ohim :
The 290x was never a GTX980 competitor , it was against 780 / Ti . And it`s only your fault that you got a reference cooler card, same applies to Nvidia though they have better reference coolers but not ideal. I have a 290 oc Vapor-x that is dead silent (never uses more than 40% of it`s fan speed) and i game between 72-75°C in normal days , tops out at 80°C on very hot summer days."Everybody goes ooh AMD is hot, go Nvidia, then you take a look at GTX780 980 temps and you see temps betwee 70 and 80°C just like my 290. And no matter how you put it, that`s hot!."
Not really true---if you remember, the 290x (the direct 980 competitor) when it came out was running ridiculously hot until the custom cooler designs hit the market. I was one of those dumb early adopters who had to suffer with the shrieking vacuum of the overtaxed 290x reference cooler. And even with that noise, it was still in the low 90s in graphics-intesive games--at STOCK speeds.
The r9-390 will go against 980, not the 290.
Eximo :
I wasn't discussing temperature, but power consumption. Engineering is all about achieving a goal with the least amount of resources. Lower TDP means a possibly cheaper cooler or smaller form factor. This also decreases the need for power supply cost and chassis cooling.
On the CPU front, you are comparing two different measurement techniques. The temperatures you see are different between AMD and Intel. If your FX8350 is dissipating 125W, that doesn't change regardless of the temperature being measured.
On the CPU front, you are comparing two different measurement techniques. The temperatures you see are different between AMD and Intel. If your FX8350 is dissipating 125W, that doesn't change regardless of the temperature being measured.
I wasn`t discussing the thermal dissipation (the radiator was hotter on FX than on i7 this is were TDP comes in more heat generated). I was talking about the actual core temperature where the i7 runs at quite high temps, due to lower die size and smaller contact with the cooler. .. and we all know that high temp usually means lower life for the part. Just search 4790k temp problem. I even find it stupid that intel for such a premium CPU like the 4770k and 4790k they used such a low grade thermal paste ....
And I am telling you are they are measured differently. You aren't measuring core temperature directly on FX processors, you are measuring the package temperature (the temperature of each dual core module) and some offset value AMD has set. Also the reason the core temperature measurement doesn't work very well at idle temperatures.
On Intel you are measuring the junction temperature. This is as close as you can get to the actual CPU cores and thus the higher temperatures.