equal amount of AS3. This ratio is really 1:1:2. All of my sources for this diluting are forums with peple I do not trust, but some of you guys here I have come to trust.

BTW, I am currently at 306/360 with my modded non-pro 9500, and I just got 5142 on 3DMark03. I added a crystal orb last week and a 120 mm fan on the side of my case blowing right on my card. I have not pushed either core or ram beyond 306/360 since the added fans. But so far, not a sigh of artifacts.

I am wanting to add these ramsinks and take off my shim when I do the dirty deed. I would love to get my 3.3 ns ram to at least 310. I am not sure what to expect to get out of my core.

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[lhgpoobaa]

The AS epoxy resin i used only came in 2 tubes, and the instructions said 1:1

If you have a 3 part kit then yes, adding more of the silver will give slightly higher thermal transfer rates, but weaker bonding.
so 1:1:2 would give weaker bonding, possibly even 1:1:3 but no higher.

and what i do is just mix it on a clean sheet of white paper. squeeze out approx equal amounts and stir together with a toothpick & apply.

Dont forget to give it a number of hours to dry fully.
Epoxy looses some strength when it gets warm.


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[Titanion]

I have a 2 part kit and a tube of AS3. I think I will try 1:1:2

BTW, why a clean, white sheet of paper?

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[lhgpoobaa]

*shrug*
just convenient.
Its a clean mixing surface, u can see what your doing, u dont need much anyway and once done just crumple it up into a ball and throw it away! No fuss. No mess.

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I am not a Via fanboy.
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[TKS]

Why worry about removing ramsinks when they cost very little anyway? Just permabond those puppies on and when you upgrade vid cards...whack another few on those as well. Remember that the more you dilute it, the less heat will transfer. Anytime you dilute something you take away the effectiveness of it. If you are a performance nut then I'd just use the stock bonding material you want without diluting it. You can't save much money from having 'removable' ramsinks....and if your an OCer...you should know that it isn't worth it.

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[Titanion]

I did not think diluting it with AS3 would decrease heat transfer... making the bonds less permanent seemed like a wise thing to do.

I just want to do it right. An extra 4 MHz in ram would make me happy, and I already have the heatsinks...

Ff the card craps out, and it is overclocked, does that mean there is NO WAY to validate a warrenty... if that should happen, I would at least like to try...

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[Titanion]

"Remember that the more you dilute it, the less heat will transfer."

One last thing before I close this thread and stick on those ramsinks. Will diluting the AS Adhesive with AS3 produce less heat transfer. If so, I will likely just leave off the AS3.

Now, to follow that one up, has anyone here had success puting a video card in a plastic bag and puting it in a freezer for a half hour. I have read that the ramsinks pop off. Is that an urban legend or what?

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[Guest]

Captain Obvious says less AS3 equals a lower thermal transfer rate!

The AS3 is what transfers the heat, not the epoxy!

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[Titanion]

We will see how this works... I used a 1:1:1 ratio and stuck those cheap ramsinks on... If I get from 306 to 310 I will be a happy camper and stop messing with my ram... I am going to let it set until tomorrow night.

Then it will be time to see how far above 360 I can get my core to go withpout artifacts... 360 seems like a good overclock to me, but I probably suck...

If my ram overclocks worse and I am back down to 300 or something I will begin to worship GW.

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