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On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:03:55 -0500, Last2Know wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>> First of all that is only values, not what they actually was traded for.
>
> I've personally seen these type of circlets often trade for high value, so
> I can vouch that it is very real in SC. As I said, initially, there is
> not so large a PvP community in HC for obvious reasons, so I don't expect
> the trade value to be relatively as high, but it can still be substantial
> with the right mods.
>
And maybe therefore the value is lower in HC just as i stated.
There isn't much high level duelling in HC, some of the highest i see/read
about is midlevel with chars up to max level 62. That also means that they
will never use a +2 skills circlet since they always have level 67 req.
>> If you on the same board try to search the hardcore trading post then
>> you will see almost every trader there don't want those circlets.
>
> What I was trying to say above is that the total number of HC posts on all
> the trading boards I could think to check was so low that I couldn't find
> anything conclusive that way.
>
I use some of these forums for trading on HC, and i don't remember seeing
circlets going for no way near the prices on SC. Sometimes you might see a
circlet with the right mods including 15-20 res all go for a UM, but
without the res i doesn't go for near that much, since the buyer then will
need to socket it with um to get high resists.
>> To put
>> it mild, thet don't give a rbbits ass about fcr or frw. All and everyone
>> i've seen there want shako, it had +2 skills and both huge mana and life
>> pool which most if not all hcl players prefer over fcr or frw.
>
> FRW is underrated as a safety feature. But that aside, HC players do care
> a lot about resists, and a rare circlet with +2 skills can easily give
> much more resists than a Shako, intrinsically and/or by providing 2
> sockets.
Not that long ago i lost a rare tiara with that mod on, and yes my barb
really liked it, with that, increased speed and frw from boots i walked
faster than most others runs.
On if we talk about fcr i can give you a little example from one of my own
chars.
I'm working on a boner right now, so what i want is getting as much life
and mana i can and reach the last fcr breakpoint for necro's.
To reach all that the gear selection goes something like this.
Shako socketed with UM
Upped viper socketed with UM
+3 skills + 27 res all boneflame socketed with pdia
Hoto
Arachnid mesh
Tr gloves
marrowalk boots
one misc ring
one rare ring with 10% fcr and res
crafted caster amu.
This build will walk hell with max resists and have reached the last fcr
breakpoint.
And on top of that 10-15% of his life pool will come from shako and 15-20%
of his mana pool will come from shako too.
I could get one extra +1 skills if i used SOJ or BK ring in stead of a
fcr, and then get one of those +2 skills circlets and a mara's amu, but
that will only cost me a lot more and i will get lower life, if i use SOJ
my mana pool might be raised a little.
But what would that cost me?
I don't need shako with UM, that saves my MAL + 2 UM, which is rougly the
same as ist which then would be the price of that circlet. Then i need to
buy a mara with close to perfect res which will cost me vex+maybe 2 ists,
and then the SOJ which goes for ist+um to ist+mal.
So basicly to get a build with one more skill, the same mana and a lower
life would cost my vex+3ists+um or mal.
Do you think that is worth it?
--
Sonni
On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:03:55 -0500, Last2Know wrote:
> [snip]
>>>
>> First of all that is only values, not what they actually was traded for.
>
> I've personally seen these type of circlets often trade for high value, so
> I can vouch that it is very real in SC. As I said, initially, there is
> not so large a PvP community in HC for obvious reasons, so I don't expect
> the trade value to be relatively as high, but it can still be substantial
> with the right mods.
>
And maybe therefore the value is lower in HC just as i stated.
There isn't much high level duelling in HC, some of the highest i see/read
about is midlevel with chars up to max level 62. That also means that they
will never use a +2 skills circlet since they always have level 67 req.
>> If you on the same board try to search the hardcore trading post then
>> you will see almost every trader there don't want those circlets.
>
> What I was trying to say above is that the total number of HC posts on all
> the trading boards I could think to check was so low that I couldn't find
> anything conclusive that way.
>
I use some of these forums for trading on HC, and i don't remember seeing
circlets going for no way near the prices on SC. Sometimes you might see a
circlet with the right mods including 15-20 res all go for a UM, but
without the res i doesn't go for near that much, since the buyer then will
need to socket it with um to get high resists.
>> To put
>> it mild, thet don't give a rbbits ass about fcr or frw. All and everyone
>> i've seen there want shako, it had +2 skills and both huge mana and life
>> pool which most if not all hcl players prefer over fcr or frw.
>
> FRW is underrated as a safety feature. But that aside, HC players do care
> a lot about resists, and a rare circlet with +2 skills can easily give
> much more resists than a Shako, intrinsically and/or by providing 2
> sockets.
Not that long ago i lost a rare tiara with that mod on, and yes my barb
really liked it, with that, increased speed and frw from boots i walked
faster than most others runs.
On if we talk about fcr i can give you a little example from one of my own
chars.
I'm working on a boner right now, so what i want is getting as much life
and mana i can and reach the last fcr breakpoint for necro's.
To reach all that the gear selection goes something like this.
Shako socketed with UM
Upped viper socketed with UM
+3 skills + 27 res all boneflame socketed with pdia
Hoto
Arachnid mesh
Tr gloves
marrowalk boots
one misc ring
one rare ring with 10% fcr and res
crafted caster amu.
This build will walk hell with max resists and have reached the last fcr
breakpoint.
And on top of that 10-15% of his life pool will come from shako and 15-20%
of his mana pool will come from shako too.
I could get one extra +1 skills if i used SOJ or BK ring in stead of a
fcr, and then get one of those +2 skills circlets and a mara's amu, but
that will only cost me a lot more and i will get lower life, if i use SOJ
my mana pool might be raised a little.
But what would that cost me?
I don't need shako with UM, that saves my MAL + 2 UM, which is rougly the
same as ist which then would be the price of that circlet. Then i need to
buy a mara with close to perfect res which will cost me vex+maybe 2 ists,
and then the SOJ which goes for ist+um to ist+mal.
So basicly to get a build with one more skill, the same mana and a lower
life would cost my vex+3ists+um or mal.
Do you think that is worth it?
--
Sonni
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