FAR CRY 2 A little disappointed so far!

[dagger]

Hell, Epic originally claimed that the first Gears of War would have fully destructible environments, and look how far from the truth that was.

Whatever happened to the "completely destructible" environments?

Destructible environment — No more obstacles: Everything is breakable and alterable, even in Multiplayer mode. The DUNIA engine's RealTree technology also delivers the most realistic nature deterioration system ever.

That is complete BS. I know FC2 is completely separate from Crysis but the comparisons are inevitable. So to make a claim like that about the destructible environments and have the actual product be so inferior to what Crysis offers is just dumb.
Examples: After getting to the first safe house I wanted to try some of the this out. So I go out side and see a pile of logs. First I try hitting them with the machete. One or two logs from the top fall off and nothing else. Then I start shooting, nothing else even moves. Then a grenade, nothing else moves. So I back up and fire the rocket launcher and the pile remains in tact.
So now I walk over to the car. Fire away few rounds into the windshield and get some decals but no broken glass. I go around to the side and open up on the side of the car. A few more decals and the door pops open but no real damage. Then I unload my side arm into the front tire. Every single bullet bounces off and the tire remains good as new. As I walk away from the vehicle in disgust I realize that within the couple minutes of doing all this the bullet "holes" in the windshield have disappeared and the glass is crystal clear.
While walking around the wooded areas I've tried repeatedly to hack away at the vegetation with the machete but to no avail, the brush is nothing more than scenery.

I've just started playing and I think it can be fun but I definitly think Ubisoft came up short of the expectations they laid out. And despite this game having no real relation to either Far Cry or Crysis, those are still going to be the obvious measuring rods for this game and Far Cry 2 will suffer for that. Maybe the game will be ok, but we'll all be left wondering how much better this game would have been had the same concept been used but with a better engine - like oh say, Crytek's?

Now that's just unfair. You have to realize that Ubisoft has to dumb it down so it'll run on consoles. Crytek didn't need to deal with this because their game is PC only. Consoles lack the raw power needed to give significant physics effects. Xbox360 runs on ATI Xeno gpu (equivalent of x1900) which don't accelerate physics effects, and a triple core IBM variant Xeon cpu (equivalent of early generation downclocked and crippled server Xeon), which isn't powerful enough to run physics. What Far Cry 2 had now is truly impressive, given the huge handicaps. The amount of console optimizations Ubisoft had to do in order to make it run must have been massive. You should give credit where credit is due.

 

[purplerat]

How the hell is that unfair when the quote I posted came directly from the Steam page advertising the game today?

again:

Destructible environment — No more obstacles: Everything is breakable and alterable, even in Multiplayer mode. The DUNIA engine's RealTree technology also delivers the most realistic nature deterioration system ever.

Not only is that a blatant lie, but knowing what it will be compaired to and still spinning that BS is just plain stupid. If they had to dumb it down for consoles and weren't willing to put in the extra work for PCs then fine. I still probably would have played it but why just flat out lie and try to make the game out to be something it isn't. I just hope that word about this gets around fast in the PC gaming world. If there's a PC gamer out there interested in a game with the features described above, go buy Crysis Warhead for $20 less.

 

[Spitfire7]

How the hell is that unfair when the quote I posted came directly from the Steam page advertising the game today?

again:

Destructible environment — No more obstacles: Everything is breakable and alterable, even in Multiplayer mode. The DUNIA engine's RealTree technology also delivers the most realistic nature deterioration system ever.

Not only is that a blatant lie, but knowing what it will be compaired to and still spinning that BS is just plain stupid. If they had to dumb it down for consoles and weren't willing to put in the extra work for PCs then fine. I still probably would have played it but why just flat out lie and try to make the game out to be something it isn't. I just hope that word about this gets around fast in the PC gaming world. If there's a PC gamer out there interested in a game with the features described above, go buy Crysis Warhead for $20 less.

I went and bought Crysis Warhead after taking FC2 back and it was a way better decision.

 

[golfkid56]

I bought it an am not into it... I gues i am spoiled by Crysis and COD 4. Game reminds me of Zelda meets Grand Theft Auto. Kinda G^Y thinking but it does. Hey I am getting flahing white dots while playing any ideas?

 

[San Pedro]

I cant get over some of the goofy colors, someone please tell me this is my graphics card or monitor, but my monitor is showing bright reds and Greens and Purples on rocks and the ground

I had same problem. I'm using 4870 on Vista 64 with catalyst 8.9. I only get the spots in DX10. I reverted back to 8.10 because I couldn't see my high def movies playing back any more. Hopefully 8.11 fixes that.

About the game, it seems like a straight up console port to me. The map was not designed like a pc game. It seems real flat and it keeps you in the valleys. The shooting doesn't seem all that great either. Hopefully the story and mission will help make up for some of the short falls.

BTW since it seems like it was designed for a console I was playing on the lcd tv with a xbox 360 controller. Half Life 2 Episode 2 greatly outshines playing the game the same way. I think a good deal of the pc magazines and web sites were a little generous with this game's rating.

 

[Spitfire7]

I read a thread about FC2 that for all nVidia GPU's they require a brand new update. NVidia was aware of this and actually created a new driver that worked for this game. I thought my drivers were all up to date, but when I installed the game I got a warning message saying my drivers were not for that game. So over to EVGA graphics drivers and got the latest one and everything worked perfectly. So apparently its looking like a lot if not most cards will need the latest update made for FC2.

 

[woodeneye]

You think the Sp is bad wait till you try the MP!

 

[VoidNull]

And then people wonder why Piracy is running rampant... why the hell are they doing limited installation DRM on this PoS? I have seen better games come free in boxes of cereal.

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel the graphics have a "Cartoony" feel to them?

The trees look great, the shadows look great, but the character models and lighting look like they are made out of clay and that "Realistic Fire" is some of the worst I have seen in a game yet.

And this is with EVERYTHING turned up on max, including fire, trees and physics.

 

[speedbird]

I can't even get far cry 2 to work, because it keep telling me that my activation has failed. It also appears that I am not alone with this, as I found out when I visted the far cry 2 official Forum. It appears to be a problem with their activation servers currently. Ubisoft have really mucked this up big time! I hope I can play soon.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/1521068375

It's well know that the pirates find ways round this sercurity, but game companies punish legitimate users with this rubbish!

God I'm angry

 

[purplerat]

Make sure to use "-" in the serial key input field. It's not divided into sections nor does it automatically insert hyphens (which apparently are critical to the key working). To me that was the first clue as to how lazy the programmers were in making this title for the PC. They couldn't even get the serial key input field right.

 

[vertigo_2000]

Ubisoft is garbage.

Seems every game they put out lately is full of bugs.

I had so many problems with Rainbow Six Vegas 2 that I returned it.

I was looking forward to FC2 hoping it was being developed by Crytek. I was a little disappointed to find out Ubisoft was doing it. At that point I decided to wait for some of the reviews before purchasing it.

I guess I made the right decision. The vast majority of the comments have been negative.

I guess I can skip this title.

 

[Ananan]

I just saw that PC Gamer is going to give FarCry 2 a 94%.

If they've screwed their readers yet again by giving an epic score to a mediocre game I'm done with that magazine for good.

 

[dokk2]

WOW !!! And i thought that the Ubisoft forums were bad,though I must agree with the general consensus Ubisoft missed the mark on this one ,and, I do not think that any kind of patching will ever fix this turkey, maybe in time there will be some user maps that will make it worthwhile but,not at $50.00 for the game it just ain't worth it,btw I have personally known a few real life mercs ,and not one of them is under 30 and had a regular military rank of less that master sargent or equivalent..What a waste..

 

[emp]

Well you're done with that magazine for sure then. I didn't want to pass judgment on it until I got some time playing the game, but I just can't get into the game, the combat interface doesn't feel right for a shooter. And what the hell is up with those "missions", this game makes me feel like it's Grand Theft Auto in Africa with a First Person view, not Far Cry.

The OP might be slightly disappointed, but I am EXTREMELY disappointed, this game doesn't do the Far Cry name justice in any aspect, to me it feels clunky, geared towards a console style of gameplay, and without a substantial story.

 

[fergie]

Do you think that pc gamer had to give a good score for having the exclusive because I subcribe and this game is no way 94% maybe mid 80s I'd say.It makes me mad because I got this on their recommendation.

 

[stemnin]

I just saw that PC Gamer is going to give FarCry 2 a 94%.

If they've screwed their readers yet again by giving an epic score to a mediocre game I'm done with that magazine for good.

Which PCG is that? UK? They gave Warhead a 60-something I think.

Ok, enough with the negativity! I'm picking it up in a few hours and I feel like ****. I need something to play for a few days until Fallout 3 this tuesday!

(I will probably add rants tomorrow morning )

 

[dagger]

You guys are missing the point. Far Cry 2 is the most beautiful game yet for consoles. It's garbage only by PC standards. Your expectations were too high. This is a console game designed for kids that only know how to plug in a video game box into a TV, not a PC title designed for real gamers that know how to use a computer. 😛

 

[emp]

I guess you're right, even though I knew Ubisoft can't possibly make a good game, I was sorta expecting that maybe... sorta...possibly... they'd make something that would at least mirror the original Far Cry.

I don't think I'll play that GTA-esque Shooter piece of junk any time soon, but I am definitely putting my hopes up for Fallout 3 and Left 4 Dead Those two are sure not to disappoint.

 

[Spitfire7]

Which PCG is that? UK? They gave Warhead a 60-something I think.

Ok, enough with the negativity! I'm picking it up in a few hours and I feel like ****. I need something to play for a few days until Fallout 3 this tuesday!

(I will probably add rants tomorrow morning )

Warhead a 60 and FC2 a 94????? That magazine is stupid!!! I thought Warhead at the beginning was slightly different and graphics were slightly decreased, but then I got into the frozen water's levels, the caves, and so on and am completely blown away again. I almost just want to walk around and enjoy the scenery because these things are so beautiful lol, yeah I'm a dork I know lol.

STILL DISAPPOINTED WITH FC2 THOUGH! Very sad, very sad.

 

[San Pedro]

Yeah, if I had a PC Gamer subscription I would cancel it over this. FC 2 is a console game. It wasn't designed with the PC in made. That game is not in same league for a PC game as Half Life games, Bioshock, Call of Duty, etc. The best FPS games are always designed for PC, and this game wasn't. I'll definitely give it some more time, but I am having a little buyer's remorse. Hopefully Fallout 3 will be much better, it probably will since bethesda is a long time PC developer.

Someone said the graphics were cartoony. You're right they are. The grass and envirnoment look ok, but some of the textures are junk, especially the cars.

 

[dagger]

Yeah, if I had a PC Gamer subscription I would cancel it over this. FC 2 is a console game. It wasn't designed with the PC in made. That game is not in same league for a PC game as Half Life games, Bioshock, Call of Duty, etc. The best FPS games are always designed for PC, and this game wasn't. I'll definitely give it some more time, but I am having a little buyer's remorse. Hopefully Fallout 3 will be much better, it probably will since bethesda is a long time PC developer.

Someone said the graphics were cartoony. You're right they are. The grass and envirnoment look ok, but some of the textures are junk, especially the cars.

Fallout 3 should be somewhat on mark, despite available on Xbox360 as well as PC. It's designed with PC as a starting point, only included console for more profit, using scaled back graphics and physics. A PC game ported to console, not a console game ported to PC. The problem with Far Cry 2 is that every effort was made to make sure PC and console versions are identical. Cross-platform games that didn't suck also had the PC version offering heavier graphics at max settings than console versions. CoD4, for example, provides far heavier texture AF and depth field options for PC version.

 

[Spitfire7]

Hey Dagger any world if GTA4 will have better graphics and be better for PC? I heard about several new online options for the PC version, but like you were saying, have you heard at all if us PC guys will be having this same issue with GTA4? I have very high expectations for it, any world on if us PC guys will be as broken hearted as we were with FC2? I was impressed with GTA3, GTA SA, and I have a feelings I will be with #4 too.

 

[malveaux]

Oh thank heavens,

I started to feel guilty when I stopped playing after the opening shoot out at the hotel. I was expecting some kind of amazing graphics with it all cranked up and everything enabled. I was expecting some great sound effects, some really cool scenes, and some action. Instead, it started out so incredibly weak. I mean, you get to select a `dude' from a list. Then you are just driving some where and talking with a really stupid cab driver. It felt so much like they all played COD4 and thought "what a cool way to introduce the character and game!" and then turned around and failed at trying to recreate that. Instead of the scene and landscape looking like the videos I remember (orangy skies, very vibrant, etc), it was just all kinds of brown and some blue sky. Really lame and bland looking. The lighting was so completely washed out too. There were no dark places that were `kinda' dark. Just really light, and really hidden. That's just crappy. The story, well, you're at the hotel, something happened, you meet the guy, he's like some Don Juan looking dude straight out of GQ with a knife. And he lets you live? Why? Pfft. Next you fight at the hotel to escape. You faint. You end up captured and you meet someone who looks like a teenager. He's totally trusting and just standing there like you couldn't just kill him since you're totally surprised and found yourself in a new strange place. What. The. Crap. Dialog? Terrible. The opening dialog explaining the situation? Terrible.

Crysis is a poor game. It looks freaking unreal. But it's a poor ass game.

This game both looks like balls and is LESS playable than Crysis.

Holy Crap.

Montreal is sucking when it comes to throwing out games.... I'm glad I moved away from there back to Florida. *Sigh*

Ok... on to looking forward to Dead Space & Fallout 3.

Cheers,

 

[accu]

i really hate the color. i mean, cant they just add more life to the color?? its not like the color will cause performance drop or somthing rite?

 

[murdoc]

Well I didn't have a good comp for years so I didn't play much of crysis until recently. I also played a bit of FarCry when it first released and I thought it was stunning.

FC2 tried hard to make things realistic but I think they've over exaggerated some of the stuff. As mentioned before even at point blank I had to load an entire clip from my machine gun to kill him which is totally ridiculous. I find that walking takes too long (the map is way too big). Although you're given a vehicles to drive, you can't control the gun while you're driving so in SP it makes you pretty defenseless (you can't even stick out your gun like the gansters do for drive by). The most annoying part for me is the malaria which happened a lot during the beginning (before meeting up with that guy at church to get my pills). I kept fainting and having to restart my mission. They've also given hints on how to tell if a gun is likely to jam or not but I failed to see any physical difference =/

I like their effects and well their graphics isn't 100% the best but I must say it is still respectable. I agree about the blood looking like paint lol... I thought that was pretty funny. One thing I noticed as I try to enjoy the scenary is that there's always this layer of fog hanging around the area and I'm not sure if that's intended on purpose?

The dialogs also seem very onesided. Most of the time the guys there are answering for you and you (the character) actually don't have a lot of stuff to say in return.

I haven't had issues with gun jamming (it only happened once for me at this point), but I find the battle system rather difficult. It's very hard for me to locate where my enemies are (I'm getting shot out of nowhere) and there's really no place for me to find proper cover and get healed (they just hammer you until you die unless you've already cleared out half of them in the area).

I've also wondered why if they've built a GPS to help us navagate that they don't allow us to mark our destination so that we can follow a path (i would imagine it'll draw a path on the map) and navagate easier instead of having to pull out the map (while driving) which covers a lot of your viewable area.

The running is bad because you can only sprint for a bit and you don't run very quick in the game so if you're trying to escape life gets twice as hard. Your stamina is also extremely weak so it makes you walk most of the time. You'll probably find yourself walking more than anything else.

If I was to say one good thing about this game is their environment system. I liked how weather changes dynamically as well as animals reacting to you. Although I've only seen deers so far I hope to see more animals.

Overall I'd say this game deserves an 8. I have to give them credit for improving system performance but the design is still lacking a bit.