FA: FS-1 Firestore - Direct to Disk Recording

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Up on eBay until the evening of September 3rd is a lightly used FS-1
Focus Enhancements Firestore. This allows for Direct to Disk Recording
saving you much time in video production.

Technically, there are 2 up for auction, top 2 Bidders will win.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21168&item=3835823
419

or

http://6URL.com/2E2

Full Product Detail Here:

http://www.focusinfo.com/products/firestore/fs-1.html

This Recording unit comes with two firewire cables, and ac power cords.
Everything is in like new condition and will be an excellent deal for
the buyer. Looking to cut down time in tape transfer then this is your
solution!

 

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"Quoter" <marcs@attbi.net> wrote in message
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> Up on eBay until the evening of September 3rd is a lightly used FS-1
> Focus Enhancements Firestore. This allows for Direct to Disk Recording
> saving you much time in video production.

Out of curiousity, the maker's web page says it uses Fat32 for its
filesystems. This means each individual AVI file it creates is limited to
about 20 minutes, due to Fat32's 4GB filesize limitation.

Is this ever a problem, or does the device have some technique for dealing
with this seamlessly?

 

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"Shawn Barnhart" <usenet@grasslake.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Quoter" <marcs@attbi.net> wrote in message
> news:marcs-C0B5BE.21053501092004@news.uswest.net...
> > Up on eBay until the evening of September 3rd is a lightly used FS-1
> > Focus Enhancements Firestore. This allows for Direct to Disk Recording
> > saving you much time in video production.
>
> Out of curiousity, the maker's web page says it uses Fat32 for its
> filesystems. This means each individual AVI file it creates is limited
to
> about 20 minutes, due to Fat32's 4GB filesize limitation.
>
> Is this ever a problem, or does the device have some technique for dealing
> with this seamlessly?
>
I don't know how the Firestore handles it, but I think the Sony product
handles it by writing files as specific sized blocks on the drive. one file
might contain several small clips, or just a portion of a long clip. I don't
know how that is handled once you transfer the material to the computer.
It may just appear to be the same as a normal DV tape coming from a
camcorder when connected to the computer via 1394.

If this isn't correct, I hope some will offer a correction. This is based on
my
memory of what a Sony guy told me at NAB a few years ago.

David

 

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sounds about right. but I wonder why this unit is separate from HD?
Isn't the Sony model integrated?
This way you don't need separate power supplies for both the controller and
the HD, with wiring all over the place.
I think I would prefer a single integrated solution to this.

AnthonyR.


"david.mccall" <david.mccallUNDERLINE@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Shawn Barnhart" <usenet@grasslake.net> wrote in message
> news:41373440$0$65568$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com...
>>
>> "Quoter" <marcs@attbi.net> wrote in message
>> news:marcs-C0B5BE.21053501092004@news.uswest.net...
>> > Up on eBay until the evening of September 3rd is a lightly used FS-1
>> > Focus Enhancements Firestore. This allows for Direct to Disk Recording
>> > saving you much time in video production.
>>
>> Out of curiousity, the maker's web page says it uses Fat32 for its
>> filesystems. This means each individual AVI file it creates is limited
> to
>> about 20 minutes, due to Fat32's 4GB filesize limitation.
>>
>> Is this ever a problem, or does the device have some technique for
>> dealing
>> with this seamlessly?
>>
> I don't know how the Firestore handles it, but I think the Sony product
> handles it by writing files as specific sized blocks on the drive. one
> file
> might contain several small clips, or just a portion of a long clip. I
> don't
> know how that is handled once you transfer the material to the computer.
> It may just appear to be the same as a normal DV tape coming from a
> camcorder when connected to the computer via 1394.
>
> If this isn't correct, I hope some will offer a correction. This is based
> on
> my
> memory of what a Sony guy told me at NAB a few years ago.
>
> David
>
>

 

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"AnthonyR" <toomuchspam@tolisthere.com> wrote in message
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> sounds about right. but I wonder why this unit is separate from HD?
> Isn't the Sony model integrated?
> This way you don't need separate power supplies for both the controller
and
> the HD, with wiring all over the place.
> I think I would prefer a single integrated solution to this.
>
I guess that depends on how you are going to use it.

The Sony DSR-DU1 doe have an internal drive but it cost twice as much,
and is less versatile. If you want to use it as a backup to the DV tape
while shooting in a situation where you will be moving around a lot, then
the Sony would be a better choice.

The Firestore uses any available "firewire" type drive, which means that you
do have 2 units wired together, and have a need to supply both units with
power,
while the Sony is self containd and can use a common camera battery to power
it.
If you were documenting a seminar that ran all week, then the Firestore
might be
better in that you could swap the firewire drives at any point, allowing the
drive
you have been recording to be sent back to the edit suite so they can start
editing
the material imediately. With this arangement you are swaping out a $150
drive,
but with the Sony you would ave to swap out the whole $2,000 drive with it's
built-in controller. It really depends on how you plan to use it, and your
budget.

David

 

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"david.mccall" <david.mccallUNDERLINE@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "AnthonyR" <toomuchspam@tolisthere.com> wrote in message
> news:lnHZc.3778$as.1244631@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>> sounds about right. but I wonder why this unit is separate from HD?
>> Isn't the Sony model integrated?
>> This way you don't need separate power supplies for both the controller
> and
>> the HD, with wiring all over the place.
>> I think I would prefer a single integrated solution to this.
>>
> I guess that depends on how you are going to use it.
>
> The Sony DSR-DU1 doe have an internal drive but it cost twice as much,
> and is less versatile. If you want to use it as a backup to the DV tape
> while shooting in a situation where you will be moving around a lot, then
> the Sony would be a better choice.
>
> The Firestore uses any available "firewire" type drive, which means that
> you
> do have 2 units wired together, and have a need to supply both units with
> power,
> while the Sony is self containd and can use a common camera battery to
> power
> it.
> If you were documenting a seminar that ran all week, then the Firestore
> might be
> better in that you could swap the firewire drives at any point, allowing
> the
> drive
> you have been recording to be sent back to the edit suite so they can
> start
> editing
> the material imediately. With this arangement you are swaping out a $150
> drive,
> but with the Sony you would ave to swap out the whole $2,000 drive with
> it's
> built-in controller. It really depends on how you plan to use it, and your
> budget.
>
> David
>
>
David,
Thanks so much for all the info!

AnthonyR.