eradicating artifacts

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Animate Artifact:
Enchanted artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and
toughness each equal to its converted mana cost.

Eradicate
Remove target nonblack creature from the game. Search its
controller's graveyard, hand, and library for all copies of that card
and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or her
library.

If I animate a (non-creature) artifact, can I then cast eradicate to
get
rid of all artifacts in my opponents graveyard, hand , and library with
the
same name as that artifact?

I think I can, but I though I'd double check.

 

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I seem to have experienced an extremely realistic hallucination in which
Monte Gardner said...
> Animate Artifact:
> Enchanted artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and
> toughness each equal to its converted mana cost.
>
> Eradicate
> Remove target nonblack creature from the game. Search its
> controller's graveyard, hand, and library for all copies of that card
> and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or her
> library.
>
> If I animate a (non-creature) artifact, can I then cast eradicate to
> get
> rid of all artifacts in my opponents graveyard, hand , and library with
> the
> same name as that artifact?
>
> I think I can, but I though I'd double check.

Yes, this works. Eradicate doesn't say it only looks for creature cards,
and even if it did (depending on the exact wording) the following rule
would probably kick in:

202.2a If an ability of an object uses a phrase such as "this
[something]" to identify an object, where [something] is a category or
characteristic, it is referring to that particular object, even if it
isn't the appropriate category or characteristic at the time.
Example: An ability reads "Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
Destroy that creature at end of turn." The ability will destroy the
object it gave +2/+2 at the end of the turn, even if that object isn't a
creature anymore.

 

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Monte Gardner <Monte.Gardner@asu.edu> wrote:

> Animate Artifact:
> Enchanted artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and
> toughness each equal to its converted mana cost.
>
> Eradicate
> Remove target nonblack creature from the game. Search its
> controller's graveyard, hand, and library for all copies of that card
> and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or her
> library.
>
> If I animate a (non-creature) artifact, can I then cast eradicate to
> get
> rid of all artifacts in my opponents graveyard, hand , and library with
> the
> same name as that artifact?
>
> I think I can, but I though I'd double check.

Remove target nonblack creature from the game. Search its controller's
graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with the same name as that
creature and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or
her library.

Only if it is controlled by your opponent.

And you are otherwise right; Eradicate says to remove all cards with the
same name, not all CREATURE cards with the same name. It does not
require that the target be a "natural-born" creature.
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Daniel W. Johnson
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I hope that doesn't work. Cause if it does you can turn a land into a
creature and remove all the lands from someon's deck

 

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On 24 Feb 2005 21:27:41 -0800, Monte Gardner <Monte.Gardner@asu.edu> wrote:
>Animate Artifact:
>Enchanted artifact becomes an artifact creature with power and
>toughness each equal to its converted mana cost.

"Enchanted artifact is a creature with power and toughness each equal to its
converted mana cost. It's still an artifact."

>Eradicate
>Remove target nonblack creature from the game. Search its
>controller's graveyard, hand, and library for all copies of that card
>and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or her library.

Bad wording; it's usually a better idea to look in Oracle/Gatherer for an
older card's wording than it is to copy it straight off the card. Eradicate's
actual wording doesn't involve "copy" at all:

"Remove target nonblack creature from the game. Search its controller's
graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with the same name as that creature
and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or her library."

These interact just fine. Eradicate removes the targetted creature, then
has you search for cards with the same _name_ as it. It doesn't care what card
type the other cards might have or not have; it doesn't restrict you to
searching for CREATURE cards with that name, in particular.

>If I animate a (non-creature) artifact, can I then cast eradicate to get
>rid of all artifacts in my opponents graveyard, hand , and library with the
>same name as that artifact?

Yes you may.

Dave
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On 25 Feb 2005 15:00:35 -0800, NerdZilla <Nertak@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I hope that doesn't work. Cause if it does you can turn a land into a
>creature and remove all the lands from someon's deck

Nope; only "all the lands with that same name". And that works fine; you may
somehow animate opponent's Mountain, then Eradicate it and strip all the
other Mountains from his hand, library, and/or graveyard. Note that this does
nothing to get rid of his OTHER Mountains in play ... and note that this does
nothing to lands he may have in his deck with other names (Snow-Covered
Mountain, Barbarian Ring, Great Furnace, etc.).

Dave
--
\/David DeLaney posting from dbd@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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