FAR CRY ing out loud - reality check, Part II

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Yeah, although a couple times I sure would have saved after defeating a foe, I totally agree with you. The save points were almost always frequent enough. I think you either suck or are playing at too low framerates if you couldn't get passed any part of the game. The last two battles were hard and took me a few tries for sure, but no biggy really. Having no option to manually save, extended the game play and the game gives you so many plan of attack options that if you die, don't moan about it, do it differently and kick butt the next try. Anyway, I think you put it so well in your post I had to say right-on.


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Your what?

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So he can continue to complain about it :wink:

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Sorry for reviving an almost dead thread, but I just cracked open the June 2004 PC Gamer magazine. They have a full review of Far Cry and they too like Toms and myself, are thrilled with the game. Just a few quotes for you to chew over:

"Who needs Doom 3 or Half-Life 2? Far Cry is one of the best shooters ever made."

"Far Cry is a stunning achievement and deserving of both your time and money. Go buy it right now."

"Without a doubt, Far Cry is the kind of game that reminds us all why we love this hobby so much."

"Highs: Exceptional Graphics and level design; solid AI, free-form and wide-open environments."

"Lows: The multiplayer mode is weak; the game eventually ends"

"Bottom Line: Believe the hype - Far Cry takes shooters to a whole new level."

Rating - 95% Editors' Choice


I just again wanted to show that many folks think this game is well worth the money. It isn't for arguements sake, I just don't want to see people skip this game without at least trying the demo.



All in all, the June issue is a good one and has a hands on HL2 playtest. Worth looking into this issue.




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I just don't want to see people skip this game without at least trying the demo.
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And I wanted people not to rush into buying the game . . . without at least trying the demo.

<font color=red>EDIT:</font color=red> Fair enough? I never said people should not buy it. I said that before they buy it they should consider not only the great (though IMO over-hyped aspects of the game) but also its serious shortcomings. While some people may be fine with what I (and people like me) hate about Far Cry, others may not be. Therefore, I really do not understand all the "hate mail" I received re my Far Cry threads. But I decided not to entertain these angry people whose only way of arguing a point is to insult those who are of a different opinion.

Heh, at first I was taking personal attacks personally, but when Ape suggested that I get "the feel" for this forum - I tried. I feel it alright: I've read many threads without replying to anyone and it appears to me that more than half of the posts are personal attacks and pointless banter... Keeney was very right about this place.

Anyhow, angry guys and gals, rejoice. You have effectively killed my desire to be an active THG poster. No, I am not leaving: There are after all a few cool and smart guys here. But you will be pleased to know that I will no longer annoy you with my radical posts.

Speaking about PC Gamer, I stopped subscribing to it because after many years and hating games they praised I decided that they are just corporate sellouts. Maybe just my experience. But for me the fact remains: I NEVER hated a game CGW praised and I often hated games highly acclaimed by PC Gamer.

<font color=green>"The creative powers of English morphology are pathetic compared to what we find in other languages." (Steven Pinker, The Language Instinct)</font color=green> 😎 <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Slava on 05/07/04 10:13 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
:wink:

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Re: Heh, at first I was taking personal attacks personally, but when Ape suggested that I get "the feel" for this forum - I tried. I feel it alright: I've read many threads without replying to anyone and it appears to me that more than half of the posts are personal attacks and pointless banter... Keeney was very right about this place.

Yes these forums can seem hostile at times. But its easy to deal with if you do not have some kind of monsterous ego. Just admitt you made a mistake or don't agree with an opinion, this can save an idiot tons of grief. No one knows everything. Saying you made a mistake, were wrong or respectfully disagree is not really all that hard to do.

Kinney was banned for a reason. and his opinion on these forums or place is irrelevant because he was banned for being a disruptive moron. Do I think he should have been banned! No.. unless he was warned first, then I fully agree! Kinney took the cake with nvidiotism, his 100% bias argumentative opinions he stated as facts did nothing but start flame wars. Over and over and over.

Do you worship Nvidia? cause I gotta wonder what makes you defend that guy.

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actually kinney was a fairweather poster, one week he would be an nvidiot, the next he would be a fanATIc....


but thats beside the point, youre right though. its just a forum noone should take it personally.

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Fairweather? I only remember rain and wind when that guy posted. Yeah I remember he purchased an ati card only to return it later and say it was junk. I was sad to see the guy go as much as I disliked his posting style and extreme opinions. It was not just nvidia he was like that with amd for the most part and us politics... The guy was way too emotional on name brand products and patriotism. Nothing wrong with being patriotic or favoring a name brand but he was ridiculous about it. It was getting way to disruptive and I think that is why he was banned.

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Gees people... ok I'm glad Salva that you have found a reviewer whose OPINIONS agree with your own OPINIONS therefore you can trust there reviews. And people who start bashing eachother... really, how stupid is it to argue over whether a game is good or not? "You can't please everyone" - obviously there will be people who don't like something for one reason or another.

Personally, i LOVE the fact that far cry has no save game feature. Quick saves ruin the tension in a lot of games for me and I end up blasting through them. For the first time in a long time I've actualy been challenged by Far Cry, but I was never annoyed and I didn't find it to be as difficult as some people who say, and I played on challenging. Maybe I'm a nerd, maybe not, but I only play a few games a year. And I run it on an old 1.2GHz Athlon with a GeForce 4200 at 1024 and low-medium details and it look plenty good for me and runs just fine.

And I've played a lot of games as well, Salva, and have owned about 75 of the best over the past 12-13 years, not that it matters, and not that it matters if you've played 250 games "so you know what makes a game fun." So what, everyone who thinks it is fun must be wrong? Gee, all this time I *THOUGHT* I was having fun, and so did a ton of other game reviews and players, but WE WERE ALL WRONG!!!!! No, wait, we're all being paid... I forgot.

Sorry if this was all covered already or there were other responses like this, I didn't take the time to read through the 15 pages of posts (!!!!) between the two threads. And anyway, all I'm saying is games come down to taste opinion and there's no such thing as being right or wrong. Give a game credit where credit is due, feel free to voice opinions about what you did or didn't like, but why do people bother arguing about it???

My take: I loved Far Cry and it was the best FPS IMO since Half-Life. Personally I like the no-save feature cuz quicksaves tend to make it too easy, and of course you can just not use the quick saves, but yeah right, who's that disciplined? Not me! haha. And I thought the game was a breakthrough graphically, awesome physics; it was creative and stayed fresh, it was intense, and it was way fun. As far as realism, umm... good enough... its a game... its fun... isn't that what counts? It was never trying to be a simulation. A lot of games would suck if they were made too realistic. The AI was great when it worked right but there were still plenty of instances of dumb behavior I noticed, but that didn't stop me for a second from having a blast.


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i agree totally,

personally, with other games like that(first person shooters with quick save), i always forget to quick save or whatever so i have to go back anyways, its like the same for me anyways. quicksave is like cheatin anyways,IMHO. but hey like you said you cant please everyone.

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Not for the sake of argument, just an observation: Last week I reinstalled System Shock 2. Man ... now THAT'S a great game. It has quick save. Yet, this is the most intense game ever made. Oh, the sound... Oh, the foes... Too tired to go into details, but if you have it or never played it you gotta play it(or play it again). Funny thing is that it actually looks pretty damn good too (at high res set manually in the *.cfg file) though it is like 7 years old or so.

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gotta see if i can find it somewhere, never played it.

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gotta see if i can find it somewhere, never played it.
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Oh, I see now why you love Far Cry (no pun intended). I was thinking why some people would so adamantly disagree with my assessment of Far Cry. Hmmm. I did not mean to toot my own horn when I said that I own and have played well in excess of 250 games. I simply meant to say that it gives me a huge basis for comparison. And that guy who said above that he is not new to PC gaming stating that he owns some 75 games has a point, but I am still three times more experienced a gamer than he is 😀

That said, I will try to illustrate my Far Cry assessment by way of an unrelated example: If you are lucky (and cursed at the same time), like me you may have had some amazing experiences with some truly remarkable women. Alas, nothing lasts forever and often times people go their separate ways. Well, I have found it difficult to become interested in any of the women I have been meeting lately because they all pale in comparison to those with whom I had the pleasure to be in the past.

The same “principle” applies to gaming. If I had nothing better to pitch Far Cry against I would probably love it. But Far Cry after System Shock and DeusX feels somewhat castrated, sort of like Diablo 2 compared to Baldur’s Gate 2.

A couple of fitting quotes from CGW

Overrated: rag-doll physics; Underrated: gameplay
Overrated: eye-candy; Underrated: story

And one more from me 😱) Overrated: Far Cry; Underrated: System Shock 2

Problem with SS2 was that the game was SO much ahead of its time in every imaginable way (including hardware requirements) that it never became very popular. But, hey, Mozart is not popular, like some Ace of Base, but is there really any contest? There are short-lived cheap things and there are timeless classics...

<font color=red>EDIT:</font color=red> If you do find and choose to play SS2, be advised that it does not work under WinXP but there is an unofficial XP patch (google it). And to save you the trouble you will need the official multiplayer patch because it allows you to edit game’s *.cfg files manually. This is important because in the original game release weapons used to degrade way too quickly and you found yourself hunting for repair tools a lot. With this patch you can set the rate of weapon deterioration to whatever you feel is realistic. You can even set it to none if you find this aspect of the game annoying.

LOL, come to think of it, I finished Far Cry in about 20 hours and never touched it again. I’ve replayed SS2 some 10 times. . . SS2 fits on ONE CD. . . SS2 offers at least 50 hours of amazing gameplay. . .

<font color=green>"The creative powers of English morphology are pathetic compared to what we find in other languages." (Steven Pinker, The Language Instinct)</font color=green> 😎 <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Slava on 05/10/04 10:19 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
This belongs in the games section.

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Slava, the latest issue of Maximum PC (June) also reviewed Far Cry. They gave it a 9/10 and said it was one of the best FPSs they've played in a long time, and I fully agree.

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still workin on getting ss2, and patch of course...

im still playin FC even after i beat it though.

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